Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation joins the global climate strike

2019-09-20 Thread Adrian Raddatz
I'm more interested in the numbers for the WMF as a whole. One CEO does not make an emissions problem, and in a global-reaching organization I'd hope that the CEO would be flying around a bit. Focusing on the ten or so executives at the Foundation seems like a sensational approach rather than a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-09 Thread Adrian Raddatz
is is what the community-selected board seats should do, except the organization is too large for the board to function in that way. Adrian Raddatz On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:51 AM Paulo Santos Perneta wrote: > I only started following WMF stuff more closely around 2 years ago, but I > don't r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-06 Thread Adrian Raddatz
sition on the issue. And I really don't see how it is desirable that the Foundation is willing to push ideas through without community support. Again, are they a top-down governance organization, or a service organization aimed at supporting and empowering the editing community and readership? Adrian R

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community feedback and next steps on movement brand proposal

2019-09-06 Thread Adrian Raddatz
community groups *before* you start consulting, and use them as part of the consultation, so it stops being Foundation vs. the community and turns into the Foundation collaboratively supporting community-led ideas. It pains me to see this being done poorly, time and time again. Adrian Raddatz

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-12 Thread Adrian Raddatz
I'm tempted to sit this one out. The Foundation has organized a bunch of working groups, staffed primarily through volunteers of various types, to present some strategic recommendations for moving forward into the future. We are a movement with flaws and opportunities for improvement, as with any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block

2019-07-04 Thread Adrian Raddatz
people accountable for their behaviour regardless of whether or not they are correct. - And ultimately just try other approaches. It's an internet website, we can change or amend things if they don't work. Adrian Raddatz On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 9:39 AM WereSpielChequers < werespielchequ...@gmail.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Introducing Wikimedia Space: A space for movement news and conversations

2019-06-28 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Yes, like Samuel I'm excited to see some experimentation with alternative (and hopefully better) mediums for community engagement. Adrian Raddatz On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:05 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > I love the idea of experimenting like this. > More like this please. The simpler and l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '17 - Scholarships, Registration, Submissions

2017-05-16 Thread Adrian Raddatz
You must have received faulty information. The recipients have always been revealed, at least in past years. Adrian Raddatz On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja < pavan...@vishvakannada.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Long back when I asked for list of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates regarding the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

2017-04-09 Thread Adrian Raddatz
. If there are actual concerns from the Wikimedia community over this that haven't been raised in the last decade, then people will raise them. But you're going to need to do better than suggest some abstract improvement in transparency and accountability. Adrian Raddatz On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:57 AM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updates regarding the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

2017-04-08 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Still absolutely no need to do this as a requirement. Adrian Raddatz On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <domedonf...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nataliiya, > > Thank you for that information. It seems that you are happy to introduce > the new members of this Committe

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?

2017-03-06 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Agreed as well. Anders, that is one of the most sensible posts I've seen on this list in a long time. Adrian Raddatz On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Peter Southwood < peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Agreed, > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using WMF employee accounts and employee personal accounts in the same community discussions

2017-02-27 Thread Adrian Raddatz
their expected mixed usage > of accounts labelled "(WMF)" and personal accounts by the same > employee in the same discussion. > > Fae > > On 27 February 2017 at 18:11, Adrian Raddatz <ajradd...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh please. It might be a bit confusing, b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using WMF employee accounts and employee personal accounts in the same community discussions

2017-02-27 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Oh please. It might be a bit confusing, but there's no huge issue here. You could have just asked the person to remain on one account, rather than accuse him of sockpuppetry and ask an admin to block him if it continues. I'd call that a rule of basic interaction in an online setting - be curtious.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-02-26 Thread Adrian Raddatz
or a small and randomly selected group of them, or a small and randomly selected group of others. Adrian Raddatz On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Pax Ahimsa Gethen < list-wikime...@funcrunch.org> wrote: > Thank you for sharing that Rachel Nabors post, David; bookmarked. I think

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Draft Code of Conduct for Technical Spaces

2017-02-24 Thread Adrian Raddatz
on a lack of interest. Adrian Raddatz On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 4:12 PM, quiddity <pandiculat...@gmail.com> wrote: > * The people in the WMF and the Affiliates are /part of/ of the > communities. > * Even the people without extensive years of volunteering, or those who > only st

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

2017-02-18 Thread Adrian Raddatz
action taken against them beyond their termination in cases of abuse. Simple as that. Adrian Raddatz On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > AJ, > > > "Just because volunteers are competent enough to deal with something > doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

2017-02-18 Thread Adrian Raddatz
rid of people that the Foundation doesn't like. As to the appeals process proposed above, that is not useful either in my opinion. Nor is there any relation between being a bureaucrat, AffCom member, etc. and having the time, knowledge, and competence to deal with these cases. Adrian Raddatz

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

2017-02-17 Thread Adrian Raddatz
differently. Instead of imposing a WMF ban, they could build a case for a community ban, and follow that process instead. As I said though, I'm not convinced that there is a problem with how things are done currently. Some things shouldn't be handled by community governance. Adrian Raddatz On Fri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

2017-02-17 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Wikimedia isn't a country, the global ban policy isn't a law. Any such metaphors are honestly a bit ridiculous. The WMF bans are, for the most part, sensitive. And that means that they all need to be, because if you have a list of reasons that you can disclose, then any bans without comment are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

2017-02-14 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Not for any wiki; only Meta had wmf staff with admin rights, and only for use within their specific work-related areas. I am totally unconcerned with WMF staff having the necessary permissions to do their job. They can easily be held accountable as paid employees. On Feb 14, 2017 11:53 AM, "Fæ"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 2017 Wikimania Scholarships

2017-02-14 Thread Adrian Raddatz
me link given at > >> https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Scholarships send the > >> applicant to a form designed for applications for the 2016 Wikimania. > >> Is this intentional or are applicants using this form going to be > >> automatically rejected? > &g

[Wikimedia-l] 2017 Wikimania Scholarships

2017-02-10 Thread Adrian Raddatz
submitting an application. If you have any questions, please contact: > or leave a message at: https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Scholarships Please help us spread the word! Best regards, Adrian Raddatz for the Scholarship Committee https://wikimania2017.wikimedia.org/w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-22 Thread Adrian Raddatz
I quite like the Phabricator guidelines. Can't those just be replicated to apply to all technical spaces? No more years of debate needed, or new arbcoms, or strange statements of principles, or exhaustive lists of inappropriate behaviour. Adrian Raddatz On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Peter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-21 Thread Adrian Raddatz
comment. I'm sorry for referencing it in my comment then; I wasn't trying to "mould" your opinion to support my own. Adrian Raddatz On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:29 AM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think they want a code of conduct as a background to any kind of > enf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-20 Thread Adrian Raddatz
someone from engaging in prolonged campaigns of on-wiki harassment using sockpuppets. Maybe it's time to think about a more strict account--> operator connection, such as requiring email addresses on new account creations and a method of checking accounts by email. Adrian Raddatz On Sun, Nov 20, 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Discussion about proposed Technical Code of Conduct (TCC)

2016-11-20 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Similar to Vito, the safe space/code of conduct crowd has never demonstrated that any of these principles are not already held and enforced across our projects. Adrian Raddatz On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > Same here, ofc. > I still canno

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Elections Committee

2016-09-02 Thread Adrian Raddatz
iki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee>. Regards, Adrian Raddatz On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am also curious whether the committee members (and by extension the WMF >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suggesting moderation

2016-07-26 Thread Adrian Raddatz
Considering how horrible on-wiki dispute resolution can currently be for all involved, I'm OK with keeping this in private here. Adrian Raddatz On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Thanks for the input, folks. > > So, it looks as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

2016-06-07 Thread Adrian Raddatz
% of the time here - block or lock evasion after the system has already worked? Training would be a single sentence: "rinse and repeat the block/hide process until they decide to stop." Adrian Raddatz On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmmm. I find

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Harassment and blaming the victim

2016-06-05 Thread Adrian Raddatz
ways be the case. And unfortunately, this isn't an area that a code of conduct or any of those proposals would help with. Adrian Raddatz On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Pax and Pete, > > It sounds like part of the issue in this case may be th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transparency: special WMF employee rights for Wikimedia projects

2016-06-03 Thread Adrian Raddatz
t into one or two usergroups, rather than the variety of groups existing now and some access to non-staff rights on top of that. Adrian Raddatz On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > For anyone unaware, in 2014 I created a bot task to maintain a page on > Meta[

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Transition plans for WMF leadership - Board Reform

2016-02-23 Thread Adrian Raddatz
I like the idea of reserved seats for the global south. I would prefer to still have some appointed members for expertise, but that number should be diminished to give the community seats a majority. Somewhat controversial: I'd prefer to scrap the affiliate - selected seats. Chapters vary so much

Re: [Wikimedia-l] UN subscribe me from Wikimedia---IMMEDIATELY

2013-06-16 Thread Adrian Raddatz
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