Think Different : Please Opensource WebObjects

2007-10-03 Thread Romain Piveteau
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App stopped running but not auto-recovered

2007-10-03 Thread Corin Lawson
Hi List, I'm having difficulties with Auto Recover (in JavaMonitor). (1) When I add a new instance it is added with Auto Recover turned on but doesn't automatically start (I've been waiting over 22 mins now). (2) When I kill an instance (ie `kill -KILL $pid`) JavaMonitor shows the instance

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Ian Joyner
I agree that the Java Client issue is sufficiently serious, and there is much pain out there. However, I don't think WO is to blame – I think it's Java and Swing to a large extent. As someone posted the other day, (http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=193593) there is a growing

Re: Please Opensource WebObjects

2007-10-03 Thread Ian Joyner
Did I miss something? Is .net open source? As for Stephane's comment "and IBM is everywhere with WebSphere, there's a lot of lobbying inside to kill WO" that has always been the case with IBM and now Microsoft lobbyists - the problem is that those technologies need a lot more people to make

Re: Webobject Dev question (getting sql string before issued to db)

2007-10-03 Thread jerry porter
Thanks, that sounds like another good option. --- Art Isbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:24 AM, jerry porter wrote: > > > Does anyone know how to get the "no kidding" sql string that will be > > issued to the database by > > EOF. > > > Implement > EOAdaptorChan

Re: Webobject Dev question (getting sql string before issued to db)

2007-10-03 Thread Art Isbell
On Oct 3, 2007, at 10:24 AM, jerry porter wrote: Does anyone know how to get the "no kidding" sql string that will be issued to the database by EOF. Implement EOAdaptorChannel.Delegate.adaptorChannelShouldEvaluateExpression() in an EOAdaptorChannel delegate. Send the EOSQLExpression o

Re: Webobject Dev question (getting sql string before issued to db)

2007-10-03 Thread jerry porter
Thanks for the tip, I will look into it. --- Guido Neitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03.10.2007, at 14:24, jerry porter wrote: > > > Does anyone know how to get the "no kidding" sql string that will > > be issued to the database by EOF. > > You can check whether ERXAdapterChannelDelegat

Re: Webobject Dev question (getting sql string before issued to db)

2007-10-03 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 03.10.2007, at 14:24, jerry porter wrote: Does anyone know how to get the "no kidding" sql string that will be issued to the database by EOF. You can check whether ERXAdapterChannelDelegate gives you an idea on how to do what you want. cug _

Re: Java Version or Eclipse issue?

2007-10-03 Thread Kieran Kelleher
Is there a different WebObjects version on build machine? Certain older versions of WO did not have that method defined for NSMutableArray On Oct 3, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Calven Eggert wrote: Hi All, I've built my WO app on my machine, Java 1.5, Eclipse Europa. No problems. I've checked o

Re: Java Version or Eclipse issue?

2007-10-03 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 03.10.2007, at 14:03, Calven Eggert wrote: I've checked out my source code on my Xserve Build machine and it won't compile. Same Eclipse version, same Java version. Same WO version? "contains" came in 5.3 if I remember that correctly. Try "containsObject" and it should work. cug

Webobject Dev question (getting sql string before issued to db)

2007-10-03 Thread jerry porter
Hello, Does anyone know how to get the "no kidding" sql string that will be issued to the database by EOF. What I would like to do is capture the statememt that is issued when turning on EOAdaptorDebugEnabled for later use and comparison. My intent is to toss the sql string in a debugging attri

Re: Java Version or Eclipse issue?

2007-10-03 Thread Ken Anderson
Use: containsObject() Ken On Oct 3, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Calven Eggert wrote: Hi All, I've built my WO app on my machine, Java 1.5, Eclipse Europa. No problems. I've checked out my source code on my Xserve Build machine and it won't compile. Same Eclipse version, same Java version. Er

Java Version or Eclipse issue?

