Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

> > ‫בתאריך יום ו׳, 22 בפבר׳ 2019 ב-10:30 מאת ‪David Cuenca Tudela‬‏ <‪ > dacu...@gmail.com‬‏>:‬ > > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> > > wrote: > > > > > What is our definition of knowledge? >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 9:52 AM Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > Do the people to whom you speak have the same understanding of what our > definition of knowledge is? I guess I can make them aware of it from now on :-) ___ Wikim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, 08:27 Amir E. Aharoni, wrote: > What is our definition of knowledge? > In my opinion, the informal definition would be: all the information that the Wikimedia community allows into their projects. Regards, Micru > ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

Hi Mark, Benjamin and me we had a Skype conversation about this topic. Maybe he can elaborate with his insights? Regards Micru On Thu, 21 Feb 2019, 19:11 Mark Rousell, wrote: > On 18/02/2019 11:04, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > > the current definition of knowledge by Wikimedia > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

I know a number of people in > the Roles & Responsibilities group have been reading with interest, thank > you very much for sharing. > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Roles_%26_Responsibilities > > Chris > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

rve this? Later > it will be a little bit difficult to find it again on a mailinglist. > I myself find this point of view of "outsiders" very interesting and worth > to notice e.g. in strategic discussions. > Kind regards > Ziko > > Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 11:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

ted in any recommendation that is even remotely > related to how can the Wikimedia movement be more truly international, and > it sounds like there could be something about it there, but even if there > isn't, is love to hear the rest. > > Thanks! > > בתאריך יום ב׳, 18

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

> > > from Russia with love, > > farhad > > https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region > > > > -- > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ Тел.+79274158066 / > > skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU: > > > > > > 18.0

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

> https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region > > > > -- > > Farhad Fatkullin - Фархад Фаткуллин http://sikzn.ru/ Тел.+79274158066 / > > skype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU: > > > > > > 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" : >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

ype:frhdkazan / Wikipedia:frhdkazan / WMRU: > > > 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" : > > Hello, > > > > Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where people from > > different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat, > >

[Wikimedia-l] Inisghts from a meeting with NGO representatives

Hello, Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where people from different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat, democratic, and diverse organisations. I was one of four speakers in a "world cafe" format (basically a circle where participants can interact with the speaker)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the death of Wikipedia imminent?

Answering the initial question: It depends on how you understand "death". Wikipedia is the manifestation of a collection of algorithms running in the minds of thousands of people. With time it could become less popular to run that algorithm in your life, or you would like to try a different one. Wi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

; comparing the frequency of viewing of the average article about a female > architect as compared to a male architect. It should be noted that there > is also an inherent bias in that there are far fewer biographical articles > about women in most categories, as compared to men. >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

arch:Newsletter/2015/December#Does_advertising_the_gender_gap_help_or_hurt_Wikipedia > ? > > E.g. "On a typical (median) day in September 2014, no one read 26 percent > of the biographies of men versus only 16 percent of the biographies of > women." > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 3:35 AM David Cuenca Tudela > w

[Wikimedia-l] Page views of male/female biographies?

Hi, Are there any statistics that track the evolution of page views of male/female biographies in the different Wikipedias? Regards, Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Subject lines for WMF fundraising emails

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 6:17 PM Caitlin Cogdill wrote: > That said, there is a final input which is harder to measure on a per-test > basis: how do we, our colleagues, and volunteers feel about our messaging? > This team cares deeply about Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation, and > about the m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

p ideas as > contrast/critique of an existing process, than from scratch. In which case > quirks of a process, like incomplete sections of articles, can serve as > helpful inspiration. > > SJ > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:03 AM David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 9:29 AM Jane Darnell wrote: > But in the past I have felt quite strongly that something was > really really wrong, but it turned out it was just a factor of me being > unaware of workflow difficulties experienced by others. > I can subscribe to the sentiment. All the crit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:34 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote: > I fail to understand why, among the dozens of people > chosen to be part of the Working Groups, there's not a single one that can > be identified as a representative of that community. > Well, you can slice t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

ications, and select additional Working Group members, we > expect the overall ratio of volunteers will increase and these proportions > will change > > Thank you for your kind attention and time in bringing these issues up in a > more public manner and look forward to hearing from yo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

