Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Acknowledged, and think we are in same page. As posted 'OWM "triggers" (which OWM calls "alerts")'. Thus, it's "triggers", and not alerts as DarkSky. Still, better than complete removal of weather flag as PWS owner can adjust to be notified at heart's contempt. X -- You received this

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Hello, On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 9:44:26 PM UTC-4, Xant wrote: > > > Ok... so, what about OWM "triggers" (which OWM calls "alerts"), and its > also available to all services - free, included. > Be careful! Pat was correct when he said OWM does not support alerts. The alerts in OWM are not

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Thinking forward, it can be more than an "replacement" to DarkSky alerts... it can be "an evolution"! The owner of PWS anywhere in the World already knows the weather pattern more than anybody else... so, with OWM triggers, one would make their weather conditions to send alerts, not depending

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Ok... so, what about OWM "triggers" (which OWM calls "alerts"), and its also available to all services - free, included. We invite you to try our new product - the weather alerts which are based on our meteorological data. Now you can use simple syntax and a few API methods to create triggers

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Alerts come from DarkSky's internal AI aggregation with direct links to the source. This works for multiple countries and not just weather.gov. OWM does not have this type of setup or service. So alerts will be removed in Belchertown skin v1.2 On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 3:39:49 PM UTC-4,

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Pat Just curious how Alerts works, and how it may depend on DarkSky. Got alert today regarding Wind Advisory in effect until 10 April 2020 00:00 . Which has

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Plan approved :) :) But make sure you get some sleep too (and your good wife of course!) Colin On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, 03:52 G Hammer, wrote: > Sounds like a plan. > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 10:31 AM Pat wrote: > >> Think I'll release 1.1 as it stands right now as soon as I can, then work >> on

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Sounds like a plan. On Wed, Apr 8, 2020, 10:31 AM Pat wrote: > Think I'll release 1.1 as it stands right now as soon as I can, then work > on OWM as part of the update for 1.2 and retire DarkSky in the skin for 1.2. > > > On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 10:01:21 PM UTC-4, Xant wrote: >> >> >>

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Think I'll release 1.1 as it stands right now as soon as I can, then work on OWM as part of the update for 1.2 and retire DarkSky in the skin for 1.2. On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 10:01:21 PM UTC-4, Xant wrote: > > > Colin > > I honor that! And, indeed, brought a smile in my face! (we need that

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Colin I honor that! And, indeed, brought a smile in my face! (we need that good humor spirit nowadays...) Either one is fine... BTW, Pat can not have a good night sleep he has a newborn... : X On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 9:41:40 PM UTC-4, Colin Larsen wrote: > > If there is a

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

If there is a vote going I like OWM :) Good luck with that sleep thing pat! Cheers Colin On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 13:32, G Hammer wrote: > 3AM is a great time to introduce them to coding  > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 9:30 PM Pat wrote: > >> Right. OWM is more of a drop in replacement so I'm leaning

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

3AM is a great time to introduce them to coding  On Tue, Apr 7, 2020, 9:30 PM Pat wrote: > Right. OWM is more of a drop in replacement so I'm leaning that way. > > Still, this all requires me to get some spare time and a full night's > sleep. Newborns aren't very cooperative with their parents

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Right. OWM is more of a drop in replacement so I'm leaning that way. Still, this all requires me to get some spare time and a full night's sleep. Newborns aren't very cooperative with their parents hobbies :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

For me, I have API keys that I keep track of, acquire when needed. It's a one off thing. OWM can use your coordinates which may produce better results for some. For example, I've lived where you picked a distant city for a forecast, unless you knew the local airport code. They seem to have a 7

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

I understand your point and that's why I keep flip flipping. I like the idea of no API key to maintain. OWM is more of a drop in replacement which makes migrating the skin a bit easier. YR would require unit conversions, xml parsing (small rewrite since I'm parsing json today) and yr

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Sure OWM still a respectful service. I will not "kick the dead body" further, but it puzzles me why not YR. Not for the many reasons posted above, but as YR offers much more real data at no restrictions, API, or plans - and consistent, no charge now or ever. It could be an opportunity to built

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

This is probably the way to go. Looks like their free plan will match a lot of what the skin uses. Sadly, weather alerts will be no-more with the skin. On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 2:31:38 AM UTC-4, Tadej Javornik wrote: > > There seems to be something written to migrate from darksky to owm.

