Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread John Huss
Tapestry has been through one or two complete rewrites, and the latest version 5.x is one of them - it's brand new. Tapestry is probably the web framework that is most like WO, but there are some important differences. It would not be trivial to convert an app I think. Their markup and use of co

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread John Huss
They just have what the java world has; which is JAX-RS and it's implementations like Jersey+Jackson and RestEasy. It's good I think, but completely generic, so something that is specific designed to handle entity objects is helpful. So yes ERRest could be useful. Or recreating something like it

Re: Deep ERRest knowledge? - I'm adding an ERXJSONPRestWriter

2012-07-13 Thread Jesse Tayler
heh, er,…um, no sir! but I'm trying to get there! I went and made myself a fork earlier - that was fun. everyone should have a wonder-fork. I'll get this stuff together and push my changes here: https://github.com/jtayler/wonder and just like the video from the WOWODC… I'm being the good c

Re: Deep ERRest knowledge? - I'm adding an ERXJSONPRestWriter

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Did you push your changes to your fork of Wonder on GitHub? > > indeed! > > overkill! > > and I HATE killing overs! > > but when you say "ERRest will look at the request" -- isn't that what I'm > trying to do? > > or I should say, how should I bet implement this callback query argument is

Re: Deep ERRest knowledge? - I'm adding an ERXJSONPRestWriter

2012-07-13 Thread Jesse Tayler
indeed! overkill! and I HATE killing overs! but when you say "ERRest will look at the request" -- isn't that what I'm trying to do? or I should say, how should I bet implement this callback query argument is present? aside from setting up a few keys for jsonp, at this time, I simply set th

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Maik Musall
Am 13.07.2012 um 23:57 schrieb John Huss: > So this thread has devolved quite a bit from it's original intent. One of my > original goals was to detail the areas where people could help with an effort > to provide an easy and painless migration to Cayenne. I haven't seen much > interest in h

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2012-07-13 à 19:39, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf a écrit : > > Am 13.07.2012 um 22:20 schrieb JR Ruggentaler: > >> Isn't Tapestry (http://tapestry.apache.org/) a WO like web application >> framework? Tapestry integrates with Cayenne >> (http://code.google.com/p/tapestry5-cayenne/). Maybe Tapestry

Re: Deep ERRest knowledge? - I'm adding an ERXJSONPRestWriter

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
That's overkill :-) It should be implemented like the window.name transport, e.g. ERRest will look at the request to see if a "callback" query argument was passed, and if yes, wrap it. > I'm adding an ERXJSONPRestWriter in Wonder, to support JSONP in ERRest > > so, like getting any ERRest forma

Re: Problem wo loop WOHyperlink

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Sharp
Hi Hugo, You could use a Component Action rather than a Direct Action in your WOHyperlink. .wod DeleteLink : WOHyperlink { action = deleteRecord; } The deleteRecord() method in your component class would need to: * call delete on your entryItem enterprise object * call saveChanges on

Re: ERXJSFlyOver ??

2012-07-13 Thread David Holt
Hi Ted, It's used by default in a D2W component if you are brave :-) ERDControllerButton The important thing to get right is the CSS. For example: http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2010/Nov/msg00444.html David On 2012-07-13, at 3:08 PM, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > ERXJSFlyOver

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 13.07.2012 um 22:20 schrieb JR Ruggentaler: > Isn't Tapestry (http://tapestry.apache.org/) a WO like web application > framework? Tapestry integrates with Cayenne > (http://code.google.com/p/tapestry5-cayenne/). Maybe Tapestry + Cayenne = > Open WO. I used to do that several years ago in one

Deep ERRest knowledge? - I'm adding an ERXJSONPRestWriter

2012-07-13 Thread Jesse Tayler
I'm adding an ERXJSONPRestWriter in Wonder, to support JSONP in ERRest so, like getting any ERRest format request, you can now also get jsonp: /ra/Person/306.jsonp so far, so good the spec. calls for an optional callback method name, requested on the URL /ra/Person/306.jsonp?callback=parseRes

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
Maybe start by asking "Does Cayenne already have anything like ERRest?" If not, they might be glad of getting it. On 2012-07-13, at 4:20 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Do you think having a version of ERRest on top of Cayenne would make sense? > Since ERRest make a lot of EOF calls, it might be a

