Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-06 Thread Bruno Rocha
This link: [shell] http://web2py.com/demo_admin/shell/index/demo_app2 does not work on demo_admin. So, I think it is better to hide it from demo_apps or popup a message "Disabled in demo mode" Some people could think it is a bug. (I am still trying to make the online shell to work as a try sandb

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-06 Thread Bruno Rocha
In addition, plugin_wiki or some other plugin can be included in to demo_apps to illustrate how plugin system works. 2010/11/7 Bruno Rocha > what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers? > > http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py > > This would be useful to

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-06 Thread Bruno Rocha
what about including some doctests to demo_apps controllers? http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/test/demo_app2/default.py This would be useful to illustrate the test functionality

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
I think it was mentioned a few times that orange is not very readable. I tend to agree with that, too. Anyone else had that problem? On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, mdipierro wrote: > I like white background and neutral colors (like grey buttons, black > header, etc.) and orange for links and edi

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-05 Thread Thadeus Burgess
My vote is for a light-ish theme. -- Thadeus On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta wrote: > > also it should be css => cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse > > trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it > > These issues

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-05 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, selecta wrote: > also it should be css => cursor: pointer; when i did not see my mouse > trurn to a hand i thought i could not click it These issues will hopefully be resolved in a consistent manner (not by patch one thing at a time, but everything at once) once t

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Thadeus Burgess
The corners are way too rounded. Looks good! -- Thadeus On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Christopher Steel wrote: > Nice work, looks great! > > I really like the flow that is starting to happen when resizing the > browser window. Makes me want to try it from my iphone... > > Chris > > > On Nov

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Anthony wrote: > Branko, > > Again, thanks for all your efforts improving the Admin interface. Your > points are well taken, and I don't think anyone expects that all of > this feedback will be incorporated immediately (or even ever). We've > already made some very

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM, mdipierro wrote: > Point taken. If you feel you have the time to work a better html, I > fully support that. Great. :) -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: http:/

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Richard Vézina
Since we are in this process. I would propose something, just a basic rule in design. I am not defending a point here. Having side by side edit and delete buttons is a bad design. 2 solutions : 1) Put a validation question on delete clic (ex.: would you really delete the file XX). 2) No validat

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
There are always new cool ideas, and I'm sure all of us have more than just a few of those. And I would LOVE to try all of them and see what works. But then again, we could do it until we all die and never finish. Why? Because there is no such thing as finished in graphic design. Someone says "Woul

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Martín Mulone
+1 I just remove the header background with firebug, look very good without the green. For the submit button you can also use how is in the new welcome input[type=submit], input[type=button], button { margin: 0px; /*width: 85px;*/ height: 22px; background: #eaeaea; color: #555; border: 1px solid

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Nov 4, 2010, at 6:07 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > This was my mistake since I had to appply Branko's patch manuallay. > Now fixed: > > http://www.web2py.com/demo_admin/default/site The scale of the buttons is good now. That's a lot better than it was. But expand the page in Mac Safari (cmd+) and

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-04 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Martin.Mulone wrote: > Thanks branko look very good. > > Some little things > > -less rounded in title headers? Maybe? > -the orange in "button edit" still killing my eyes? Maybe? > -"submit" button has no margins Submit button is an inline element, and it can

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-03 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Nov 3, 2010, at 8:21 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): This scales up (cmd +) rather badly under Safari, the buttons especially. > > http://web2py.com/demo_admin > > (also in trunk) > > This is the older one > > http://web2py.com/dem

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-03 Thread Bruno Rocha
in this page http://web2py.com/demo_admin/default/edit/demo_app1/controllers/default.py too much space used above the edit area, intead having 'save' and 'versions' below, this could be aside, or within a toggle/accordion space. space matters when editing files in admin. 2010/11/4 mdipierro > H

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-03 Thread Bruno Rocha
The Edit button is pointing to /peek 2010/11/4 Bruno Rocha > I think the accordion top bars are too much rounded, better to keep the > same rounded degree as buttons have. > > > > 2010/11/4 mdipierro > > Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): >> >> http://web2py.com/demo_

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-03 Thread Bruno Rocha
I think the accordion top bars are too much rounded, better to keep the same rounded degree as buttons have. 2010/11/4 mdipierro > Here is the latest work by Branko (with minor edits by me): > > http://web2py.com/demo_admin > > (also in trunk) > > This is the older one > > http://web2py.co