Dear Kaarel & Nicole, It saddens me that in the selection of candidates our digital projects are not directly represented. Where is the representation of volunteers from our digital communities like Commons, Wikidata, Wikisource, Wiktionary...? It is not the same to have members that work in thos

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France Governance review

Hi Nadine, Thanks for sharing the document with us. I read it and I found interesting to see the different clashes: - there is no awareness of the individual interpretations of our mission - the community wants anarchism in order to feel free, however the organization needs some kind of structur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Response to recent developments of United States travel ban

Dear Katherine, Members of INGOs can normally apply to special visas. Has such legal status been considered for the Wikimedia movement as a whole? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_non-governmental_organization Regards, Micru On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:42 AM Katherine Maher wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

really well is already a lot. Micru On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 3:06 PM Andrea Zanni wrote: > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:25 PM, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > Dear David, > your mail is very long and dense, I don't know where to start: > so I'll start from a random

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018, 19:39 Gerard Meijssen, wrote: > When you add the animosity when you come with arguments that are not > considered, it is too much. > Lack of mutual listening is a constant in our movement that I would like to address one way or another. The animosity depends more on your ow

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Volunteering and Appreciation (was: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF)

> > > I could not get enough interest to progress the conversation. > > > > You may wish to read > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_Management > > and the talk page thereof. > > &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

> failed to do anything about long-term harassment of a certain user > >>> directed > >>> at me - but this unfortunately happened before and will happen later. > >>> Specifically concerning the administrator issue, in the English > >>> Wikipedia I &

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

Hi Yaroslav, Thanks for explaining why you didn't answer. I agree with you, these kind of conversations can be *very* exausting, but in this case I am not looking for an argument, I am just trying to understand your position better. You formulated your standing against "regular paid editors not li

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

Yaroslav, Yes, you already made your point earlier, and I addressed it here [1] and also in the draft proposal to enable some volunteers to receive donations for their work [2]. The fact that you neither commented on my reply to your initial concern, nor on the proposal suggests me several possibi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

Aubrey, You speak so much truth in your words that I'm feeling overwhelmed right now. Because like a doctor who cares about his patient, you have just very lovingly and figuratively told me, "you are deeply sick". It hurts, I struggle accepting the truth, but deep inside I know that the only thing

[Wikimedia-l] Appropriation of the Wikimedia Blog by the WMF

Since Ed Erhart didn't honor my request of posting in this mailing lists to discuss the plans to appropriate the Wikimedia Blog for the Wikimedia Foundation [1] (although I would have preferred that he had done it himself as he is the visible face behind this change, and therefore the burden of pro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

oughest. > > For the model now being discussed I see it as comparable to "Wikipedian > in Residence", perhaps like "Admins (patrollers) financially supported > by a Community". > > Anders > > > > > > Den 2018-06-01 kl. 10:51, skrev David Cuenca Tud

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Just a question. When you pay volunteers, where does it stop? First of all I must say that what I might say as an answer to those questions reflects my understanding of this topic now, which is different than when the conversation started,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

Hi Pine, On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 4:31 AM, Pine W wrote: > This sounds like another good question for Nicole. Indeed, but she might be busy or in vacation. If she doesn't get involved into this conversation in the next days I will open a new thread about it. > * There are a number of people who a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

Pine, It is nice of you that you thought about including these topics in the WMF strategy process, which I assume it is an ongoing process and not a one-off event. However as the 2017 cycle ended, I am unable to find the way to incorporate new ideas into the process. I would have expected to find a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

Hey Yaroslav, thanks for sharing your view. I find very interesting what you mention, and if you have experienced yourself it must be a real effect on people. Five years ago, when I was awarded an IEG grant, I didn't feel the same effect on me. In fact it was quite the opposite, I felt under pressu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