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

There seems to be something written to migrate from darksky to owm. Here is the link https://openweathermap.org/darksky-openweather#match -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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units aren’t an issue, then in the infamous words of Alfred E. Neuman, > what, me worry? > > > > > > *From:* weewx...@googlegroups.com > *On Behalf Of *steeple ian > *Sent:* Friday, April 3, 2020 11:37 AM > *To:* weewx...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [weewx-

RE: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

If units aren’t an issue, then in the infamous words of Alfred E. Neuman, what, me worry? From: weewx-user@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of steeple ian Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 11:37 AM To: weewx-user@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & Dar

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Correction: YR.no 48hrs meteogram. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "weewx-user" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to weewx-user+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Dark Sky API William: "That's true if one already has a DarkSky API key" U... apologies as I missed this important "detail", as to say let's go till end-of-2021. Just trying to give all some peace of mind and let the industry to settle. But it is true. DarkSky cutting the cord... let's

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Gary, Ok have a look here: - https://claydonsweather.org.uk The base units are set in weewx.conf to METRICWX. The json data from WU is coming as US, DarkSky as METRIC. The skin is displaying U.K. units which is Metric with mph. Click on the F button too right and watch what happens to the units

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

It's more work upfront but the skin can convert units. If weather alerts are gone (which so far looks like they will be when DarkSky goes away), then I am leaning back to yr.no. Another appeal for yr.no in my reading is that for yr.no is no API key is needed, no developer account - "it just

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Metric is not used in the US would be the problem. On Fri, Apr 3, 2020, 10:37 AM steeple ian wrote: > Quote from yr.no website: - > > *"A new Yr API is on the way!* > > We are working on a new and modern API, that we plan to release some time > in the winter 2019. Make sure you visit this site

Re: [weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Pat writes: > The pro is that they don't seem at risk of being purchased and going away. > The con is it may not be a good fit for how the skin is being used. Two thoughts: The situation seems ripe for someone, outside the weewx project, to make an API that fronts for all national APIs,

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Quote from yr.no website: - *"A new Yr API is on the way!* We are working on a new and modern API, that we plan to release some time in the winter 2019. Make sure you visit this site to keep posted!" I am not sure why metric only is so much of a problem anyway, but maybe that will be fixed in

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Actually looks like OWM doesn't provide weather alerts in the same fashion as DarkSky. Instead you have to create a trigger, then poll that trigger for changes. It's not end-user friendly as it is at DarkSky. So I may have to deprecate weather alerts and only offer current conditions and

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

yr.no isn't commercially owned, so the theory is they won't get bought out or go away. They're owned by the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation and the Norwegian Meteorological Institute. That said, it's only in metric, does not have weather alerts and is in XML format only. The pro is that

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

I'd say OWM, simply because I see no way to get anything except metric/C from yr.no On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 9:11:43 PM UTC-4, Pat wrote: > > I'm sure the Belchertown skin could benefit from the forecasts plugin, but > Belchertown does more than that. It shows weather alerts for your

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Hello, On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 9:52:14 PM UTC-4, Xant wrote: > > > I always honor Tom, Pat and Matthew Wall time and work towards WeeWX > endeavour. > Agreed! > DarkSky has been a good resource and nice graphics. Now sold ("Good for > them, Bad for everybody else"). > > There are

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Spotted the same news and I have found a few, but they are all based on Dark Sky. I think we are going to have to wait for the industry to settle down a bit first :-( The best I have found so far is https://weatherwidget.io On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 7:03:49 PM UTC+1, Pat wrote: > > Hi

