Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Chuck Hill
I reckon it is a touchy issue. The legal folks might make allowances for things like archive.org. I would not want this on any server that I was responsible for unless I had written permission. I'd be happy to use it from your sever if you want to host it. ;-) Yours in paranoia, Chuck

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 03/02/2010, at 8:53 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: >> Isn't copying Apple's, er, copyrighted material a bad idea? It seems like >> the sort of thing to piss them off. Pissed off lawyers... never a good >> thing. Trust me on that. > yes. > definitely. > do not copy it. > whatever you do. > that is

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Schrag
don't count on it On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Johnny Miller wrote: > Do you think Apple would be willing to give you a link on the WebObjects home > page: http://developer.apple.com/tools/webobjects/? > > Nice work Pascal thank you for all your efforts. > > Johnny > > > > > On Feb 2, 2010,

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Johnny Miller
Do you think Apple would be willing to give you a link on the WebObjects home page: http://developer.apple.com/tools/webobjects/? Nice work Pascal thank you for all your efforts. Johnny On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > I looked at the robots.txt file on developer.apple.co

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Pascal Robert
I looked at the robots.txt file on developer.apple.com and I don't see any rules that stop bots to fetch anything in /legacy. And I do see some stuff from the 5.4.2 docs in a Google search, but most of the time, 3.x and 4.5.x links shows up before the 5.3/5.4 docs. It's all crap. Hi!

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Schrag
> Isn't copying Apple's, er, copyrighted material a bad idea? It seems like > the sort of thing to piss them off. Pissed off lawyers... never a good > thing. Trust me on that. yes. definitely. do not copy it. whatever you do. that is all. cough. ms ___

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Chuck Hill
Isn't copying Apple's, er, copyrighted material a bad idea? It seems like the sort of thing to piss them off. Pissed off lawyers... never a good thing. Trust me on that. On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: don't copy wonder's -- it changes fairly often and seems to have dec

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Schrag
don't copy wonder's -- it changes fairly often and seems to have decent coverage on google. ms On Feb 2, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 10-02-02 à 15:52, Mike Schrag a écrit : > > Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it > was good old ht:

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Ok, so I will use good old WebDevil to download the docs :-) Hi! YES! 5.3 and 5.4. Since it moved to legacy, Google does not index it any more... maybe they (apple) have some robots.txt file that causes that. Hope they release the new version soon... o :) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2010

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! YES! 5.3 and 5.4. Since it moved to legacy, Google does not index it any more... maybe they (apple) have some robots.txt file that causes that. Hope they release the new version soon... o :) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2010/02/02, at 20:52, Mike Schrag wrote: Does anyone knows a go

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-02-02 à 15:52, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Mike Schrag
>>> Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was >>> good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a >>> better alternative, I'm all ears. >> just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? > > Tried it, but far f

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-02-02 à 13:21, Amedeo Mantica a écrit : why not spotlight? ( if your webserver is on osx ) Spotlight Server = pure crap. And I don't think it will index non local documents... On 02/feb/2010, at 19.04, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-01 à 23:06, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Amedeo Mantica
why not spotlight? ( if your webserver is on osx ) On 02/feb/2010, at 19.04, Pascal Robert wrote: > > Le 10-02-01 à 23:06, Mike Schrag a écrit : > >>> Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was >>> good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebo

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-02-01 à 23:06, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-02 Thread Amedeo Mantica
nice job :) On 01/feb/2010, at 13.35, Pascal Robert wrote: > Hello everyone, > > wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one > of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much > cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. > > More stu

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Mike Schrag
> Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was > good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a > better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? ms

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Chuck Hill
On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Haris Pobric wrote: As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which particular de

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Pascal Robert
BTW, Gordon Belray (a fellow Canuck) submitted a cool idea for the front page : http://www.fineart.utoronto.ca/wo/ The gears would be links to "internal" and external pages, so it would be a startup page for everyone. I'm also looking at adding a search box on the Web site, that s

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Chuck Hill
On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:53 PM, David Holt wrote: On 1-Feb-10, at 4:58 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-01 à 19:43, Guido Neitzer a écrit : The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the "Why WO?" page. It should say "Because it rocks!

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-02-01 à 20:27, Haris Pobric a écrit : As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which particular develo

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread David Holt
On 1-Feb-10, at 4:58 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-01 à 19:43, Guido Neitzer a écrit : The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the "Why WO?" page. It should say "Because it rocks!". Not mention any other stuff ... This whole p

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 02/02/2010, at 12:27 PM, Haris Pobric wrote: > As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in > actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a > great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which > particular

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Haris Pobric
As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which particular development environment one happens to be coming fr

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 02/02/2010, at 12:03 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: > Oh, my ... > > That's why my first idea was to say "Chunk, please take a look" ;-) +1 (and for using quoted prose such as, "So says Chunk" :) lol > Seriously, I can invest some time tonight, take a closer look from a > different angle and we c

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Guido Neitzer
Oh, my ... That's why my first idea was to say "Chunk, please take a look" ;-) Seriously, I can invest some time tonight, take a closer look from a different angle and we can discuss that. cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: > It think the facts are good, but you are right: fr

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Chuck Hill
It think the facts are good, but you are right: from a sales point of view it looks at it from the wrong direction. As a quick example, But it’s in Java! Yes, it’s Java, but it’s not J2EE. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. WebObjects uses Java for its b

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Pascal Robert
Le 10-02-01 à 19:43, Guido Neitzer a écrit : The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the "Why WO?" page. It should say "Because it rocks!". Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Guido Neitzer
I would, but ... I'm not a native english speaker and it shows. It shows quite often especially when I write something. I'll come up with something and will send it to a group for discussion, though. cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: > On 02/02/2010, at 11:43 AM, Guido Neitz

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Lachlan Deck
On 02/02/2010, at 11:43 AM, Guido Neitzer wrote: > The design is pretty nice! I like it. > > But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the "Why WO?" > page. It should say "Because it rocks!". Not mention any other stuff ... This > whole page is so negative. I'd say that nee

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Guido Neitzer
The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the "Why WO?" page. It should say "Because it rocks!". Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 A

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread David Holt
It is really great to see the community support. Well done, everyone! David On 1-Feb-10, at 2:40 PM, Philippe Rabier wrote: Merci Pascal. But I want to add: a big round of applause for Pascal who makes a tremendous job for the WOCommunity. Everybody knows that the community would be harml

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Pascal Robert
Those videos were there for a long time, but only in the podcasts feed. The plan is to allow people to upload podcasts (or at least the URL to a podcast) themselves so that people don't have to wait after me :-) Wow - Great site! I never knew there existed all those videos. Very timely

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread James Cicenia
Wow - Great site! I never knew there existed all those videos. Very timely as I learn wonder and ajax. Thanks On Feb 1, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Hello everyone, > > wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one > of our community member, Sophiaco

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Chuck Hill
Bravo to both of them. This has been a big improvement to the site. Thank you! On Feb 1, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Philippe Rabier wrote: Merci Pascal. But I want to add: a big round of applause for Pascal who makes a tremendous job for the WOCommunity. Everybody knows that the community would

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Philippe Rabier
Merci Pascal. But I want to add: a big round of applause for Pascal who makes a tremendous job for the WOCommunity. Everybody knows that the community would be harmless without the contributors to Wonder, the mailing list, ... But today is the Pascal day ;-) Philippe PS: Aline, our graphic des

Re: New look for wocommunity.org

2010-02-01 Thread Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists
Nice Job! With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, Chief Technology Officer, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. On 2010-02-01, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: > Hello everyone, > > wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one > of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiac