Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:40 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > > Let's hope so. A key point is that the extraordinary overreach of this > surveillance affects everyone. I am absolutely delighted that the Wikimedia Foundation has taken this courageous step - precisely because surveillance affects us al

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Hi. I'm of two minds here. I would love for mass surveillance to stop; the revelations of the past few years are disgusting. However, this lawsuit has the appearance of being the start of a completely un-winnable case that's merely an expensive political stunt. Perhaps especially due to the SOPA p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Michelle and Geoff - thank you. This is a big step; I am glad that WMF can help move this case forward. Chris Keating writes: > I'm not American, but the other co-plaintiffs seem to be civil rights / > human rights organisations who are firmly at the left-wing/progressive end > of US politics, som

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

In the U.S., there is also a strong minority contingent of Libertarians, who tend to be on the right-wing/conservative part of the political spectrum. These are natural allies for both privacy & governmental non-intrunsion. I think that they would welcome WMF joining this legal action. Yours, Peac

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > I'm not American, but the other co-plaintiffs seem to be civil rights / > human rights organisations who are firmly at the left-wing/progressive end > of US politics > I am an American, and I'm not so sure about that characterization. Here

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Data privacy, encrypted links and recent change captures

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:15 PM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > > Could we have an update on what is being done over the last year to protect > the privacy of user data sent between datacenters? > Someone in ops could add more detail on the actual work in progress, but you can watch the public t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Aye, I also only have anecdotal evidince at this point (from my father who has been messaging me and myself) but the comments I've seen in the american press have been 10:1 (higher on tech sites) with generally more thoughtful comments then usual and where there are critiques they are not bad ones.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

It's difficult to overstate how much people love us. We tell them everything about everything, and we're mostly right and try to stay neutral. But it's all written by just people! So it's cosy as well. With SOPA, we discovered that: when Wikipedia says you suck, you *suck*. So I'd expect that thi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

> > Curious question, by the way: how controversial would you expect this move > to be domestically? From e.g. a Swedish perspective, the NSA is an > intelligence agency of a foreign power and the other mentioned > organizations are either largely uncontroversial and seen in a positive > light (Amn

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 8:53 GMT+01:00 Michelle Paulson : > Hi All, > > I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is > filing suit against the National Security Agency > , the Department > of > Justice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Data privacy, encrypted links and recent change captures

On 01/01/2014 9:11 AM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" wrote: > > John Vandenberg, 30/12/2013 08:10: > >> Are the Wikimedia transit links encrypted, especially for database replication? >> MySQL has replication over SSL, so I assume the answer is Yes. >> >> If not, is this necessary or useful, and feasible

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

That's great! Pending for translation. 2015-03-10 10:21 GMT-06:00 Pete Forsyth : > There's a relevant research project outlined on Meta, about HTTPS: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy > > Here's the "nutshell" description: > > "Since we started switching to H

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

There's a relevant research project outlined on Meta, about HTTPS: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy Here's the "nutshell" description: "Since we started switching to HTTPS and an increasing portion of inbound traffic happens over SSL, Wikimedia sites stopped adv

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Probably a good time for everyone to know about EFF's HTTPS Everywhere: HTTPS Everywhere is a Firefox, Chrome, and Opera extension that encrypts your communications with many major websites, making your browsing more secure. Encrypt the web: Install HTTPS Everywhere today. https://www.eff.org/htt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Kudos to the Legal Team on this important case! -greg aka varnent On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:01 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) wrote: > Greatly done! > This is not just news. It is a mark that will be recorded in bold letters > in the history of human's quest for knowledge. > > > -user:ViswaPrabha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy & Learning patterns

Since so many movement entities have some take on this document, I have started listing them at Feel free to expand. :-) -- Jean-Frédéric ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 13:26 GMT+01:00 Comet styles : > for an organization taking on the NSA for "spying"..why are we using > https? doesn't that show that we are already scared of them and > running with our tail between our legs? > (For non-technical readers: the HTTP protocol is the normal way to send a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

I created draft of the article about the case in English Wikipedia. I'm not sure it's not too soon to move this draft to the main namespace. Please add content and then move it to main ns when you think it's ready. Best On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy & Learning patterns

Not with WMUK. most of our reimbursements are travel-related, but they fall under the expense policy as the others do. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Greatly done! This is not just news. It is a mark that will be recorded in bold letters in the history of human's quest for knowledge. -user:ViswaPrabha https://ml.wikipedia.org On 10 March 2015 at 18:15, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > https is generaly increasing privacy of the users. http can be "l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

https is generaly increasing privacy of the users. http can be "listen" by anyone. It is like using walkie-talkie - anyone with radio-scanner can listen :-) 2015-03-10 13:26 GMT+01:00 Comet styles : > for an organization taking on the NSA for "spying"..why are we using > https? doesn't that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy & Learning patterns

Indeed, this is all very interesting material; thank you everyone for taking the time to share it. Wikimedia DC has separate expense reimbursement ( http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Expense_reimbursement_policy) and travel ( http://wikimediadc.org/wiki/Travel_policy) policies. I wonder if this is more

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy & Learning patterns

This is great, Emeric! We’d be glad to take a look at this. :) For our part, Wikimedia Philippines has a travel policy as part of our Expense Policy, and it’s been working well for us for the last 3-4 years now. We’ll be glad to share our policy as well. http://www.wikimedia.org.ph/wmph/Expen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

for an organization taking on the NSA for "spying"..why are we using https? doesn't that show that we are already scared of them and running with our tail between our legs? On 3/10/15, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > this sounds exactly as a thing we, as a movement, need institutional > support of W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

this sounds exactly as a thing we, as a movement, need institutional support of WMF for. Thanks for doing that. dariusz "pundit" On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Michelle Paulson wrote: > Hi All, > > I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is > filing suit against the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Hoi, I applaud this action. Great. The next step is making it not so easy for the NSA to harvest their ill gotten gains. We could and should share our data from cache servers that are much closer to our users ie outside the USA. The benefit would not be so much in frustrating the NSA but more in p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Thank you for taking this action. All the best, Michael Michelle Paulson 10 March 2015 07:53 Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is filing suit against the National Security Agency

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Hi, Wow! I am proud to be a volunteer working with an organisation daring to take such steps. I hope that this will bring concrete results. Best regards, Yann 2015-03-10 8:53 GMT+01:00 Michelle Paulson : > Hi All, > > I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is > fili

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is filing suit against the National Security Agency , the Department of Justice , and the U.S. Attor

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy & Learning patterns

If anyone wants to compare and contrast, you can find WMUK's expenses policy (covering travel and other expenses) here: https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Expense_policy Best regards Michael Michael Maggs Chair, Wikimedia UK Emeric Vallespi 9 Ma