Gnangarra, you have been showing a lot of generosity towards the community and that is laudable. As you, over the years I have also spent countless hours in this community, and I do not regret it either, I feel it has been and it still is a good investment of my time, and my dedication. You, as me,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

> My view is that the Foundation was suddenly (but not without warning) > made legally responsible for its own content after Trump made hosting > providers responsible for facilitating online prostitution > advertising, at pretty much the same time the GDPR went in to effect. I do not know enough

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

rm of payment would potentially make people responsible > for the content or seen as responsible putting them at greater risk. > > > > On 26 May 2018 at 22:49, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > > > I have the feeling that we need to clarify what it means to be a "paid > > a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

I have the feeling that we need to clarify what it means to be a "paid admin" vs a "community-supported volunteer". In my definition, a "paid admin" is a person who receives a salary to perform a delimited function not necessarily aligned with his/her will. There is a contractual obligation where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

the burden on admin when things > getting nasty > > I am not a supporter of paid editors, and think it would be too > controversial having paid administrators. > > Anders > > > > > > > Den 2018-05-26 kl. 09:38, skrev David Cuenca Tudela: > > On Sat, May

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 7:41 AM, James Salsman wrote: > I'm not sure that's true. Whether it started as a game of Nomic or > not, almost all of the admins have been elected through a certainly > established process. > That someone does an activity or that this person has been elected to perform

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 9:16 PM, James Salsman wrote: > Paid professionals work alongside volunteers in fire departments and > hospitals throughout the world. Are there any essential > characteristics which exclude such cooperation in Wikipedia? > There is a difference, and that is the degree of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Are we losing out against bad editing?

Hi Anders, I hear your worries. Indeed it seems that resisting the push is taking more effort than what the community can take under the current circumstances, or at least it doesn't look sustainable (the RfA chart shown in the last Signpost [1] is really clear on that regard). However, by provid

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recent statement on the block of Wikipedia in Turkey

Thanks for the explanation, James! On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:06 AM, James Hare wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:55 AM, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > > Hi Eileen, > > > > Thanks for the follow up and for the nice letter that you wrote to the > > Turkish

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recent statement on the block of Wikipedia in Turkey

Hi Eileen, Thanks for the follow up and for the nice letter that you wrote to the Turkish Minister. There is something I do not understand about Turkey's block and maybe you (or somebody else) could offer some insights about it. Apparently the ban was issued because it was felt that Turkey was mi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] Knowledge Integrity: A proposed Wikimedia Foundation cross-departmental program for 2018-2019

Hi Dario&Jake, Thanks for sharing the plan. Any possibility to include in the plan a system to archive all reference URLs and external identifiers linked from Wikidata? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143488 Additionally I think it would be interesting to have some research done on which refer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

Unlike Erik, I don't think an open alternative to Facebook will emerge, the inertia at this point is too big and you would need a huge critical mass of people (and organizations) to make it useful. Hard to attain. The only contender on the long run to FB could be reddit, because they seem to be mov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

voluntario del Comité de Subvenciones a Conferencias, > quedo pendiente y en consideración de tú comentario. > > Saludos, > > 2017-06-28 13:02 GMT-05:00 Dariusz Jemielniak : > > > hi David, > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM, David Cuenca Tudela

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

ru On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak wrote: > hi David, > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > > Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has > > started, and I have complained that

[Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

Hello, Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are insuficient to cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants was 36,000 EUR, but in my opinion that should be at least 72,000 EUR. I have t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

I think that's an excellent idea and very much aligned with our commitment to provide free information also for those who are living under unfavorable conditions. I personally endorse it. Thanks Cristian for suggesting it. Regards, Micru On Jun 5, 2017 19:11, "Cristian Consonni" wrote: > Hi,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is making me happy this week

com/groups/wikipediaweekly/ > > -Andrew > > > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:00 AM, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > Normally in our community we used to send angry emails when we were not > > happy with how things are going, and we

[Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is making me happy this week

Hello everybody, Normally in our community we used to send angry emails when we were not happy with how things are going, and we were not sending enough emails of satisfaction and encouragement. I don't know who started it, but the "what is making​ you happy this week" series might be one of the b

[Wikimedia-l] Naive questions: what could do the movement with 1B dollars/euros?

