Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

Hoi Bob, Wikipedia is not English Wikipedia. It has its own problems and it could do better as well. The point of a marketing approach is not only in reaching more editors. Having people help with more content for instance with micro tasks is achievable. The point must be that the work done makes

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

I agree with pretty much all that Bob says here, except one important point: This is probably correct for Wikipedia in English, and maybe a few other very big languages. A rarely remembered fact: most people don't know English. In other languages there's much work to do in writing articles on

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

I've been active with Wikipedia since 2006. My impression (which corresponds with data) is that 2008 was the year with the highest number of editors on English Wikipedia. While it may sound good on paper, in some ways it was a mess because of the frequency of vandalism. Nowadays I know there are

[Wiki-research-l] Spreadsheet autoformatting errors, MRIs, and more reasons for open research

Two articles of potential interest to medical and Wikimedia researchers: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/opinion/sunday/do-you-believe-in-god-or-is-that-a-software-glitch.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/26/an-alarming-number-of-scientific-papers-contain-excel-errors/

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

Ah if it's just semantics that's fine, as long as someone is actually researching that part of it. :-) In my area (which is actually games research), 'gamification' usually means something more specific, although the definition keeps shifting admittedly. But more often the trend of adopting

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

That really depends on how you define 'gamification'. To me, the gamification is not the leaderboards, but exactly the elements you mention - the splitting of the whole into simple microtasks plus giving out those microtasks to users for a large part at random. In fact, I usually play the

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

Dario Taraborelli writes: > *Gamified interfaces for microcontributions à la Wikidata game*. > (per GerardM) there's absolutely no doubt this model is effective at > creating a large volume of high-quality edits, and value to the project and > communities. I agree

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

Hoi, I respectfully disagree. There are two issues here. The most important one is that marketing may have multiple objectives and gaining more people as editors is not restricted to any of our projects. Secondly it is not restricted to editors it also applies to readers. It should be glaringly

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

I get where you're coming from, but a great way to inspire the projects to improve their onboarding processes would be an endless influx of newbie editors. *Edward Saperia* Founder Newspeak House email • facebook •

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

I completely disagree with this criticism of the WMF. It seems to me that the main barriers to getting gamification happening in relation to en.wiki are cultural / organisational issues not marketing ones. If the editing communities genuinely wanted huge influxes of complete newbie editors, I

Re: [Wiki-research-l] Thinking big: scaling up Wikimedia's contributor population by two orders of magnitude

Dario Taraborelli, 27/08/2016 22:49: How making the edit button 10x larger is not a solution to this problem is a topic I'll reserve to a separate thread. You might want to include screenshots of the popups which are currently run to point people to the edit button. Nemo