Re: Problem wo loop WOHyperlink

2012-07-13 Thread Hugo Cambero
Thanks for answering. I learned something new. I'm going to change my code. Hugo On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > > On 2012-07-13, at 2:52 PM, Hugo Cambero wrote: > > > Hi Everybody > > > > I'm Hugo, I've been developing using WebObjects and Wonder Frameworks, > I'm newbie i

Re: Problem wo loop WOHyperlink

2012-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2012-07-13, at 2:52 PM, Hugo Cambero wrote: > Hi Everybody > > I'm Hugo, I've been developing using WebObjects and Wonder Frameworks, I'm > newbie in this topic. > > I have a problem and I hope you can help me. I'm developing a test > application, I want to display a list of ERXGenericReco

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2012-07-13 à 18:10, Daniel Beatty a écrit : > Greetings all, > I have to agree with Mike. There is a lot of good to be had in the Cayenne > project, and the discuss there of. For starters, it identifies the need in > our community for the stability of a good ORM that is well defined and >

Re: Problem wo loop WOHyperlink

2012-07-13 Thread Paul Hoadley
Hi Hugo, On 14/07/2012, at 7:22 AM, Hugo Cambero wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Do you think having a version of ERRest on top of Cayenne would make sense? Since ERRest make a lot of EOF calls, it might be a good example of trying to move something to Cayenne and to see what's missing. > So this thread has devolved quite a bit from it's original intent. One of my > origin

Re: Who uses ERDirectToRest ?

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
And your presentation at WOWODC was your first direct contribution! > Thanks Pascal for adding it to WIKI. My first indirect community contribution > :) > > Farrukh > > On 2012-07-14, at 1:59 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > >> >> Le 2012-07-13 à 17:21, Farrukh Ijaz a écrit : >> AFAIK, nobod

Re: Who uses ERDirectToRest ?

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Thanks Pascal for adding it to WIKI. My first indirect community contribution :) Farrukh On 2012-07-14, at 1:59 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 2012-07-13 à 17:21, Farrukh Ijaz a écrit : > >>> AFAIK, nobody use it, except maybe Anjo. Using the "routes" based API in >>> ERRest in quite easy,

Re: Who uses ERDirectToRest ?

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2012-07-13 à 17:21, Farrukh Ijaz a écrit : >> AFAIK, nobody use it, except maybe Anjo. Using the "routes" based API in >> ERRest in quite easy, but I do agree that being able to use D2W rules >> instead of ERXKeyFilter to decide what is going to be send or accepted would >> be cool. > > On

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread JR Ruggentaler
>From the WebObjects Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebObjects Apache Tapestry has a design and philosophy similar to that of WebObjects.[27] Tapestry is frequently combined with Apa

Re: Adaptor problem with SSL on Ubuntu

2012-07-13 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Klaus, That is great. I am kind of stuck with CentOS. I am still having to follow up on the little SELinux part to enable it to share its web site to the outside world. Apparently, the little line on the bottom of the wocommunity instructions does not get job done. It works from l

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings Ramsey, You have highlighted why this makes it the compiler guy's dream job. Take a decent size nightmare for the the subject, pile on a deadline, and add on mediocre salary to give us either a government rice bowl and genius grinder. Oops. Sorry, those have been my dreams lately.

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Daniel Beatty
Greetings all, I have to agree with Mike. There is a lot of good to be had in the Cayenne project, and the discuss there of. For starters, it identifies the need in our community for the stability of a good ORM that is well defined and stable, connected to a good web object generating framewor

ERXJSFlyOver ??

2012-07-13 Thread Theodore Petrosky
ERXJSFlyOver Is there an example of this anywhere. I stumbled on it whilst looking over Wonder. Seems interesting but I don't understand it. Ted ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobj

Re: ERPatcher Framework Proposal

2012-07-13 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hey there, On 14/07/2012, at 6:22 AM, Henrique Prange wrote: > Hi everybody, > > The "Migrating to EOF to Cayenne" thread touched an import matter: how may we > change WebObjects behavior that cannot be modified through OO constructs > without violating the Apple's license? I've been reading

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread John Huss
So this thread has devolved quite a bit from it's original intent. One of my original goals was to detail the areas where people could help with an effort to provide an easy and painless migration to Cayenne. I haven't seen much interest in helping thus far. So if you are interested, please spea

Re: ant woes. The framework name 'WOOgnl' does not exist.

