I think theres lots(Eelco usually being the friendliest), however
considering the subject of this thread. I think most will be inclined to
be not so friendly.
- Kick a guy in his ass and then asking to borrow a coin won't get you any..
regards Nino
A_flj_ wrote:
Thanks, I'm just downloading
Hi all,
I have been on holiday for a while... and I am very much surprised to
see this thread still going!
Eelco Hillenius wrote:
previous post. After all, as far as I could notice, he's the only one who
didn't make fun of this thread's initiator in his first response.
You know how it
Al Maw wrote:
I'm guessing you didn't try typing wicket treetable into Google and
clicking the I'm feeling lucky button?
Right, I pushed the google search button instead. Silly me.
I got to sites where the examples were on display. But I could not find any
place where a downloadable
hi,
What I do:
- checkout the directory wicket-examples
try checking out not only wicket-examples but the whole trunk.
then you should have all dependencies.
regards, --- jan.
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A_flj_ wrote:
Bad bad bad bad thing that the examples for the wicket-extensions are either
hard to find or not documented very well. I'm trying for half a day now to
find an example markup for inserting a treetable, but could not find
anything.
I'm guessing you didn't try typing wicket
Thanks, I'm just downloading the examples, hopefully I'll get what I need
from them.
Is there any friendlier poster here than Eelco?
A_flj_
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Is there any friendlier poster here than Eelco?
yes he is called igor
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Hello.
It seems some people didn't understand my previous post, and consider it
offensive (private post). To all ppl who potentially had the same
understanding of my post I appologize. It wasn't meant to be offensive. I
really mean Elco is a friendly responder, and that's what I meant in my
Hello.
It seems some people didn't understand my previous post, and consider it
offensive (private post). To all ppl who potentially had the same
understanding of my post I appologize. It wasn't meant to be offensive. I
really mean Elco is a friendly responder, and that's what I meant in my
On 6/7/07, Upayavira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've often heard it said that us human beings are strange - we often
prefer the familiar to the pleasant.
And it is confirmed in this article [1]:
Explaining Cognitive Lock-In: The Role of Skill-Based Habits of Use in
Consumer Choice
KYLE B.
Bad bad bad bad thing that the examples for the wicket-extensions are either
hard to find or not documented very well. I'm trying for half a day now to
find an example markup for inserting a treetable, but could not find
anything.
IMO it would be _very_ useful to make wars/jars/zips with Eclipse
I too would be sad to announce this outcome, especially after investing the
time necessary to research and evaluate the options and having looked into
some of the ways wicket improves the whole development experience for web
apps and, the quality of the end product.
I have only been working with
In our company we are using Wicket since last year and I am working on the
second project with it. For the first project, client insisted on using
wicket and this was an opportunity to learn.
For the second project (fully ajaxified application), we had to choose
between GWT and Wicket, and
hope to use it for as many as possible projects in the future :).
Good to hear. I hope you and others will continue being part of the
community, making Wicket the best framework we can.
Cheers,
Eelco
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Jon Laidler wrote:
True separation of concerns is the mantra we should use when asked why
Wicket. Let web designers do their magic with web site design, and leave
Java coders handle the components.
I think Wicket sells itself short if it emphasises only the
designer-developer separation
big snip /
You know all technology aside... It should be clear even to a lay person
the value of the wicket community is tremendous.. Outside of a few well
deserved smart-a** comments you can always get help and or someone to
even go the extra mile to teach.. So thank you...
./C
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:40:33PM -0700, JonLaidler wrote:
I would be interested to hear how many companies are usng Wicket, and how
many of those companies switched to Wicket from other frameworks.
Here's my Wicket story. Our team is a small internal development group
inside a large bank.
Hi John,
John Krasnay wrote:
Amongst Wicket's many advantages, the following stand out for me:
- The ability to encapsulate UI components, including all required
markup, CSS, Javascript, and localization files, into shared JARs on
the classpath. Having a shared component library is key
I think that forms and tables seem awfully verbose when you first
start Wicket. A wiki page or two taking an example of such through a
reasonable evolution to some short, tight code would be nice. I have
an old e-mail thread where Igor does exactly that, helping me. I'll
put it together into
Nice work :). This would make a good contribution to wicket-minis.
After that, if you could whip up one with autocomplete instead of
refresh, that would be great too :)
best,
jim
On 6/6/07, Scott Swank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that forms and tables seem awfully verbose when you first
This was almost exactly my own reaction to the original assertion
that this team has very strong OOP skills. The criticism cited sounded
a lot more to me like reflex than any kind of thinking.
James McLaughlin-3 wrote:
Hi Florian,
To be honest, you should have titled this post My team did
Florian Hehlen-2 wrote:
-It will be easier to hire someone with Struts knowledge on top of the
fact that we have some in-house knowledge with it.
translation: we don't want to think
-Struts is the de-facto standard with a lot of
community/vendor/documentation support
translation:
On 6/7/07, Jonathan Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Florian Hehlen-2 wrote:
-It will be easier to hire someone with Struts knowledge on top of the
fact that we have some in-house knowledge with it.
translation: we don't want to think
-Struts is the de-facto standard with a lot of
HI all,
I am sad to announce that my company did not choose to use wicket after
comparison with struts 2. :-(
One criticism that came out as we were looking at Wicket code was that
there seems to be a need to write a lot of Java code in a ListView for
such things as displaying a table.
I am sad to announce that my company did not choose to use wicket after
comparison with struts 2. :-(
it are 2 different worlds..
can you give me an example then with a page with 2 listviews on it
that are sortable for example on both struts and wicket ...
(ofcourse if i sort one then the
This is not very difficult to implement. The displaytag example in
wicket-examples used to have it and it was based on ListView. But I
think we removed it since Repeater/DataView etc from wicket-extension
is more flexible and elegant and our preferred approach for most table
type implementation. I
Florian Hehlen wrote:
HI all,
I am sad to announce that my company did not choose to use wicket after
comparison with struts 2. :-(
One criticism that came out as we were looking at Wicket code was that
there seems to be a need to write a lot of Java code in a ListView for
such things
I am sad to announce that my company did not choose to use wicket after
comparison with struts 2. :-(
One criticism that came out as we were looking at Wicket code was that
there seems to be a need to write a lot of Java code in a ListView for
such things as displaying a table. Although I
Hi,
The 3 key arguments against wicket were:
-It will be easier to hire someone with Struts knowledge on top of the
fact that we have some in-house knowledge with it.
-Struts is the de-facto standard with a lot of
community/vendor/documentation support
-Struts seems heavy on the java-code
But you've decided to use struts2. Struts 2 is a complete rewrite,
it's different than struts 1.
-Matej
On 6/5/07, Florian Hehlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
The 3 key arguments against wicket were:
-It will be easier to hire someone with Struts knowledge on top of the fact
that we
hi,
oops! first a correction:
Struts seems heavy on the java-code required for things that are pretty
simple with Struts should have read Wicket seems heavy on the
java-code required for things that are pretty simple with Struts2
Struts 2 is a complete re-wite... yes and no. It's nothing
Hi,
The comparison was a bit skewed where I showed the richness of such
components as a DataView(sortable and pageable) in wicket and that was
compared with a simple static table on Struts 2.
Johan Compagner wrote:
Wicket if adding those low-level components was only necessary
Sorry to hear that Florian. But I hope you'll have a good ride with
Struts 2 all the same (and that it does solve some of the problems
that Struts 1 has).
Eelco
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Sorry to barge in, but...
I what I really don't get is:
Is these science or fiction?
Because if those are the kind of arguments... Then I must agree with Peter,
its a waste of time, and just say that.
They don't see Struts-2 for what it is, they don't see Wicket for what it
is. What is the
Hi Florian,
To be honest, you should have titled this post My team did not make
the grade. There are many developers in the world whose skill and
ambition rise little above cut and paste robot, and many burned out
managers who have decided employees will never be capable of much
else. Struts is a
Is it possible to agree more with this post?
f(t)
On 6/5/07, James McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Florian,
To be honest, you should have titled this post My team did not make
the grade. There are many developers in the world whose skill and
ambition rise little above cut and paste
Al Maw wrote:
Maybe we should include something like this in wicket-examples. People
just don't seem to appreciate how easy it is to write this stuff.
Absolutely you should do this. Two big reasons I was able to persuade my
current client to go with Wicket were the excellent examples and
Hear, hear...well said, Jim!
jk
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:42:16AM -0500, James McLaughlin wrote:
Hi Florian,
To be honest, you should have titled this post My team did not make
the grade. There are many developers in the world whose skill and
ambition rise little above cut and paste robot,
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007, Florian Hehlen wrote:
Well how about simply binding a DataView to a the Model and assume that
for all wicket:id in the html template I should find a getter method in
the bean?
This sounds like a CompoundPropertyModel in use
Sorry to hear that.
I would be interested to hear how many companies are usng Wicket, and how
many of those companies switched to Wicket from other frameworks.
Personally, I think Wicket is the best framework I have come across. True
separation of concerns is the mantra we should use when asked
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