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

I always honor Tom, Pat and Matthew Wall time and work towards WeeWX endeavour. DarkSky has been a good resource and nice graphics. Now sold ("Good for them, Bad for everybody else"). There are alternatives. And as Pat correctly pointed out, the "replacement" needs to be of Global

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

I'm sure the Belchertown skin could benefit from the forecasts plugin, but Belchertown does more than that. It shows weather alerts for your location as well as current conditions. The forecasting plugin doesn't provide those 2 bits. For that you need a service, and if you're getting info from

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 6:38:28 PM UTC-4, William Burton wrote: > > > My thought was to enhance the weewx-forecast extension to: > > >- Output a generic JSON file that can be loaded via Ajax into a theme. As > much as possible, the JSON would be generated in a manner that's consistent

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Hello, On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 4:34:46 PM UTC-4, Wes Witt wrote: > > how about implementing a design that allows for weather forecast > extensions/plugins. then regional plugins can be built and allow the user > to choose the weather forecast service that is best for them. this way you >

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

I agree. Based on what I was able to look at, what I need to replace are weather alerts, 8 day forecast and current conditions. I think the only limitation with the free tier respective to what I need, the 8 day forecast would become a 5 day forecast. More research to do however once I find

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Regarding OpenWeatherMap, yes, the free plan more limited than the paid plans, but the limitations of the free plan seem reasonable for a weewx site. -Bill On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 3:36:34 PM UTC-4, Wes Witt wrote: > > problem with openweathermap is the free subscription is very limited.

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Not a bad idea but with a 5 day old kid I'm not sure how much time I can devote to a re-write like that. PR's are accepted! On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 4:34:46 PM UTC-4, Wes Witt wrote: > > how about implementing a design that allows for weather forecast > extensions/plugins. then regional

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

how about implementing a design that allows for weather forecast extensions/plugins. then regional plugins can be built and allow the user to choose the weather forecast service that is best for them. this way you don't need a single service that works for everyone. it can be very difficult to

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

A lot of folks are suggesting US only services which just won't work for a lot of the Belchertown user base. Need to be thinking broader than the US On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 3:36:34 PM UTC-4, Wes Witt wrote: > > problem with openweathermap is the free subscription is very limited. for >

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

problem with openweathermap is the free subscription is very limited. for the us accuweather works well. On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 12:08:53 PM UTC-7, G Hammer wrote: > > I like OpenWeatherMap. > > > On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 6:57:35 PM UTC-4, Pat wrote: >> >> I'm looking at

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

I like OpenWeatherMap. On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 6:57:35 PM UTC-4, Pat wrote: > > I'm looking at OpenWeatherMap and yr.no. Both look like they could handle > worldwide current conditions and forecasts for free. More research to do > though > > On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 12:22:20 PM

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

I'm looking at OpenWeatherMap and yr.no. Both look like they could handle worldwide current conditions and forecasts for free. More research to do though On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 12:22:20 PM UTC-4, Xant wrote: > > > DarkSky announcement on it's blog: https://blog.darksky.net/ > > Excerpt

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

DarkSky announcement on it's blog: https://blog.darksky.net/ Excerpt regarding DarkSky free Weather API: "Our API service for existing customers is not changing today, but we will no longer accept new signups. The API will continue to function through the end of 2021." Its sad, troublesome

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Congats Pat On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 2:03:49 PM UTC-4, Pat wrote: > > Hi everyone, I'm a bit tied up and offline with the birth of my new > daughter, but I got news today that DarkSky has been acquired by Apple. For > existing API users, API will remain online until 2021, but they are not

[weewx-user] Re: Changes with Belchertown skin & DarkSky

Congratulations Pat On Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:03:49 UTC+3, Pat wrote: > > Hi everyone, I'm a bit tied up and offline with the birth of my new > daughter, but I got news today that DarkSky has been acquired by Apple. For > existing API users, API will remain online until 2021, but they are