2012-07-13 Thread Jesse Tayler
Good thinking Pascal! I had just gotten onto that with the help of Vinny Luc, and somehow got the frameworks pointing to the right places in wolips.properties. I seem to be back building again! On Jul 13, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > What is the value of "wo.local.frameworks" i

Re: Help... Eclipse, new install with wonder integration... ERExtensions have not been initialized?

2012-07-13 Thread Louis Demers
On 2012-07-13, at 5:03 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > FYI, I also have this problem (this is why I told James to enable bundles), > even if my project names and paths don't have a hyphen or a space in it. would that be "Generate Bundles" instead of "Enable Bundles" in wolips 3.7 (WOlips preference

Re: Who uses ERDirectToRest ?

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
> AFAIK, nobody use it, except maybe Anjo. Using the "routes" based API in > ERRest in quite easy, but I do agree that being able to use D2W rules instead > of ERXKeyFilter to decide what is going to be send or accepted would be cool. One can use following methods in the Route Controller class.

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2012-07-13, at 1:41 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote: > > On 2012-07-13, at 11:11 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >>> Is rewriting EOF and webobjects even a possibility? If yes, what about an >>> outline of what is required to undertake this magnitude of project. >> >> >> Yes, it is possible. It was writ

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Henrique Gomes
On Jul 13, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote: > > You can do go client, but then you have to build a client for every platform > you support. That's not trivial. > > Deploying to client platforms is quite a bit different from deploying to a > server under your control too. Instead of hav

Re: Help... Eclipse, new install with wonder integration... ERExtensions have not been initialized?

2012-07-13 Thread Ted Archibald
When I had this type of problem a while back, the root cause was the name of the project for me. It was either a space and/or a period. Not having bundleless builds drove me nuts. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > FYI, I also have this problem (this is why I told James to

Re: Help... Eclipse, new install with wonder integration... ERExtensions have not been initialized?

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
FYI, I also have this problem (this is why I told James to enable bundles), even if my project names and paths don't have a hyphen or a space in it. > What's your application/project named? > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM, James Cicenia wrote: > Thank you for replying. The secret to get it

Re: Adaptor problem with SSL on Ubuntu

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 2012-07-13 à 14:36, Klaus Berkling a écrit : > > On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > >> Next up, debugging an apache module... > > So I'm setting up an Ubuntu development environment to debug the adaptor > (whoo hoo). > > Kieran, I'm going to need that C book. :-) > > S

Re: ant woes. The framework name 'WOOgnl' does not exist.

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
What is the value of "wo.local.frameworks" in /Users/jtayler/Library/Application Support/WOLips/wolips.properties ? Does the path of the value of "wo.local.frameworks" have the Wonder frameworks in it? > > I'm still seem to be unable to build using Ant, I can run my app just fine, > but I consi

Re: Who uses ERDirectToRest ?

2012-07-13 Thread Pascal Robert
AFAIK, nobody use it, except maybe Anjo. Using the "routes" based API in ERRest in quite easy, but I do agree that being able to use D2W rules instead of ERXKeyFilter to decide what is going to be send or accepted would be cool. > I've just started to use REST with our business logic. > > I wa

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
On 2012-07-13, at 11:11 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >> Is rewriting EOF and webobjects even a possibility? If yes, what about an >> outline of what is required to undertake this magnitude of project. > > > Yes, it is possible. It was written once, it can be written again. I don't > know if it is

Re: ERRest Testing

2012-07-13 Thread Henrique Prange
Hi Kieran, Thanks. I've used the soapUI to explore WebServices APIs in the past, but I had no idea they have this option for REST testing. Cheers, Henrique On 12/07/2012, at 13:29, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > I guess the URL would be useful :-) > > http://soapui.org/REST-Testing/rest-functional

ERPatcher Framework Proposal

2012-07-13 Thread Henrique Prange
Hi everybody, The "Migrating to EOF to Cayenne" thread touched an import matter: how may we change WebObjects behavior that cannot be modified through OO constructs without violating the Apple's license? I'm looking into solutions for this problem since it's an essential requirement for WOInje

