Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up

2015-05-19 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 19.05.2015 um 16:19 schrieb Magnus Manske: {{#property}} doesn't auto-link Note that this is likely to change in the future. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-17 Thread Daniel Kinzler
be fixed. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-16 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Sense has its own set of Statements. Each Sense can be linked to Senses of other Lexemes (explicit synonyms or translations) and to Q-id concepts (implicit synonyms or translations) using Statements. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-14 Thread Daniel Kinzler
(usually in other namespaces) at those projects should be linked too, but can't be handled automatically. Would they be handled as sitelinks in Items? Yes, I'd assume so. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-08 Thread Daniel Kinzler
meanings. Though, it seems to me reasonably possible. The idea is to do this by having both lexical entries reference the same Q-item as one of their meanings. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for Wiktionary

2015-05-07 Thread Daniel Kinzler
(articles on particular series of (not-language-associated) symbols/characters)? Task 1 (Interlanguage-Links for Wiktionary) would not involve Wikidata or Wikibase at all. It would be a standalone extension linking pages with identical names between wikis. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer

Re: [Wikidata-l] Auto-transliteration of names of humans

2015-05-02 Thread Daniel Kinzler
it. It seems to me that we could use transliteration support for more languages, and that we should figure out a way to apply it to the main label and description shown at the top of the page. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien

Re: [Wikidata-l] Auto-transliteration of names of humans

2015-04-23 Thread Daniel Kinzler
. Wikidata has one label per language, no main label. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikidata-l] Auto-transliteration of names of humans

2015-04-22 Thread Daniel Kinzler
, at least for the BMP. Support for other unicode planes (say, traditional chinese) may not be perfect. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Auto-transliteration of names of humans

2015-04-22 Thread Daniel Kinzler
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Re: [Wikidata-l] World's largest cities with a female mayor :-)

2015-04-20 Thread Daniel Kinzler
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-07 Thread Daniel Kinzler
___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
descriptions that are more readable and friendly than dry metadata for users applications. I guess GLAMs will continue to use DBpedia for this purpose if Wikidata doesn't offer it. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens

Re: [Wikidata-l] Data templates

2015-04-01 Thread Daniel Kinzler
elsewhere, a label (and description) can be shown in the user's language. Internationalized statements/properties are rarely needed. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Dutch streets on Wikidata, and I do not see why any other country could be different - provided we have good sources. I fear doing this is going to kill Wikidata. Neither the software nor the community scales to managing entries for every street in the world. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software

Re: [Wikidata-l] Names, Aliases, Copyright (and a little OpenStreetMap)

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
about it being official or sourced. Decent automatic translitteration is fine I think. Automatic word-for-word *translation* however seems rather problematic. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
also hosted on the WMF cluster. Or we implement http based federation (planned, but a lot of work, and waaay down there on the prio list). -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata for light houses

2015-03-11 Thread Daniel Kinzler
any attribution or share-alike provisions. Conversely, data may be copied from Wikidata without restriction. (OSM is licensed under the Open Database License) This applies to any copyrightable material. Facts (this is a lighthouse) are not copyrightable. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software

Re: [Wikidata-l] OpenStreetMap + Wikidata

2015-03-10 Thread Daniel Kinzler
... -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata

2015-03-07 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 07.03.2015 um 18:49 schrieb Jeroen De Dauw: Don't worry, it'll be some time before AI can actually ingest Wikidata, see https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7313450/entropy/aitraining.png ERR 0xBAADF00D -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur

Re: [Wikidata-l] mapping template parameters using Wikidata?

2015-03-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
for extracting information somehow, right? Dimitris, can you enlighten us? -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikidata-l] mapping template parameters using Wikidata?

2015-03-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
property. let me know if this helps :) -- daniel [1] http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/ [2] http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/Mapping_en:Cricketer_Infobox [3] http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/OntologyProperty:Country [4] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P17 -- Daniel Kinzler

Re: [Wikidata-l] Empty references

2015-02-28 Thread Daniel Kinzler
for it. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Empty references

2015-02-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
that introduced them were https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4383128diff=182364626oldid=112941200 and https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2382164diff=190607412oldid=171428564 Cheers Lydia -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft

Re: [Wikidata-l] Broken JSON in XML dumps

2015-02-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 27.02.2015 um 12:33 schrieb Dimitris Kontokostas: Standard XML MW format exists for long time and is supported by existing software. IMHO both XML and Json dumps should be treated with the same priority They should, in fact, be using the same code -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software

Re: [Wikidata-l] Broken JSON in XML dumps

2015-02-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
this? Not everywhere, I assume -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikidata-l] Call for development openness

2015-02-20 Thread Daniel Kinzler
companies (Wikimedia operates on a shoe string budget, compared to other sites with upwards of 100k hits per second), but the pay isn't shoddy either. Come and visit! Let's talk! -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] descriptions in mobile app