Are there any activities that could have a meaningful impact if we ask donors for such amount of seed money? Are there reasons to do so? Do we have the guts to do so? Do we have the organizational capital to handle it? Or can we get there soon? Do we have the moral right to take a lead in the wo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

Perhaps it would be a good idea to compare the translated text to the text that the user wants to save. If they are more than 95% the same, that means that the user didn't take the effort to correct the text. Cheers, Micru On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Wojciech Pędzich wrote: > It does depe

[Wikimedia-l] Is there freedom to believe a lie? (it was: "Wikitribune!")

The recent Wikitribune initiative seems to be based on the premise that the antidote to fake news is a collaborative news outlet. According to this premise, readers would confer authority to Wikitribune since they would be able to participate in the reviewing/reporting process. As a result fake new

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: Abraham Taherivand appointed permanent Executive Director

Congratulations Abraham! I wish you a good start in your new position! On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Tim Moritz Hector < tim-moritz.hec...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > Dear Wikimedians, > > It is our great pleasure to announce that during last weekend’s Board > retreat, we voted to appoint Abraham T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] English Fundraiser Update

And here: https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/5ik9zc/wikimedia_has_more_money_than_it_knows_what_to_do/ On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 7:14 PM, carl hansen wrote: > also being discussed at > https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/12/16/1631223/ > wikipedia-exceeds-fundraising-target-but-continues

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

Hi Denny, Thanks for explaining your reasoning, which hints towards a lack of tolerance and understanding towards people wearing several hats. It doesn't have an easy solution, as there is too much lack of trust. The only thing I wish is that your decision enables you to participate in the moveme

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > I assume you're looking for something like this > ? That screenshot was taken the dialogue > used to instead media in VisualEditor. Unfortunately, the search interface > in MediaWiki does not offer this functiona

[Wikimedia-l] Commons search display results

I was looking for some lichen images on Commons and I was wondering how can I show a grid of images. I tried several options but nothing, I think that there was some hack to make the search results look more like Google images, or maybe I am wrong? Is this part of the Discovery team work? Thanks

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [FDC] Wikimédia France Annual Plan Grant - 2015-2016 R2

Thanks Emeric,I will take a look. Regards, Micru On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Sydney Poore wrote: > Thank you, Emeric. I appreciate the commitment for community engagement. > > Warm regards, > > Sydney > On Mar 25, 2016 9:44 AM, "Emeric Vallespi" > wrote: > > > Dear Wikimedians, > > > > Si

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

Finally it is here! Now I don't miss conversations that are happening elsewhere. I know that many don't like it, but combined with Flow it works like a charm :) Thanks Micru On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Biplab Anand wrote: > This is amazing. > Thanks. > On 13 Mar 2016 03:20, "Andy Mabbett"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

ed to be curated > by volunteers, and bearing in mind that the CC-0 licence has the potential > of obscuring the origin of the data, cutting the very feedback loop your > argument relies on for a substantial subset of end users. > > Andreas > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:57 PM, David

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Wikidata and Wikipedia have very different purposes: Wikipedia is an > encyclopedia to be read; Wikidata is a database. No one reads a database. > The whole purpose of a database is to have its content multiplied and > surfaced elsewhere. T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation executive transition update

Congratulations, Katherine! I hope that you have a good start in your new position, and that the challenges ahead don't overwhelm you. Good luck, Micru On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Steven Crossin wrote: > What Oliver said. Katherine was my pick for interim ED as well. Im sure she > will do

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliate-selected Board seats] Kunal Mehta (Legoktm) candidacy

"P.S. I plan to leave my job at the WMF if elected." Then I hope you don't get elected, because it would be sad to see yet another valuable staffer quit, regardless the noble reasons... Regards, Micru On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > I have posted my nomination stateme