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-03 Thread Branko Vukelic
Sorry, I meant more in the way of how it works, rather than how you like it. Since my initial idea was to solve the problem of readability, rather than just cosmetic. Once the whole template is done, we can discuss other aspects, sure. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Anthony wrote: > OK, point

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
Bike shed![1] [1] http://bikeshed.com/ On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Anthony wrote: > I generally like orange as an accent color, but if we're going to go with > the main site color scheme, I'm not sure orange is the best complement to > the main green color. At least for me, I think the prob

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Anthony wrote: > I'm not sure I like the filenames inside buttons, especially such dark > buttons. It ends up looking very stark and heavy. It's not too bad > with just the 3 files in this mockup, but may be a bit much when > viewing a full page with dozens of file

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:31 PM, mdipierro wrote: > I am ok with this but not too may icons I guess iconds for folder, > edit, delete are ok. If we have more icons we may need tooltips to > explain them. As far as I can see, those are the only icons we need at this time. Maybe later I might do ic

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because > these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make > them smaller. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my bl

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
Fonts are 13px. I'm really against making icons any smaller because these are really nice to click on. But if you guys insist, I will make them smaller. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:02 PM, mdipierro wrote: > I like it but, I prefer lines to gradients. gradients look like dirt > on some browsers. > A

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Martín Mulone
For me this last mockup look really nice. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic > Yeah, I thought about it, and would want to keep exposes smaller. Icon > size is good. Smaller would be harder to click, which is not what I > want. > > Here's an alternative with filename looking like buttons. This should > ma

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
Yeah, I thought about it, and would want to keep exposes smaller. Icon size is good. Smaller would be harder to click, which is not what I want. Here's an alternative with filename looking like buttons. This should make it easier to click. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: >

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Thadeus Burgess
Smaller icons, or bigger text. -- Thadeus On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > > I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will > be > > unique for opened and closed folders. > > Ah, those do n

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be > unique for opened and closed folders. Ah, those do not correspond to file folders. It's the folder icon that is used for major application layers, and applications th

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Bruno Rocha
I just mean that the folder icon should be a closed folder, if this will be unique for opened and closed folders. if you could include the toggle functionality for changing it for an opened/closed folder icon when the folder opens/closes. I also prefer a lightweight gradient, like the gradient in

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Thadeus Burgess
This is much better. Not sure about the gradient on the apps listing however. Try some more subtle rounded corners? -- Thadeus On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors > that match the main site + orange as a

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
Sizes of things are something I'm working right now. I was more interested in feedback about the colors alone. :) What do you mean by 'static'? Did you mean admin vs other apps, or something else? On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Bruno Rocha wrote: > I Like it better than the orange/brown one > I

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Bruno Rocha
I Like it better than the orange/brown one I just think the folder icon must be a closed folder if static, or better if can toggle open/cloded, and fonts could be a little smaller. 2010/11/2 Branko Vukelic > What do you people think about this color scheme? Trying out colors > that match the

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM, mdipierro wrote: > I'd rather have one layout for admin than a choice. I think we need > this as simple as spossible. I agree. This is not a question of preference, but utility. If bold text fails to emphasize an important bit of information, but takes a lot of spa

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Richard Vézina
I just note that the font weight of the text is bolder then it was and It use that way more screen space. Richard On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina > wrote: > > I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Richard Vézina wrote: > I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary > color. The current goal is to implement this new more app-like interface for the admin. Mostly just cosmetic stuff that doesn't affect the underlying functionalit

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Richard Vézina
Maybe we could have a button to select old school layout??? I think minimalistic color schema is the way to go, like google = elementary color. The main difference is that the new interface seems to use more screen space to display essentially the same content. Nice initiative. Richard On Tue,

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:51 PM, mdipierro wrote: > Let's make a distinction between adding functionality (a more distant > goal) and reworking the css. So far (compared with the original > version) we just reworked the css. Ok. > Things we should like: > * background and rounded corner around th

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 8:41 AM, David Marko wrote: > I have the same opinion. Its too confusing, too many color > backgrounds, quite heavy ... Yes, I agree to this as well (despite the fact that I proposed it myself). I'll keep working on this, so I'm sure we'll reach a solution that most of you

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
worth a try to change it for greenish color scheme, following main site http://web2py.com/ brown -> darkGreen orange -> lightGreen black -> gray Keeping the same objects, buttons and boxes (I like buttons more than links) 2010/11/2 Thadeus Burgess > The version web2py has had for over a year.