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
materialize them in the database (and then invalidate/update them when appropriate), or we generated them on the fly when creating the dump. In summary, I understand the issue, but it seems tricky to get the solution right, both conceptually, and in terms of engineering. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior

Re: [Wikidata-l] descriptions in mobile app

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
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Re: [Wikidata-l] descriptions in mobile app

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
. Depends on how much more data this would actually be. Which also depends on whether we would omit descriptions in languages that can easily be covered by language fallback (e.g. no separate descriptions in de-ch and de-at). -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland

Re: [Wikidata-l] descriptions in mobile app

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
, and apparently what at least some consumers of our dumps expect and desire. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikidata-l] descriptions in mobile app

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 09.02.2015 um 13:26 schrieb Magnus Manske: On Mon Feb 09 2015 at 11:27:06 Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de mailto:daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 09.02.2015 um 12:17 schrieb Magnus Manske: My autodesc API serves both at the moment, so the consumer can decide

Re: [Wikidata-l] Missing dumps with history

2015-02-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
-pages-meta-history.xml.bz2 9.7 GB. Just the 7z version seems to be missing for some reason. - -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJU1JXAAAoJEBGbJNn1aZjcQ9UQAIa

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-02-01 Thread Daniel Kinzler
consistently, it's a major bug. A streamlined workflow for moving a sitelink to another item would be nice though. Could be built as a gadget, but we should look into integrating it fully. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens

Re: [Wikidata-l] Impossible to add interwiki links

2015-01-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
silly technical reason that this is not easy to change at all. We tried to do this right when we introduced the other widget, of course. I don't recall what exactly the problem was though, and it might have been fixed since. Worth another look... -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer

Re: [Wikidata-l] A look at Wikidata

2015-01-11 Thread Daniel Kinzler
separate does not keep you from modeling them again as statements. One remaining obstacle is the fact that WD does not have a data type for multilingual text yet, but that will be added soon(ish). -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung

Re: [Wikidata-l] Freebase's incompatible types and Property description permissions

2015-01-08 Thread Daniel Kinzler
think we want to have an item about the *address* of the embassy. If we did, the country of the address would probably be Germany (even if the embaqssy is technically Swiss territory). -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] input for article placeholder

2014-12-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
points at the beginning of that page. Also: If someone comes up with a better name for this that'd be awesome. 3 Cheers Lydia -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-12-10 Thread Daniel Kinzler
kind of like the idea of making our Lua integration more powerful, so it could be used to manipulate the skin and talk to the API, not just generate article content. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Sitelinks to Redirects

2014-12-10 Thread Daniel Kinzler
like this. Again, not saying it shouldn't be done. Just saying it's not going to happen tomorrow, and there's quite a few things to consider. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Unicode escapes in Wikidata RDF N-Triples

2014-12-05 Thread Daniel Kinzler
in! Would you report that issue to easyRdf at https://github.com/njh/easyrdf/issues? You seem to know that code better than my by now :) Please cross-link https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76854. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur

Re: [Wikidata-l] Loan words data model

2014-12-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
) in Portuguese. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] statements on properties are live (+deletion propagation)

2014-12-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
such relationships for queries is a lot harder. They essentially add an entire dimension of data to process. It's possible, and would be cool, but it's not easy, so don't hold your breath... -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Entity IDs and RDF Description Documents

2014-11-26 Thread Daniel Kinzler
that our RDF mapping is still very incomplete. Statements are not covered at all at the moment. The JSON representation is complete. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Entity IDs and RDF Description Documents

2014-11-26 Thread Daniel Kinzler
, Turtle, N3...) but the RDF serializations do not currently contain statements. Regards, Thomas Oops, didn't see your mail, you said it all :) -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Broken dumps?

2014-11-21 Thread Daniel Kinzler
, you'll see why... -- danielo -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikidata-l] Surname property

2014-11-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
of the surname property may not use/show the correct spelling for the person in question. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata RDF

2014-10-28 Thread Daniel Kinzler
the data we have today. Expect this to be billions in a years or two. Few, if any, triple stores scale that way. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Multimedia] Inclusion criteria for Wikidata items for paintings, engravings, illustrations, manuscript folios, photographs, old postcards, etc ?

2014-10-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
. Any thoughts would be welcome Thanks John -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Multimedia] Inclusion criteria for Wikidata items for paintings, engravings, illustrations, manuscript folios, photographs, old postcards, etc ?

