Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

Not sure what you mean by common search terms, but if it is about direct translation of search terms to get good SEO ranking it is outside what I'm talking about. That area will vanish completely in a coupe of years. I've replied about medical articles previously, and why this isn't an area where

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

with different > languages. For languages mainly spoken as first language the "sharing > knowledge" aspect is predominant, while the second should take precedence > in languages whose speakers are native speakers of a "bigger" language. > > Vito > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

language totally detached from reality: there's no "encaustic painting" in > Sicilian, still a Sicilian article about Leonardo will invent one. > > As a general principle we should always collect, rather than create, > knowledge. > > Vito > > 2018-02-24 16:30 GMT+

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tached from reality: there's no "encaustic painting" > in > > Sicilian, still a Sicilian article about Leonardo will invent one. > > > > As a general principle we should always collect, rather than create, > > knowledge. > > > > Vito > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

language spoken by >> 40 million people in Eastern India. The amazing thing is that for many of >> these topics this is the first and only information online about it. >> Google >> translate does not even claim to work in this language. Our partnerships >> with WMTW and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

> I think the request for such projects should come from the concerned > language projects, same for the list of articles. If not, in my simple > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again. > > Jean-Philippe Béland > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018

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of articles. If not, in my simple > > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again. > > > > Jean-Philippe Béland > > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:40 AM John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with John that it is very difficult to turn a translator into a new > editor. I also agree with Jean-Philippe that it is key to have involvement > of the local projects and preferable if they lead the efforts. Of the > languages we worked in only one ex

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

: > I think the request for such projects should come from the concerned > language projects, same for the list of articles. If not, in my simple > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again. > > Jean-Philippe Béland > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada > > > On Sat, Feb 24,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

, as the number of editors that can handle those will be pretty small. In particular: Do not believe you can turn a teanslator into a new editor! You can although turn an existing editor into a translator. On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:34 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1) You m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

nslate into Chinese. > There the students translate and than their translations are reviewed by > their profs before being posted. They translate in groups using hackpad to > make it more social. > > I am currently working to re invigorate the project :-) > James > > O

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anguages > translation project. I could use some help drafting guidelines for how to > make priorities for what to translate given limited resources. > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:51 AM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > This discussion is going to b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

necessity if the purpose is to create local communities in the different languages. Think globally, act locally! On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:51 PM, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > This discussion is going to be fun! =D > > A little more than seventy Wikipedia-projects h

[Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

This discussion is going to be fun! =D A little more than seventy Wikipedia-projects has more than 65k articles, the remaining two hundred or so are pretty small. What if a base set of articles were opened for paid translators? There are several lists of such base sets. We have both the thousand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2019

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bybrunnen#Wikimania_2019 On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Sami Mlouhi wrote: > Congratulations Wikimedia Sweden ! > > > 2018-02-08 20:07 GMT+01:00 Tanweer Morshed : > > > Congratulations Wikimedia Sverige!

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

inside their > provider data (because put in the end of a small group of people is > "enough") or that the disaggregated information of CU activity is not > public for the majority of platforms... but someone cares so much if they > receive a welcoming message by bot when the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

C to be similar to a ballot measure, and > I think that it's appropriate for me to say that if I think that there are > problems then I may use tools that are available to me to attempt to > address them, preferably with WMF's cooperation, but without WMF"s > cooperation if necessary a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

If it has been discussed before, then it would be nice if someone can provide a pointer to that discussion. Den ons. 24. jan. 2018, 11.29 skrev Joseph Seddon : > This conversation started in the middle of the Christmas break following > which I suspect many staff took

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Siamese networks and image classification

are the stored models that takes this fingerprint vector and calculates a single output for the probability of a single category. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locality-sensitive_hashing On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > I am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Siamese networks and image classification

are described at Wikipedia. On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 8:16 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > I have not heard of an initiative to use Siamese neural networks for image > classifications on on Commons. You might make a suggestion on the AI, > Research, and/or

[Wikimedia-l] Siamese networks and image classification

is like a fingerprint, and those fingerprints can be compared to other images with known fingerprints, or against a generalized fingerprint for a category. John Erling Blad ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

uld at least some parts be > >> reused > >> across languages in a robust and properly localizable manner? > >> * Is the talk page really a good place to do this? > >> * How useful is it for people for people who come from another language > >> and > >&

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

gt; * Why is it different in every project? Could at least some parts be > reused > > across languages in a robust and properly localizable manner? > > * Is the talk page really a good place to do this? > > * How useful is it for people for p

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

ail.com>: > > > Have you asked the user how the finding the users? > > Have you considered other steps than just jumping to mailing list? > > Where are the complaints from the other users to show this is a long > > running issue? > > > > On 29 December 20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

long > running issue? > > On 29 December 2017 at 19:20, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Users on other projects are complaining about the welcome messages at > > arwiki. A bot at that project are welcoming people that has no activity > at > > that p