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread JR Ruggentaler
Isn't Tapestry (http://tapestry.apache.org/) a WO like web application framework? Tapestry integrates with Cayenne (http://code.google.com/p/tapestry5-cayenne/). Maybe Tapestry + Cayenne = Open WO. JR On 7/13/12 2:41 PM, "Theodore Petrosky" wrote: > >> >> The best way to predict the future is

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2012-07-13, at 12:41 PM, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > >> >> The best way to predict the future is to create it. Is >> anyone cranking out a client interface faster and more >> reliably than D2W yet? I'm all ears over here :-) > > We have the best of all worlds, one group is pursuing AOP, anoth

Re: Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On Jul 13, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Theodore Petrosky wrote: > >> >> The best way to predict the future is to create it. Is >> anyone cranking out a client interface faster and more >> reliably than D2W yet? I'm all ears over here :-) > > We have the best of all worlds, one group is pursuing AOP, a

Re: ant woes. The framework name 'WOOgnl' does not exist.

2012-07-13 Thread Jesse Tayler
I'm still seem to be unable to build using Ant, I can run my app just fine, but I consistently get a framework missing error. I'll put the output below, can anyone see what's going on with my build? Jesses-MacBook-Pro:WOMan jtayler$ ant -lib woproject.jar -verbose build Apache Ant(TM) versi

Migrating from EOF to ????

2012-07-13 Thread Theodore Petrosky
> > The best way to predict the future is to create it. Is > anyone cranking out a client interface faster and more > reliably than D2W yet?  I'm all ears over here :-) We have the best of all worlds, one group is pursuing AOP, another is pursuing Cayenne, and another is pursuing rewriting EOF

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
Hi Farrukh, Thanks for the summary! Chuck On 2012-07-13, at 5:06 AM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote: > Sorry for late response, just landed last night. > > The idea is very simple to understand and implement. E.g. I've a third party > library which has a method named with following signature: > > Stri

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2012-07-13, at 2:54 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: > > On Jul 12, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >>> >>> You want to know the biggest unfixable problem with WO for me? WO apps >>> can't be deployed on any mobile platform. That really sucks. >> >> For that, you need to change the paradi

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:54 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote: > > On Jul 12, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > >>> >>> You want to know the biggest unfixable problem with WO for me? WO apps >>> can't be deployed on any mobile platform. That really sucks. >> >> For that, you need to change the para

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Mike Schrag
don't make decisions based on anecdotal evidence ms On Jul 13, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Karl wrote: > Hi, > > Making EOF multi-threaded is really not that desirable nor is it necessary. > EOF gets most of its speed and efficiency through its 'cut through' > single-threaded design at the Access lay

Re: Adaptor problem with SSL on Ubuntu

2012-07-13 Thread Klaus Berkling
On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Klaus Berkling wrote: > Next up, debugging an apache module... So I'm setting up an Ubuntu development environment to debug the adaptor (whoo hoo). Kieran, I'm going to need that C book. :-) Should I use the integration or master branch? Is someone doing work on

Re: Problem EOEditingContext

2012-07-13 Thread Theodore Petrosky
> -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:52:40 -0700 > From: Ramsey Gurley > To: Maik Musall > Cc: WebObjects Development > Subject: Re: Problem EOEditingContext > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:23 AM,

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Hugi Thordarson
>> Yes, the JPA is a spec, I just think it is a bad spec :). The Criteria API >> alone made me want to grab my head by the eyesockets and remove it from my >> torso. > > That's pretty big statement, I might have agreed with you if I wasn't aware > of what's JPA is all about. Here is the specifi

Re: Problem EOEditingContext

2012-07-13 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:23 AM, Maik Musall wrote: > > Am 13.07.2012 um 01:20 schrieb Ramsey Gurley: > >> >> On Jul 12, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Maik Musall wrote: >> >>> >>> Am 12.07.2012 um 23:58 schrieb Louis Demers: User newUser = (User)EOUtilities.createAndInsertInstance(ec, User.ENTIT