2014-10-24 Thread Daniel Kinzler
, and perhaps there is no general, one-size-fits-all solution. One thing that may help is the planned high level media info API, which provides license/attribution/legal information about files in a unified form, drawing from structured data both on Commons and Wikidata. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior

Re: [Wikidata-l] Associating WD items with WP article sections (it was: redirects, workflow)

2014-10-23 Thread Daniel Kinzler
to use a hack like this. Note that currently, we can't just do this without breaking some assumptions/expectations. We'll need to hink hard about how to get this right. But section transcusion doesn't strike me as a good way to go about this. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Wikidata-tech] Description(s)

2014-10-22 Thread Daniel Kinzler
that should be all new format. And yay for switching to JSON! Cheers Lydia ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Wikidata-tech] Description(s)

2014-10-22 Thread Daniel Kinzler
on the Wikibase side. I'm trying to get hold of someone who can confirm/fix this. I have filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72348 so this gets tracked. I'll also bring it up in our next call with the foundation. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Wikidata-tech] Description(s)

2014-10-22 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 22.10.2014 11:06, schrieb Daniel Kinzler: Hi Lukas! That really shouldn't happen... Can you tell me on which item that happens? Also, please double-check the namespace and content model of the respective entry in the dump. Never mind, I found it in the dump. Can't reproduce, though

Re: [Wikidata-l] Special:Export broken?

2014-10-19 Thread Daniel Kinzler
in the same format as the dumps with history? best, Lukas ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Multimedia] Inclusion criteria for Wikidata items for paintings, engravings, illustrations, manuscript folios, photographs, old postcards, etc ?

2014-10-13 Thread Daniel Kinzler
the text-only ones, in case they are extracted to a png file or something). -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Users do understand Wikidata less than before

2014-10-13 Thread Daniel Kinzler
? -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Content negotiation for Wikidata entity export in RDF/N-Triple

2014-10-10 Thread Daniel Kinzler
for the concept is https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q1 (which is a redirect to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q1). HTH -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Item both subclass and instance?

2014-09-25 Thread Daniel Kinzler
and structure, so only the /instance of/ property is right for this item ? I tend to agree with you, but then you can also see it this way: ethanol is a class of molecules. Ethanol molecules are instances of that class, which is a subclass of alcohol(s). -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software

Re: [Wikidata-l] Making a Wikipedia article link to two wikidata items

2014-09-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
for the language link problem, but modelling the relationship of these three items on wikidata is kind of annoying/tricky. How would you do that? -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Memcached traffic

2014-09-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing

Re: [Wikidata-l] Making a Wikipedia article link to two wikidata items

2014-09-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
like Wikipedia disambiguation pages: we have items, but the items are mainly about the page, not about any real-world concept we care about. Thanks Markus, I like that a lot :) -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikibase now has a home

2014-09-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
on MediaWiki, and then have the extension only as glue between that core and MW. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] badges support on Wikidata

2014-08-15 Thread Daniel Kinzler
to override the label used for the badge? -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikidata-l] integration of VisualEditor and Wikidata

2014-08-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
parameters this way, it should still be possible to at least detect the class (instanceof) of an item based on the templates the respective wikipedia page contains. We should definitely map dpedia classes to wikidata items. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia

Re: [Wikidata-l] JSON dumps available

2014-07-25 Thread Daniel Kinzler
the one you mentioned. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikidata-l] JSON dumps available

2014-07-23 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 23.07.2014 16:30, schrieb Fredo Erxleben: Great. Which JSON-version is used in the dumps? The internal dumpfile-JSON or the external Web-API-JSON? The JSON dumps use the external (canonical) serialization format. The XML dumps will be switching to that too, soon. -- daniel -- Daniel

Re: [Wikidata-l] JSON dumps available

2014-07-23 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 23.07.2014 14:25, schrieb Magnus Manske: Thanks, this looks very promising! Any chance you could do daily diffs as well? And sync them to Labs quickly? Please file a feature request for daily diffs :) -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland

Re: [Wikidata-l] WikiData Categories

2014-07-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
less painful. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Monolingual text and old languages

2014-06-30 Thread Daniel Kinzler
to the community alone. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Monolingual text and old languages

2014-06-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of labels?

2014-06-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
look at our RDF mapping (e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q64.ttl), we do already use skos:prefLabel and skos:altLabel. (Note: The RDF mapping does not yet include claims at all, it's currently only for labels, descriptions, aliases, and site links). -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of labels?

2014-06-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
with the concepts they identify. It allows that relationship to be re-used automatically in a context different from wikidata itself. That's it. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of labels?

2014-06-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
to you. Note that *all* string values in RDF are multilingual, always. SKOS does not need to provide a new mechanism for that. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of labels?

2014-06-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Using SKOS just says that --(means)-- can be written as skos:prefLabel (resp skos:altLabel). The requirement is that the labels in different languages refer to the same concept. It does not mean they have the same connotations, or no other possibly diverging meanings. -- daniel -- Daniel

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of labels?