[Wikimedia-l] Welcome messages at arwiki

Users on other projects are complaining about the welcome messages at arwiki. A bot at that project are welcoming people that has no activity at that project at all. The bot operator claims the activity is valid, but I can't see that this is a well-behaving bot at all.[1] I suspect the bot is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

en CC0 was first chosen > (i.e., in the April meeting). I won't discuss your other claims here -- the > discussions on the Wikidata list are already doing this, and I agree with > Lydia that no shouting is necessary here. > > Nevertheless, I must at least testify to what John wro

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

Just to make it clear; the discussions at the dev-project was in April-May 2012, linking of wd-items on site late in 29 October 2012 (actually 29. October), Danny told us about his new Google job in January 2013. I believe someone must have gotten this backwards.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

You can copyright an expression about facts, but you can't copyright the facts. In some jurisdictions a collection of facts can be given a special protection, but still the individual facts are not protected. >>A single property licensing scheme would allow storage of data, >>it might or might

Re: [Wikimedia-l] A fundraising banner we'd like to try in a short test

What kind of reasonably new device has that kind of resolution? On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:41 PM, wrote: > Patrik, try it on a 640x480 screen. :P > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 16:06 pajz wrote: > > > > > > > This test would run for 1 to 2 hours, and then we'd

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

For the moment I have virtually zero trust in all involved, including the wmf board. Reorganize and regain trust! John Erling Blad On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Natacha Rault <n.ra...@me.com> wrote: > Hi Maria, thank you. > > Personnally, and as an engaged feminist in re

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The other side of the crisis at WMFR

it is time for reevaluating the role of WMF in this. I'm wondering if there should be a new board for WMF, unless they get a new chair themselves asap. Reorganize, solve the problems, and move on. No, I do not know any of the people involved. John Erling Blad /jeblad On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Identified users

n. Tagging of roles is also outside the scope of my question. On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:17 AM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: > John Erling Blad wrote: > >In some cases it would be a lot easier and/or better if it was possible to > >identify and not just authentica

[Wikimedia-l] Identified users

In some cases it would be a lot easier and/or better if it was possible to identify and not just authenticate an user. This could include such things as turning on real name for identified users, or limiting elevated rights to them, thereby avoiding renomination of banned users. In a lot of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Requiring the interlinking of accounts involved with paid editing

) will start blocking accounts on this terms. Feel free to believe otherwise. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:21 AM, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net> wrote: > > > On 13 Sep 2017, at 22:19, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sorry, but this is a horribly ba

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Requiring the interlinking of accounts involved with paid editing

Sorry, but this is a horribly bad idea, and anyone that try to do what you propose runs a serious legal risk. I guess you will have a few support, but I really hope this will newer be implemented. John On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 3:01 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attribution of external content

is exactly the same, url, date, author, title - > the > > > > refn template can include anything you need to add including license > > > detail > > > > ie cc-by all of which can be internal or external links > > > > > > > > On 28 August 2017 at 00:26, J

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attribution of external content

gt; On 27 August 2017 at 22:22, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Use of a template does not accurately identify the copied text, and in > this > > case nor the author. > > > > The license is the contract with the author and the reason why the text

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attribution of external content

ext licensed cc-by content > within articles > > On 27 August 2017 at 21:28, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > In some cases we need to attribute content created on external sites, and > > reused on Wikimedia-sites. In Norway Åndsverksloven says "The

[Wikimedia-l] Attribution of external content

lve the problem, or is it just another level that makes things more confusing? John Erling Blad ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RFC on wikimedia-l posting limits

some opinions > voiced in this thread indicate people want *more* admin action. > >A. > > On Aug 26, 2017 6:30 PM, "John Erling Blad" <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 1. The list gets popular > 2. The list attracts people > 3. The people sends emails > 4.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RFC on wikimedia-l posting limits

1. The list gets popular 2. The list attracts people 3. The people sends emails 4. Other people reads emails with opinions 5. Other people don't want to read about other peoples opinions 6. Other people want to limit other peoples opinions 7. Admins starts to wonder how to limit emails 8. Admins

[Wikimedia-l] RFC on wikimedia-l posting limits

four proposals, but will refrain from enacting any proposal receiving more opposition than support. -- John Vandenberg ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

t; > > the strategy of the movement into its third and fourth decades? Surely > > by > > > now there is a clear, concise and actionable agreed definition of > > knowledge > > > that we can point to when people ask what all that money has been and > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

dge then we need to be free as communities to address the > uniqueness of the knowledge we seek within the bounds of culture(language) > from which it originates > > > ​ > > > On 9 August 2017 at 04:12, Jean-Philippe Béland <jpbel...@wikimedia.ca> > wrote: > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