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

eir obscenities and lies in > India ... TO IMMEDIATELY PROHIBIT ANY FREE INTERNET ACCESS OVER MOBILE > DEVICES .. " [2] > > [1] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/India_Against_Corruption_sock-meatfarm > > [2] > http://trai.gov.in/Comments_Data

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

dministrators across all its projects, > and purge all rogue editors (along with their self serving > so-called""community" policies) who are damaging the credibility of > its projects, including through paid editing. > > David > > [1] > http://www.businessin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

James, I think it is very nice to put measures against paid editing, but it would be nicer to put measures to get editors more free time to edit voluntarily... There are not that many suggestions on how to do it, so it could be that it cannot be done. Cheers, Micru On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:14 AM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

directly? Cheers Micru On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Brion Vibber wrote: > David, you appear to be agreeing strongly with me, not disagreeing. :) > > -- brion > > On Sunday, February 28, 2016, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > > I am starting a new thread because I disa

[Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a *volunteer* organization

I am starting a new thread because I disagree with the idea that the WMF should be a high-tech organization as the other thread by Brion seemed to suggest. Yes, technology is a tool that we use in our mission to gather and process all forms of human knowledge, but in the end the driving force is vo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

On > Behalf Of Ed Saperia > Sent: Friday, 26 February 2016 10:51 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization > > A Wikimedia monastery! ^_^ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 26 Feb 2016, at 08:39, David Cuenca

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What it means to be a high-tech organization

I think there are more ways of supporting volunteers than just paying them cash. For instance another option could be to offer them a place to stay, food and healthcare. That is how many volunteer programs work, like workaway or woofing, and I don't see anything wrong with it. Would it be an accep

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Results of 2015 WMF Board elections

Congratulations to the winners! However I must say that the results of this election are hilarious. The person with the most support votes doesn't win because of oppose votes :D El sáb., 6 de jun. de 2015 3:22, Johan Jönsson escribió: > Congratulations, Dariusz, James and Denny! > > And thanks,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is Phabricator appropriate for managing non-coding projects?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > I'll invite you to a great dinner if you miss MS Project after using > Phabricator in a real Wikimedia activity for more than a month. :) > That is real project management :D No, I don't think I'll miss it so much, perhaps the only thing I *re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is Phabricator appropriate for managing non-coding projects?

need to be complex in order to be effective. Cheers, Micru On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Quim Gil wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > > > > I am looking for a space where I can set up projects like: > > > > -

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Involved people matter; and some hot topics (was: Community health (retitled thread))

Milos, thanks for your long email because it highlights some problems I mentioned already in another long email ("Building a we in the wikimedia movement"). It is in fact hard to deal with social systems, but nevertheless important if we want the movement to survive to itself. The greatest enemy ar

[Wikimedia-l] Is Phabricator appropriate for managing non-coding projects?

Hi, I am looking for a space where I can set up projects like: - clean up a wiki category - set up book scanning tasks - track a survey stages (planning, translation, ad, analysis, etc) Is phabricator a good place for that? I guess that with appropriate project/subproject separation then the t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmcon15] Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

< rodrigo.argen...@gmail.com> wrote: > could you pleas share that on Meta? > > On 30 May 2015 at 06:13, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > > > Dear Asaf and Juan Bautista, > > > > Thanks a lot for your comments, I am glad to have some feedback on these > > ideas

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wmcon15] Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

attend that session, and this > was an interesting read. I would be happy to advise on some of the > proposed ideas if there are people interested in leading them. > >A. > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:04 AM, David Cuenca Tudela > wrote: > > ​ > > > Dear al

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Survey: What do you think of our social media feeds?