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Thadeus Burgess
The version web2py has had for over a year. The new one is busy/confusing. I didn't know where to look at first glance. It feels Halloween-ish... I halfway expect a pumpkin somewhere on the page. There are too many "buttons" which are actually "hyperlinks". Sooo many buttons -- Thadeus

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Jonathan Lundell
On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:15 PM, Thadeus Burgess wrote: > I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the > same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. I'm not sure about the old one, but I don't think this one is the answer. I'm with Thadeus on the "everything

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
"Collapse" on the top menu, should change for 'Expand' when collapsed 2010/11/2 Bruno Rocha > I think this "Ubuntu Human' new Style is much better! well organized. I > would like to keep that! or maybe, have a dropdown or some config to choose > that as my admin theme. > > 2010/11/2 mdipierro >

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
I think this "Ubuntu Human' new Style is much better! well organized. I would like to keep that! or maybe, have a dropdown or some config to choose that as my admin theme. 2010/11/2 mdipierro > Thadeus, > > Why more busy? > > There are no more links/text that before but while before links were >

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
Is it hard to have a Dropdown to select a desired theme? 2010/11/2 Luis Díaz > As I think I prefer the old style > > -- > Díaz Luis > TSU Analisis de Sistemas > Universidad de Carabobo > > http://web2pyfacil.blogspot.com/ > Facultad de > Odontología

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Luis Díaz
As I think I prefer the old style -- Díaz Luis TSU Analisis de Sistemas Universidad de Carabobo http://web2pyfacil.blogspot.com/ Facultad de Odontología

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Thadeus Burgess
I like the old one better. This is too busy. Everything looks exactly the same. Leads to much confusion on where things I need are. -- Thadeus On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:12 PM, mdipierro wrote: > I can make this stable tomorrow if no objections. > > Massimo > > On Nov 1, 9:10 pm, "mr.freeze"

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
Massimo, So I've cloned the HG repo and I've done my magic on the files. Would the contents of ``hg diff`` be useful to you? Anyway, it's attached, so please tell me if that's what you need. Also, some binary assets (icons). It's not complete. I'm sure some sections could use more work. I'll do t

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > how to style the browser button. Does anyone have an idea? Failing I meant the 'Browse' button. -- Branko Vukelić bg.bra...@gmail.com stu...@brankovukelic.com Check out my blog: http://www.brankovukelic.com/ Check out my portfolio: htt

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro wrote: > It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner > and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class "button". Actually, most form controls on Ubuntu ARE rounded by default. :P Anyway, I've implemented some 60% of the

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
Oh, damn. My fingers faster than brain. Ok, I get it. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > Is this snippet: > > {{if a==request.application:}} > > used to differentiate between admin and non-admin app? Or maybe > between binary and source apps? > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 P

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
Is this snippet: {{if a==request.application:}} used to differentiate between admin and non-admin app? Or maybe between binary and source apps? On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Branko Vukelic wrote: > Ok, I'll deal with this pronto. > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro wrote: >> It wou

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
Ok, I'll deal with this pronto. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:41 PM, mdipierro wrote: > It would also be nice to have INPUT and TEXTAREA with rounded corner > and buttons (submit and file upload) look like the class "button". > > On Nov 1, 2:11 pm, Branko Vukelic wrote: >> I've done a quick mockup of

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
and, if web2py keeps the actual logo, this sticker http://www.web2py.com/examples/static/img/Stickers5.png can be used in the top/bottom of /admin 2010/11/1 Bruno Rocha > It remembers the Ubuntu "Human" style, while ubuntu is chaging for some > kind of "purple' theme, web2py can take "human" fo

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
It remembers the Ubuntu "Human" style, while ubuntu is chaging for some kind of "purple' theme, web2py can take "human" for admin, scaffold and etc 2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic > I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as > well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well. >

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
WOW! Great! may be "welcome" app could be changed in the same way! 2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic > I've done a quick mockup of the admin layout. Changed a few labels as > well, to, hopefully, enhance usability as well. > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Branko Vukelic > wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 1, 20

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Rocha
I Like it! much better than the old one, I agree that orange text is difficult to read, orange fonts are working great in brown background, but in white background brown fonts will work better. 2010/11/1 Branko Vukelic > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose wrote: > > I like it better than th

Re: [web2py] Re: new admin layout

2010-11-01 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Jose wrote: > I like it better than the last. > I made this change because it was hard to distinguish the orange > button: > > -- .button {background-color: #DD; padding: 2px 5px 2px 5px; line- > height: 25px;   -moz-border-radius: 3px;    -webkit-border-radius: