t dger...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's good to see you assuming good faith and setting an example.
>>>>
>>> "Assume good faith" in this Project has come to mean "Don't ask questions".
>>> That era is finally ov
because they think they won't be blocked,
also requires judgment. Not all these judgments will be correct.
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e who edit Wikipedia trying to get along in a normal
workplace) and the diversity of the articles. There is also an
argument that a homogenous workplace would work against 'neutral point
of view'.
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o be able to rise above.
The discussion that resulted from the redirect "James Clerk-Maxwell"
was interesting as well. It *started* with a rather abrupt template
notice, but the resulting discussion was good in the end.
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ld possibly help collaboration, ensure only credible articles get
> mainspaced, yet retain "anyone can edit" and the gradual development of
> stubs without pressure to delete.
>
> Thoughts?
It's been suggested before. What i
wiki/User:Dravecky/Genre_conventions_incubator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Carcharoth/Article_incubator
Also, see this search for "draft" in the title of user namespace pages:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search=intit
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:39 PM, FT2 wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Carcharoth
> wrote:
>
>> (Snip)
>>
>
>
>> Remember that not all drafts have that in the page title.
>>
>> It might even be possible to just add a category to all userspace
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> Carcharoth wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:02 PM, FT2 wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be in favor of a "Draft:" namespace, which users could use for drafting
>>> articles. Content to be non-spidered
Oops! That's right, I completely forgot that! :-/
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On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Andrew
Turvey wrote:
> Non-logged in people cant create new articles.
>
> ----- "Carcharoth" wrote:
>> From: "Carcharoth"
>> To: "English Wikipedi
, not from their own
authority.
Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:32 AM, wrote:
> Just the opposite.
> We want experts to edit the controversial bits.
> Do you really want a swarm of amateurs who have little-to-no basis in
> the field being the sole people editing the most contentious port
places for user drafts and collaborative drafts.
Just not organised (but then WP isn't that organised at the best of
times).
Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:36 AM, wrote:
> How about a two-tiered approach.
> IF you want to create an article yourself, do it in your userspace.
>
the normal way) and let them know what you've done, as you then need
to delete the redirect. It is usually only done for obvious cases
(e.g. someone write a biography of themself that should be on their
user page instead).
Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Emily Monroe wrote:
> I
t weight.
But more often than not, you end up with arguments and fights instead.
Sometimes very polite arguments, sometimes very incivil arguments,
sometime very long arguments, sometimes very incoherent arguments.
Sometimes mediation and other measures can help. Sometimes not.
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creasing availability of sources online.
During the existing lifetime of Wikipedia, it is interesting to note
how certain areas of the internet grew at the same time. Was this
serendipity (chosing the right time to start Wikipedia) or something
more?
Ca
illion-articles.html
I agree with the first comment:
"This piece contains 12 sentences, of which at least 5 are false or
misleading [...] Wikipedia was launched by Jimmy Wales and Larry
Sanger, not by Ward Cunningham and Richard Stallman."
And so
didate is this one from 1704:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexicon_Technicum
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Picturesque Europe" by Cassell. Not in
good condition. If I had a full set (seems to be about 10 volumes) and
they were in good condition, they would be worth a few hundred pounds.
Published in around 1870.
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You would delete all these articles I've created that no-one else has
edited? :-(
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:45 PM, wrote:
> Only if I can write a corollary, "Any article 90 days old or more, with
> a single editor should be deleted". That would be a
list should be
moderated (is a day's delay acceptable? A week's delay? What sort of
things should be moderated?).
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Agreed. Jay, the last time I went through the moderation queue, there
> were 15 messages from you.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Carcharoth wrote:
>> Goodness. Yes. That is a large number of volumes.
>>
>> Why not scan them and "store" them at wikisource? Or are these modern
>> encyclopedias rather than old ones?
>>
> 1
is in the Wikisource
repository of EB1911, include a {{Wikisource1911Enc}} tag as the first
line of the References section."
Unfortunately: 4.5% complete.
So it looks like it will be slow progress there.
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ambiguation page only has two entries.
That is an acceptable trade-off to having a spongebob squarepants
character name jarring people's reading experience by being placed at
the top of an unrelated article.
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/8/19 Carcharoth :
>
>> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankton
>> When I go to look something up on plankton (a core encyclopedic
>> article if ever there
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>> 2009/8/19 Carcharoth :
>>
>>> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankton
>>> When I go to look som
necessarily rv on that basis but I probably would if they've had any
> sort of warning that day.
Same comment as above. Reverting should never be done without checking
what you are reverting TO.
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long simple question...
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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:47 PM, wrote:
> This is how I do it. If in "Plankton" we have only one other thing named
> planton, then we shouldn't have a disamg page just for two items. That seems
> overkill. So in that case SB_Plankton mak
OK. I'll break it down:
1) Do you accept that trivial disambiguations can be unencyclopedic?
Carcharoth
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:59 AM, wrote:
> I have no idea what you just ask. That's a lot of jargon for one
> question.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> Fro
evant
hatnote. Reading a hatnote that says "For other things with this name,
see (disambiguation)", distracts the reader far less than the
other examples I gave.
Do you get what I'm saying now?
If your reply is that we should rigidly stick to the "disambiguation
pages need mo
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:34 AM, David Gerard wrote:
> 2009/8/20 Carcharoth :
>
>> That is why I am saying that it is best to have a neutral form for hatnotes:
>> "For other things with this name, see (disambiguation)".
>> Or whatever the standard wor
ng they see. Correct me if
> I'm wrong about this being the initial issue, Carcharoth.
Yes, that's what I'm driving at. I'm uncertain as to whether Will
realises this is what I'm getting at, and doesn't think it is an
issue, or missed the point entirely. My issue ha
do similar but different things, in different ways.
Carcharoth
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:05 PM, quiddity wrote:
> We do already have on this guideline wording on this, for anyone wondering:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Disambiguation_pages
> "If there are t
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Tony Sidaway wrote:
> On 8/19/09, Carcharoth wrote:
>> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
>
> I don't see the problem here. Be bold and remove crap, whether
> pointless hatnotes or anything else.
They are not pointles
Lists are something different from articles.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_lists
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On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Jay
Litwyn wrote:
> List-class articles are lowest on the scale of quality.
> Going up in rank, it is "list, stub, start, b-class, g
How does this differ from the talk page assessments? If this is meant
only for readers-who-don't-edit, then you will have to tell editors
that, as there will be some editors that try and skew the feedback for
a particular article.
Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Erik Moeller
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Tony Sidaway wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:52 AM, David Gerard wrote:
>
>> 2009/8/21 Tony Sidaway :
>> > On 8/19/09, Carcharoth wrote:
>>
>> >> Does anyone else get annoyed by certain hatlinks?
>>
>> >
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Tony Sidaway wrote:
> On 8/22/09, Carcharoth wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Tony >
>> But you've used a two-item disambiguation *hatnote*, whereas what
>> others (including me) would do is create a three-item disambiguati
people or city or the other
stuff. Hopefully someone there will give tips on how to filter out the
links from templates, otherwise I may just have to link "Vienne" from
the templates using some hacked-together redirect, wait for "what
links here" to update, and then sort out w
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
> Now I'm off to dump all this on "Vienne (disambiguation)" and then
> I'll go and moan at WikiProject Disambiguation about how one can't be
> expected go through all the 500+ links pointing at "Vienne&quo
gle search for "etymology vienne"? Ah, silly me. When I search
for "Étymologie vienne", it is the top hit. Should have thought to
search using the French term for etymology.
Meanwhile, back on the English Wikipedia, a bot has added loads of interwikis:
http://en.wikipedia.org
;articles" per
> se, and you won't get input from a single page, you'll get continuous input
> from a million sources simultaneously in twitt-bits.
I wouldn't be so horrified if that didn't sound so plausible.
Is it
mised (by editors), it will be fascinating to see what
relationships that throws up.
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On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Andrew
Turvey wrote:
> Similar story also reported by the BBC:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8220220.stm
Oh dear. Same picture as for the previous BBC story on Wikipedia.
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ear plus 25 cents per image.
That's cheap. You can go higher than that. Do more market research.
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get in touch with people who will be talking about it at
Wikimania maybe? And mention Wikimania, where I believe it will be
discussed.
Are you actually going to be in the studio or will it be via a sat
link? And is it just you or others as well? How long are you going to
h TV, Newsnight is probably the most
> highbrow current affairs program we have. This is a very big deal!
> Best of luck to you David, I know you'll do a fantastic job.
I wonder if Jeremy Paxman or his researchers read this list? :-)
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were wanting to correct
them on some points, but didn't get much of a chance.
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.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Living_people
400,653 BLP articles (as of 26/08/2009)
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics
3,012,053 content articles (as of 26/08/2009)
Hence the BLP percentage is 13.3%.
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ed about that and how
real death reports get handled (I think the news broke a few hours
later).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kennedy
Currently has a big "pp-semi-vandalism" template on it, as well as the
"recent deaths" one.
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people to add a BLP tag. Whether people
remove such tags after things have settled down again, I don't know.
Carcharoth
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Andrew
Turvey wrote:
> Thanks for the figure - not bad estimate, considering it was off the top of
> my head :)
>
> I would a
in the article, than
the reader's comprehension skills).
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rs making major contributions of new text, rather than being
the work of tens of thousands of smaller edits, plus anonymous
contributions. It also implies that his claim to be a professor of
theology gave him status on all those 20,000 pages, when Essjay's
reputation was more complex than t
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:52 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> Also, if you can find anyone at the London Paper who gives a hoot
> about what they're producing any more (apart from the Em cartoon,
> that's good), I'll give you a lollipop ;-)
Em's good, but N
to please not be BITE-y? No, seriously. We don't want a large
influx of editors arriving to help after reading about things in the
news, only to run into someone unfriendly or rules-bound.
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rsonally, I think regulars need to encounter the same "delays" as
everyone else. It will open their eyes to what it is like editing
logged out or without an account (more reversion of edits).
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2009/8/27 Carcharoth :
>
>> If the regulars editing have some auto-flagging to approve their own
>> edits, surely they risk approving someone else's changes that were
>> made in between the time they loaded a
success. This has already been identified as a problem and flagged
> revisions may make this worse. We need to address this risk.
Both recruiting and *keeping* new contributors (i.e. welcoming them
and helping them learn how to edit Wikipedia).
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
> This is one reason I asked for an edit filter to be set up to monitor
> how often people add and remove this category and how often vandals do
> this (either intentionally, or as part of another edit). Of course,
> once you have
That sounds strange. From the discussion I read, these templates had
been around a while and spreading. Were they actually recreations that
no-one noticed? Probably best to go to the on-wiki discussions at this
point.
Carcharoth
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Tony Sidaway wrote:
> The fut
be fair, space launches often get postponed (bad weather) and
launch failures are also not that rare, so having some standardised
wording for articles that might not get updated is good. Possibly
could be dealt with by having the articles written in ways that make
th
Could you link to an example?
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Keegan Paul wrote:
> ...and they are continuing to roll in. Any more firm ideas? They seem to
> think that they are applying for "staff". I haven't the time to read all
> reporting, feedback would be great.
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009
rticles
>
> Holy cow. Is Jimbo aware of this?
Don't you mean "is the Wikimedia Foundation aware of this?"
Carcharoth
PS. I pointed out in an earlier thread that this mis-reporting would
lead to people thinking new editors are being sought especially for
this. It's poin
e become:
"...Wikipedia want 20,000 new editors to join..."
[We do want this, but not with the wrong impressions]
I can see how something like that could have happened.
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To uns
e to guess which one. What I'm wondering is whether that
counts as a source, and if so what sort and how and whether it should
be used (I'd say Wikipedia should hold itself aloof from gutter
journalism and celebrity wranglings).
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t;garage sales". We
(Brits) have those sometimes, but more often we take stuff to a local
charity shop, or a school's "jumble sale", or stick stuff in the boot
(luggage compartment) of a car, drive with others to an empty field,
and have what ca
her doesn't seem to be something
Wiktionary has attempted yet.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Americanism
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/American_English
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/British_English
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Scottish_English
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Commonwe
oid being reverted - WP:BOLD is still widely
> accepted as a good guideline, isn't it?
Is it not more likely that most long-term editors who have been active
for years have had most of their text mercilessly edited into oblivion
and have very low average "trust" levels? And
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Carcharoth
> wrote:
>> Is it not more likely that most long-term editors who have been active
>> for years have had most of their text mercilessly edited into oblivion
>> and have very lo
and experienced users would be just as capable of misinterpreting it.
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That's a very good idea.
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, FT2 wrote:
> I think there's a terminology issue.
>
> We cannot refer to this as a "trust" system, however "Wikitrust" brands it.
> We just can't. It misleads too many, and impli
of the recent page view listings.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8237271.stm
Interesting story there. Hadn't realised there was even a lawsuit in progress.
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On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> Carcharoth wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8237271.stm
>>
>> Interesting story there. Hadn't realised there was even a lawsuit in
>> progress.
>>
> "With Google books, any
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> I was away and missed the FR discussions, but I have to say this: the
> vanishing point is nowhere in sight!
"vanishing point"?
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Have you ever read any of the more disputatious Manual of Style talk pages?