Thanks for the initiative! Micru El vie., 29 de may. de 2015 8:53, Hasive Chowdhury escribió: > Just complete the survey. Nice initiative. > > > -Hasive > WMBD > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > > > On 28 May 2015 at 20:57, Fabrice Florin wrote: > > > > > If so, we’d

[Wikimedia-l] Wikisource UG report on the WMCON15

Dear all, I have written a short piece on the WMCON and some interesting aspects about the organizational future of User Groups. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ew8cVJhqqenGUAVVaTQqkisyPyd1tSX-zbVfi-Uuo8U/edit?usp=sharing Cheers, Micru ___ Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of North Carolina Triangle Wikipedians User Group

Congratulations, new user group members! On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Carlos M. Colina wrote: > Dear all, > > On behalf of the Affiliations Committee, I am honored to announce the > recognition [1] of a new User Group in the United States - the North > Carolina Triangle Wikipedians. As thei

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a "we" in the wikimedia movement

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 7:22 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > I don't know how you're going to shoehorn "we" into "Wikimedia movement". > I guess, similar to putting the "me" in "team", it will require > transposing letters? Or perhaps dropping letters altogether (since we[!] > already have a W and several

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a "we" in the wikimedia movement

I third that! However we are entering the field of privacy, because as useful the virtual meetings can be, they might be intrusive if you are in your home and you show your whole house to the world. As long as people are happy about that, then I do not see any problem in increasing the number of m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Building a "we" in the wikimedia movement

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > How can we [l]itigate against this, while making our projects more social? > > Hi Andy, regarding your question I guess there is no definite answer, perhaps it is something inherent to social systems, so in a way there is nothing to be done,

[Wikimedia-l] Building a "we" in the wikimedia movement

During this Wikimedia Conference 2015 there was a paradigm shift in the way problems are expressed. It was highlighted that the wikimedia movement is not only about gathering and sharing knowledge, but also about the people behind it, about finding ways to enhance the togetherness that is created b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing Inspire Campaign Grantees

Liam, that is true, originally I submitted an idea because of the specific topic of the campaign, which later on evolved into a more generic project which could potentially address other kind of issues. BUT, without the original hook, perhaps I would have never submitted anything. I hope the inspi

[Wikimedia-l] Experiences with community living?

Hei ;) These last months I have been visiting and living in several intentional communities to learn and understand what works for me and what doesn't. If done right, it is a great environment to have a simple life full of joy and happiness. I was wondering if anyone else in the WM movement is in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

s an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > On 12 September 2014 13:00, David Cuenca wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > It is nice that there are several official blogs. However it is hard to > > navig

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog network?

Hi, It is nice that there are several official blogs. However it is hard to navigate from blog to blog to discover what is going on at each chapter. Would it make sense to link to all official blogs from http://blog.wikimedia.org/ ? Cheers, Micru ___ W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 4:38 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Pi zero at > writes, "The non-Wikipedian sisters are the growth sector of the > wikimedian movement, and the WMF by dissing them is strangling the > wikimedian movement's best chance of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF<->community disputes about deployments

I think those are wonderful steps and I really hope that the German wikipedians are ready for dialogue. Given the big number of people that might want to answer Lila's questions, shouldn't they be asked in a more public page, or organized in a more international/multilingual way, for a delimited ti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Email from tccgrp, is this legit?

edback! > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, David Cuenca wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I received an unsolicited email stating that "In collaboration with the > > global Wikimedia community, we are working with the Wikimedia Foundation > to > > help moveme

[Wikimedia-l] Email from tccgrp, is this legit?

Hi, I received an unsolicited email stating that "In collaboration with the global Wikimedia community, we are working with the Wikimedia Foundation to help movement organizations understand how they have an impact" and asking me to fill out a survey. However there are no references about which pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

deciding influence for "its" project.. That > clearly pains the picture for me. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 15 August 2014 10:17, David Cuenca wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Keating < > > chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Keating wrote: > how should this be solved? > > To me it's saying that no matter who is informed, the WMF can never expect > that their work won't be overruled. > > That is problematic (regardless of who has the final authority) A first step would be to a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Superprotect user right, Comming to a wiki near you

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David Gerard wrote: > A pattern we see over and over is that the developers talk at length > about what they're working on in several venues, then it's released > and people claiming to speak for the community claim they were not > adequately consulted. Pretty muc

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