[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Peter
Holly Poop! This is a thread that is really getting to the nut of the issue. And an issue that has me thinking, well to be honest, I've always found myself an anarchist and my trust of western philosophies "imposed" on others has often got my goat. You know, what right do we have to think we have

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Leigh Blackall
That was a fresh and accessible read thanks Peter. I especially liked and found interesting the 5 suggested areas of development research. There was a sudden jump in the level of detail, but I hung in there. BTW, have you heard of this thing called the Delphi Technique

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread NELLIE DEUTSCH
Peter, Is it really about ideas and opinions? I don't think so. I believe it's about egos and how we manage to live with our feelings. Ideas only get in the way. I think it's time we dealt with our emotions at a much deeper level so that ideas and circumstances don't separate us from ourselves and

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Minhaaj ur Rehman
Dear Leigh, i am amazed by your continous bringing up of controversial topics in wikieducator like me and i would like to applaud you for your tenacity. You can most certainly ignore people like Patricia and Randy who are ACTUALLY the destructive profiteers. Thanks for highlighting the issues that

[WikiEducator] Re: Free materials for primary education in physics available

2008-10-30 Thread Günther Osswald
Hi Maria, just follow my link to get more info on SUPRA. I just repeat: http://www.edu.uni-muenchen.de/supra/ BTW, welcome to WikiEd from my side! I've taken a look at your naturalmath.com website. Attractive layout and a creative idea. Appealing! As you may have seen, I'm math teacher and know

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread john stampe
This is an interesting discussion, and I would like to add my two cents. I am quite new to wikieducator, however, this discussion, in general terms, is not really new. I spend some time on Linux forums and you often see the same issues. For example, on the Gentoo forum (my Linux distro) there is

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Alex P. Real
Hi Leigh, Minhaaj & All, Thanks for the clarification Leigh, thought you were referring to some NZ/Aus specificity I was not aware of! In terms of global edu I couldn't agree more, though I think it runs deeper than West/ non-West and it's rather about social control & associated political/capita

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Maria Droujkova
Chris, Can you please point me in the direction of some good examples? I want to see multiple pages from different points of view about the same concept. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:51 AM, Chris Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Names stand for ideas, so there will be the one and the only page

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Maria Droujkova
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We need the ability to subclass, reuse, alter, and create > multiple versions of OER. Localized yet reference the source... This > would provide diversity and celebrate similarities. I look forward to > the day where we can have m

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Chris Harvey
Your asking something different. Originally you were talking about naming. Disambiguation would probably be a good example of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation For a good example of multiple pages from different points of view about the same concept perhaps look at this

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Leigh Blackall
Alex said: Sorry if pushy here but have you > considered your approach could be perceived as an imposition itself? > Criticism is great, and I mean it, but what alternatives do you suggest? > Ever thought TQF could ease many lives, e.g. qual recognition abroad, which > can be a real nightmare? >

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2008-10-30 Thread Randy Fisher
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[WikiEducator] Re: Free materials for primary education in physics available

2008-10-30 Thread Peter
Congratulations for this wonderful step in adding to the global repository of OERs. Peter On Oct 30, 2:29 am, Günther Osswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Maria, > > just follow my link to get more info on SUPRA. I just > repeat:http://www.edu.uni-muenchen.de/supra/ > > BTW, welcome to WikiE

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Peter
Leigh, A very wise observation. And you are correct, at an atomic level, we have very little collaborative work on WE. The whole of WE is a collaborative effort, yet all the individual lessons, materials, modules, etc... are in general created by an individual and rarely edited by another. So you

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Maria Droujkova
> > I haven't yet come across any > materials that really get into teaching people to collaboratively > create materials... Maybe this is an OER that is well overdue... upon > a review of the recently published OER handbook (http:// > www.wikieducator.org/OER_Handbook/educator) there isn't a lot o

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Barbara Dieu
Agree, Peter. It's important to project our hope towards the future and consider the macros, mesos and micros. However, more important is never forget to question them, discuss them, debate the multi-possibilities. Dealing with /knowing how to cope with cognitive dissonance and working collaborat

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread NELLIE DEUTSCH
Peter, You said: Come to think of it, during my masters we never took any courses specifically targeted toward creating collaborative works. Well, during my masters, we did a lot of collaborative team work. We wrote papers together and even created a collaborative WebQuest. Even in my doc program

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread Leigh Blackall
Peter, Nellie I guess you're ignoring my suggestion that collaboration is NOT what we need. At least not the sort we have been thinking of and looking to measure... On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:18 PM, NELLIE DEUTSCH < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter, > You said: Come to think of it, during my mast

[WikiEducator] Re: !!RE: [WikiEducator] Re: Another Milestone

2008-10-30 Thread NELLIE DEUTSCH
Leigh, I may be slow. I apologize because I certainly did not intend to ignore your suggestions. I had no idea anyone you were suggesting not to collaborate. I missed it all. I would be very grateful if you could explain what you mean by collaboration and why we don't need it. It may be that I misu