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On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Fred Bauder wrote:
> I suppose, as in matters of internet deportment, civility, we must also
> accept the burden of maintaining the standard for English usage, global
>
pened there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thomas_Stevenson&diff=132398205&oldid=126719712
A long series of vandal edits, and eventually someone only partially reverted.
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usual
expression, to become thick-skinned:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thick-skinned
I guess you knew that all already, actually, but I wasn't sure if you
were joking when you made the 'doctor' comment above. Medical
analogies, eh? :-)
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pedia.org/wiki/Dating_(activity)
Hey, nice template!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Close_relationships
And it is at the side of the article not hidden at the bottom. Thank goodness!
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pedias are the things I
see people missing out most. Plus not simply searching Wikipedia to
see how often something is mentioned in other pages but not yet
linked.
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s well). That sometimes gets me confused. PRODs can
be undeleted, but I've never been 100% sure about CSDs. Do you need to
ask the deleting administrator about those first?
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>
> Go more slowly, is all I can suggest ;-p Do take heart that anyone
> who's read large chunks of Special:Newpages will fully concur on the
> absolute necessity of knifing lots and lots of babies.
Baby *pages*, I should point out to any horrified readers... :-)
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gt; attention. Like maybe deleting and protecting the article and redirecting
> it to the New York Times. And caste it as speedy delete for non-notable
> subject.
Well, posting a plan like that to a publicly archived mailing list is
a good start at not attracting attention.
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ctly pointed out that people were
drifting off-topic, and he sees you as a kitten (presumably "nice")
but with a whip, telling people to stop going off-topic. But there
might be other references I'm missing there. I'd take it as a
compliment and make up a nice nickname for
ngs I have read have often been in userspace (and
projectspace) essays. And the worst, as well, but then some of the
worst things I have read have been on policy and guidelines pages as
well.
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:55 AM, David Goodman wrote:
> i agree with you very much that Welc
l articles in a
project rated (e.g. WikiProject Biography with its hundreds of
thousands of articles, many of which are stubs or starts). As soon as
you have all articles rated, you then need to find a way to find out
which ones need re-rating, and to avoid duplication of effort. How do
you do that effi
org/wiki/Oyfn_pripetchek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heutagogy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Step_Up_to_the_Plate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_Oktar_bibliography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdomality.
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Surreptitiousness
wrote:
> Carcharoth wrote:
>> I have a list of 12 articles that are either unassessed or need
>> re-assessing, if anyone is interested in using that as the basis of a
>> discussion about ratings. The articles all hav
nd bad (the input gets skewed if the notices are
only of certain groups of editors).
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ing it is true), rather
than articles where a reliable sources confirms it is a hoax.
Essentially, absence of proof of being a hoax is not the same as
presence of proof that it is a hoax, and if you only have the former,
you need the time for people to find s
etimes even before
they are speedied.
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That discussion has all the Swiss cheese stuff as well.
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On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:45 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> That's 980 Britannica-sized volumes. Or about 15 sets of Britannica.
That's smaller than I thought. We obviously have a lot of very small articles.
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n called "Wiki Journal". All actually different things (the first
one being only a proposal so far).
Brand identity is the word I'm looking for, I think.
And confusion over brand identity.
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has long been a debate between conservation and restoration. Is
it better to conserve something, or to restore it? In the case of
digital photos, you can do digital restoration, while the original has
conservation techniques applied to it, as Durova or someone has
mentioned before.
Carcharoth
_
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, geni wrote:
> 2009/9/17 Carcharoth :
>> There is a lot more skill than 'painting by numbers' involved. One way
>> to tell is to look at the market for such skills. Look at the salaries
>> paid to a painter and to a skilled image re
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wrote:
> 2009/9/17 Carcharoth
>> And in any cases, some aspects of restoration *are* creative (mainly
>> the ones that involve filling in missing material), but those can be
>> controversial.
>
> Matter of interpret
to be considered. But not all.
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> 2009/9/17 Carcharoth
>> Thanks for those examples. An excellent restoration. I'd love to
>> discuss the missing hand in more detail some time, as that is a good
>> example of something I think can be con
will make
Wikipedia more verifiable, but less informative.
I can't find the category I was thinking of. It had pictures like that
one of a funny-shaped car.
Some of the old NFCC discussions might help as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/Archive_41#Unknow
organised summary of previous talk
page discussions, so that people can be pointed to previous
discussions and sometimes even a FAQ of answers to perennial
questions.
That way the debates can move forward, rather then being repeated endlessly.
Carcharoth
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I think it is this bit:
"You can recommend other people's papers and see how many people are
reading yours, which you can't do in Nature and Science"
Carcharoth
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