2014-06-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
. And these are mistakes that should be fixed. So? -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of labels?

2014-06-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 06.06.2014 15:42, schrieb David Cuenca: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de mailto:daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: SKOS is a good fit for Wikidata data items. For modeling Wiktionary, LEMON fits a lot better http://lemon-model.net

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-28 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] What is the point of properties?

2014-05-28 Thread Daniel Kinzler
a relatively limited and stable set of properties to map makes that a lot easier. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] Using external vocabularies (like RDA) in WikiData ?

2014-05-28 Thread Daniel Kinzler
in the RDF representation of data items. But it would be easy for an external tool that knows how to interpret such claims on properties to build an appropriate mapping using owl:sameAs or a similar mechanism. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur

Re: [Wikidata-l] Tables

2014-05-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
(probably as CSV) would be quite nice. It wouldn't be hard to do either. But I'm not sure how that would tie into wikidata as a project. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread Daniel Kinzler
. Labels of referenced sitelinks should have fallback applied, but are not editable. Sitelinks are unrelated. As I said: it needs careful design. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread Daniel Kinzler
be relatively easy to write a gadget that allows this. Could even be a single text box, with one language per line - a terse power user interface. The whitespace thing could easily be done as a gadget as well. Is there a gadget kitchen on wikidata.org yet? -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread Daniel Kinzler
we have ticket for that? -- daniel PS: it's not an *absolute* inability: you can enter the ID directly. But that's not very nice, I know. -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread Daniel Kinzler
useless in most languages. I actually agree with you for statements. I was talking about the label/description/alias area. For items referenced in statements, we should have fallback for display and item selection more swiftly. But still, it will not be tomorrow. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler

Re: [Wikidata-l] Bot request: 250+ thousands person data

2014-04-29 Thread Daniel Kinzler
). This is a bit complicated, but should allow you to actually represent uncertain dates. We made it so you can be precise about the uncertainty :) HTH Daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit 0.1.0 released

2014-04-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
how to get all the libs you need into the classpath is one of the major annoyances of java... -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] qLabel

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Kinzler
___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V

Re: [Wikidata-l] qLabel

2014-04-02 Thread Daniel Kinzler
... bah, annoying. -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-12 Thread Daniel Kinzler
, what's your take on the Wiktionary proposal https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary? I'm curious what you think of it. We briefly talked about this kind of model in Amsterdam last year - I hope the proposal is what you hoped for, at least roughly :) -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-10 Thread Daniel Kinzler
attributes to labels. -- daniel ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-06 Thread Daniel Kinzler
2014 17:15, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de mailto:daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 06.03.2014 17:12, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, So how do I indicate that up to a particular date Jakarta was called Batavia ? Muhammed Ali was called Cassius Clay

Re: [Wikidata-l] Question about progressive loading

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 27.02.2014 01:30, schrieb David Cuenca: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de mailto:daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: To clarify: the problem is not loading data, but initializing widgets. The browser isn't waiting for the server, it's

Re: [Wikidata-l] supported and planned wikidata uris( was Re:Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject)

2014-02-27 Thread Daniel Kinzler
http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q12345.json works as a redirect to the above, but is discouraged, since it mixes the concept URI with a format suffix that is meaningful only for the description, not the concept. HTH Daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland

Re: [Wikidata-l] Yandex Islands

2014-02-14 Thread Daniel Kinzler
. » https://github.com/bobuk/islands/blob/master/interactive-answers-eng.md Nemo ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update Status PropertySuggester

2014-02-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
and ideas Christian, Virginia, Felix, Moritz -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikidata-l] Update Status PropertySuggester

2014-02-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 03.02.2014 16:33, schrieb Christian Dullweber: Hi Daniel, we use the normal search as soon as more results are requested than we could find and extend the result with properties only found by the search. As it should be, thanks! -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer

Re: [Wikidata-l] ontology Wikidata API, managing ontology structure and evolutions

2014-01-15 Thread Daniel Kinzler
party software. Of course this constraints should not be enforced by wikibase. Lukas -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l

Re: [Wikidata-l] wikidatawiki_old database on s3

2013-12-19 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 19.12.2013 11:36, schrieb Katie Filbert: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Sean Pringle sprin...@wikimedia.org mailto:sprin...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi S3 cluster has a `wikidatawiki_old` database presumably from before the move to s5. Seems to be an orphan not included in

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikisource-l] DNB 11M bibliographic records as CC0

2013-12-07 Thread Daniel Kinzler
the users easily import the data when it's needed. An obvious example is pre-filling of book/work metadata on Wikipedia articles, Wikisource books, Commons files (and associated Wikidata entries). +1 -- daniel -- Daniel Kinzler Senior Software Developer Wikimedia Deutschland Gesellschaft zur

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