2007-10-03 Thread Calven Eggert
Hi All, I've built my WO app on my machine, Java 1.5, Eclipse Europa. No problems. I've checked out my source code on my Xserve Build machine and it won't compile. Same Eclipse version, same Java version. Error msg: The method contains(String) is undefined for the type NSMutableArray Here is

Re: Please Opensource WebObjects

2007-10-03 Thread Alex Cone
Read Apple's Lips: Not Going To Happen. Period. If that means we have to lose you to .NET, then get going and stop posting. This topic has been discussed to death. There are some good reasons why it isn't going to happen and your posting the 10,000th post about it isn't going to change

Re: WO(Re)petition STOP!!

2007-10-03 Thread Alex Cone
AMEN BROTHER!! Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:25:52 -0400 From: Ken Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: WO(Re)petition STOP!! To: Christian Trotobas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OK - this needs to stop - I'm very close to stopping my subscription to this list, and I'm sure

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Jean Pierre Malrieu
Think Different : Please Opensource WebObjects Because, today, in France, it is almost impossible to sell any software based on proprietary tools to public institutions (education for example), when there are so many open source alternatives... Open source WO or we will have to stop using i

Re: WO(Re)petition STOP!!

2007-10-03 Thread Ken Anderson
OK - this needs to stop - I'm very close to stopping my subscription to this list, and I'm sure other people out there that help occasionally (or a lot) will stop subscribing as well. TAKE THIS TO TALK - OR BETTER YETJUST STOP! Ken On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Christian Trotobas wrote:

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Christian Trotobas
One more crucial point for some companies : as Andrus pointed, there have been no roadmap for years. The only feedback some companies had, was: tools are getting dropped one by one. Ok, everybody knows that eclipse/wolips is far better than PB and Co. But some huge companies had been explai

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Stephane Guyot
Hi Miguel, answer below Le 3 oct. 07 à 12:42, Miguel Arroz a écrit : Hi! I know people who develop on Windows today, no problems. I know people who develop on Linux, they way the only problem is that EOGenerator does not run, but a) EOGenerator is not even made by Apple, and 2) There

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! On 2007/10/03, at 12:13, Andrus Adamchik wrote: Was? It is still the best idea for the 90% of the ubiquitous stuff. Even in the WO world, the open source components make up a significant chunk of the stack: OS (sometimes), Tomcat (sometimes), Wonder, WOLips, Ant, pdf frameworks, AJAX f

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread David LeBer
On 3-Oct-07, at 7:22 AM, mike deavila wrote: I have used WO since 1996 (when it was NeXT). In the early days, Apple had one major release after another. Apple has not had a major release or upgrade with new features in years. If you look at what others... Folks, Please, We've all h

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread mike deavila
I have used WO since 1996 (when it was NeXT). In the early days, Apple had one major release after another. Apple has not had a major release or upgrade with new features in years. If you look at what others are doing, .NET and flex and the others... WO looks less attractive everyday. Sur

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Oct 3, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Miguel Arroz wrote: When you say "I know many developpers that wil be back on the WO side, if Apple opensource WO, but they are currently using uggly technology, just for eating." I think they just don't know any better. Not all open source projects are born eq

Re: soap/xml-rpc (please dont beat me)

2007-10-03 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Joeles; is your json-rpc code open source? could be interesting for me, too. The Cocoa component is in the "liblecocoastuff" library. It compiles as a ".a" which you then statically link into your Objective-C binary. cheers. ___ Andrew Lindesay technology : www.lindesay.co.nz busin

Re: soap/xml-rpc (please dont beat me)

2007-10-03 Thread Andrew Lindesay
Hello Joeles; you mentioned the WO wiki. would you mind to give me the url of the wiki? this could be helpfull for me :-) http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Home Look for "Web Services" in there. is your json-rpc code open source? could be interesting for me, t

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! I know people who develop on Windows today, no problems. I know people who develop on Linux, they way the only problem is that EOGenerator does not run, but a) EOGenerator is not even made by Apple, and 2) There is a Java replacement on Wonder, I think, although I'm not sure. Al

Re: WO(Re)petition

2007-10-03 Thread Stephane Guyot
Ian, David, Miguel ... I can't agree with you. My last client, is looking for WO replacement because of lack of windows and linux support. Ten years of WO development without roadmap, multi to mono platform support, Actually I'm just trying to convince my new client to use WO, we d