Helmuts WOWODC slides are online

2012-07-13 Thread Helmut Tschemernjak
my WOWODC presentation is available at: www.helios.de/heliosapp/Helmuts-WOWODC-2012-v5.pdf I posted also a reference on Google+ under Helmut Tschemernjak Have a good weekend. Helmut ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
> Yes, the JPA is a spec, I just think it is a bad spec :). The Criteria API > alone made me want to grab my head by the eyesockets and remove it from my > torso. That's pretty big statement, I might have agreed with you if I wasn't aware of what's JPA is all about. Here is the specification de

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Karl
It remains so mystifying to me how the Java community produces such absolute garbage as JPA and their other specs. How many versions of EJB have we been through? 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 2.x, 3.xand how consistent are they (hint: not one bit). I'll happily, boringly stick with EOF which seems to

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Karl
Hi, Making EOF multi-threaded is really not that desirable nor is it necessary. EOF gets most of its speed and efficiency through its 'cut through' single-threaded design at the Access layer. About 4 years ago, Apple tested an internal build of WO/EOF that was fully multi-threaded. It was ab

Re: WOWODC-2012 Git presentations

2012-07-13 Thread WebObjects TORAcom
Thanks On 13/07/2012, at 06:21, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > FYI, > > If you are new to git. > > The first 3 parts of the 5-part series derived from the "Understanding & > Using Git" WOWODC2012 presentation is available in this iTunes feed: > >http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/webobjects

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Hugi Thordarson
>> But yes, I've used Cayenne on a couple of projects. As you know it feels a >> *lot* like EOF and was by far the nicest ORM I could legally use at my >> previous pure java workplace. (protip: never go anywhere near JPA, it *will* >> rape your dog and kill your grandmother.) Apart from the tech

Re: Help... Eclipse, new install with wonder integration... ERExtensions have not been initialized?

2012-07-13 Thread Ted Archibald
What's your application/project named? On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:00 AM, James Cicenia wrote: > Thank you for replying. The secret to get it to work was offered by Pascal > (bless his heart). I had to "Enable Bundles" in the Eclipse preferences. > This magically made everything work. > > Thank go

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Sorry for late response, just landed last night. The idea is very simple to understand and implement. E.g. I've a third party library which has a method named with following signature: String encode(String someString) { // some crappy encoding performed on someString and saved as encoded

Who uses ERDirectToRest ?

2012-07-13 Thread Schoenenberger Dominique
I've just started to use REST with our business logic. I wanted to use ERDirectToRest because it seems very interesting to quickly delivery access to the business logic but there are a lot of warning to NOT use it: - In the read me: "This framework uses the old and deprecated REST APIs, avoi

Re: Help... Eclipse, new install with wonder integration... ERExtensions have not been initialized?

2012-07-13 Thread James Cicenia
Thank you for replying. The secret to get it to work was offered by Pascal (bless his heart). I had to "Enable Bundles" in the Eclipse preferences. This magically made everything work. Thank goodness for this list as a solo developer it has truly become my lifeline, teacher and forward looking inf

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Just a fix, I mean JPA is not a product but a specification :) Farrukh On 2012-07-13, at 3:41 PM, Farrukh Ijaz wrote: > > On 2012-07-12, at 2:01 PM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: > I think Hugi also use it. >>> >>> Is that a point for or against it? :-P >> >> >> >> But yes, I've used Cay

Re: Help... Eclipse, new install with wonder integration... ERExtensions have not been initialized?

2012-07-13 Thread Ralf Schuchardt
Hi James, there are at least two possible reasons for this exception: You may call ERXExtension methods before the frameworks are completely loaded, e.g. in static initializers. But if this project did run before, then it is probably not the case here. The other reason may be an unfortunate ch

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
On 2012-07-12, at 6:32 PM, arosenzw...@clinworx.com wrote: > Hi WOrriors, > > I still question why we are fighting so hard for Object-relational mapping. > If we are contemplating doing work, shouldn't we consider going straight for > object databases? Take out the transcription layer. Let's

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
On 2012-07-12, at 2:01 PM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: >>> I think Hugi also use it. >> >> Is that a point for or against it? :-P > > > > But yes, I've used Cayenne on a couple of projects. As you know it feels a > *lot* like EOF and was by far the nicest ORM I could legally use at my > previo

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Weaving is different than Dynamic join point interception. Farrukh On 2012-07-11, at 10:40 PM, John Huss wrote: > My understanding is that AOP requires "weaving" or rewriting of the bytecode. > If so, this is not allowed by the license - it prohibits modification. But > people may not care

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Farrukh Ijaz
Sorry for late response, just landed last night. The idea is very simple to understand and implement. E.g. I've a third party library which has a method named with following signature: String encode(String someString) { // some crappy encoding performed on someString and saved as encoded

Re: WOWODC-2012 Git presentations

2012-07-13 Thread Ted Archibald
Yay! On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote: > FYI, > > If you are new to git. > > The first 3 parts of the 5-part series derived from the "Understanding & > Using Git" WOWODC2012 presentation is available in this iTunes feed: > > http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/webobje

WOWODC-2012 Git presentations

2012-07-13 Thread Kieran Kelleher
FYI, If you are new to git. The first 3 parts of the 5-part series derived from the "Understanding & Using Git" WOWODC2012 presentation is available in this iTunes feed: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/webobjects-podcasts/id270165303 or at the bottom of this web page: http://ww

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Hugi Thordarson
I think Hugi also use it. >>> >>> Is that a point for or against it? :-P >> >> > > Ah ha! So you ARE still reading the list! :-) Good to see you around! Haha, thanks :). Oddly enough, I always read the lists religiously, even when I wasn't using WO that much. - hugi ___

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Hugi Thordarson
I believe the takeaway here is that Cayenne is indeed under active development, which is nice :). - hugi On 12.7.2012, at 17:07, John Huss wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Hugi Thordarson wrote: > >> Cayenne is still missing a lot of functionality when compared to > >> EOF/Wonder an

Re: Anyone like to transcripti WOWODC podcasts via Mechanical Turk?

2012-07-13 Thread Ted Archibald
You can use MTurk by using crowdflower.com outside the US. I'm in Canada and I use WO app that submits jobs and pulls data from MTurk via crowdflower. I highly suggest it. It makes MTurk far easier to use as well. That being said, wouldn't it be easier just to shoot the files to a transcription

Re: Problem EOEditingContext

2012-07-13 Thread Cheong Hee (Gmail)
Once upon a time, there is a default constructor class generated in this way: public User(EOEditingContext context, EOClassDescription classDesc, EOGlobalID gid) { super(context, classDesc, gid); } Not sure why it is removed after in wolips. Is this something similar to your ne

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread Henrique Gomes
On Jul 12, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: >> >> You want to know the biggest unfixable problem with WO for me? WO apps can't >> be deployed on any mobile platform. That really sucks. > > For that, you need to change the paradigm from interface vending servers to > servers that vend data

Re: Problem EOEditingContext

2012-07-13 Thread Maik Musall
Am 13.07.2012 um 01:20 schrieb Ramsey Gurley: > > On Jul 12, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Maik Musall wrote: > >> >> Am 12.07.2012 um 23:58 schrieb Louis Demers: >>> User newUser = (User)EOUtilities.createAndInsertInstance(ec, >>> User.ENTITY_NAME) ; >> >> Much too wordy for my taste, and needs a cast

Re: Anyone like to transcripti WOWODC podcasts via Mechanical Turk?

2012-07-13 Thread Amy Worrall
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Johan Henselmans wrote: > Some people reported having transcripts done this way. Unfortunately, I am > not allowed to use this tool, as I am not a citizen of the US of A. I've used it (from Britain) via those companies that offer a service where they submit the a

Re: Migrating from EOF to Cayenne

2012-07-13 Thread ISHIMOTO Ken
Like it On 2012/07/11, at 20:12, Farrukh Ijaz wrote: > Hi, > > In past I've used AOP to address issues of closed source. This I believe if > carefully used can help convert the EOF from single to multi threaded and/or > solve other bottleneck problems. Having said this doesn't mean I'm against

Anyone like to transcripti WOWODC podcasts via Mechanical Turk?

2012-07-13 Thread Johan Henselmans
Last week, I have done some experiments with transcribing podcasts, as it seemed a good idea to make information in the podcasts more accessible. (I do not like scrolling through podcasts of an hour of which I can read the transcript in 15 minutes). I have tried Mac Speech Scribe with a prese