No, _verifiability_ can't be different, but _acceptance_ of oral sources can be different. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Jean-Philippe Béland <jpbel...@wikimedia.ca > wrote: > Verifiability can be very different. For example oral sources. > > JP > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017, 0

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

M, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2017-08-08 12:20 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com>: > > Policy should not have local variations, unless you want to create > > something different from Wikipedia. > > Each version of Wikipedia is a different

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

history to focus on their own local view. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:20 AM, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote: > its the cultural differences that influence the policy, so who's culture is > more significant than everyone elses that will dictate the policies. > > On 8 August 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

e” but local and very > > subjective. > > > > On 4 August 2017 at 10:18, Ziko van Dijk <zvand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The number of pillars depends on the language version... > > And whether some rules is called pilöar not dpes not seem to be pf much > &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

not when they are common by > coincidence. > Cheers, > Peter > > -Original Message- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On > Behalf Of John Erling Blad > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 1:06 PM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

e that project goes live, ince a > project is live it has to be allowed to develop its community. > > We already have the 5 pillars which are the basis for the projects, but > meta is not a place that the content creating community spends a lot of > time. > > On 3 August 2017

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

ch more difficult for small > communities. > > Strainu > > 2017-08-02 17:05 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com>: > > Nearly all Wikipedia projects has virtually the same core content > policies, > > but with slightly different wording. Nearly all, be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

these will > get changed and the new policy will become via a forced cascade to the > communities. I for one could never support any process being created as a > means to take away from the community its own solutions > > On 3 August 2017 at 15:33, John Erling Blad <jeb..

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Without common core policies they can not claim that the projects stick within their boundaries. Is a project without a clear policy on "no original research", "verifiability" and "neutral point of view" Wikipedia? Is it enough to just say it is "Wikipedia" to be "Wikipedia"? I believe there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

I used Wikipedia as an example, I would not expect core content policy from Wikipedia to be a good fit for Wikivoyage. Still Wikivoyage could have common ploicies on Meta the same way Wikipedia would do. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > On Wed,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

umber, i.e. English, > will impose their rules to other communities. It's a basic fundamental > principle of Wikimedia projects since the beginning that every community is > independant, > > JP > > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:19 PM John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

> > Thanks > > Tito Dutta > > Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to > remind > > me over email or phone call. > > > > On 2 August 2017 at 19:35, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Nearly all Wik

[Wikimedia-l] Core content policy

Nearly all Wikipedia projects has virtually the same core content policies, but with slightly different wording. Nearly all, because a lot of the smaller lacks them, and a lot has outdated or only partial policies. It takes a lot of time to actually make them and keep them updated. Creating and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Amazon Echo' use of Wikipedia; CC license compliance?

rg/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- John Vanden

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Sverige vs. the Visual Copyright Society in Sweden (BUS)

ympa-det-offentliga-rummet-istaellet-foer-att-gaa-paa-wikimedia-sveriges-linje-1360834> - A timeline of what has happened: https://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Offentligkonst.se/Stämning Best, John - - - - John Andersson Executive Director Wikimedia Sverige Phone: +46(0)73-3965189 <073-396%20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising pilot on Facebook

will be done by Middle Seat <http://middleseat.co/>, and not that it is former staff member Zack Exley's company. Is there a requirement that this consulting job will culminate in a published and openly licensed report by Middle Seat? Regards, John On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Samuel Patton

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

David Cuenca Tudela, Looking at the proposed grant you only asked for 36000, you get that, then you decided that the WMF is being greedy and you now want more money. If you need 72,000 should not your initial request realized that and adjusted the requesting amount accordingly? I will also note

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

Blocking a registered user on TOR is not different from blocking a registered user outside TOR. 5. jun. 2017 21.02 skrev "John" <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com>: > Im not going to violate BEANS, but even allowing accounts to edit without > further hurdles isn't going to work. Be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

tion as well, > but you can sign in an edit. > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 7:47 PM, John <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > enabling read access via Tor shouldn't be an issue, however editing > should > > not be allowed due to high volume of known abuse from that v

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

tion as well, > but you can sign in an edit. > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 7:47 PM, John <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > enabling read access via Tor shouldn't be an issue, however editing > should > > not be allowed due to high volume of known abuse from that v

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's set up a Tor onion service for Wikipedia

enabling read access via Tor shouldn't be an issue, however editing should not be allowed due to high volume of known abuse from that vector. On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:43 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Editing may be a tricky one, particularly on en:wp, which has found > Tor exit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Tech Talk: Wikimedia Foundation Technology and Product Q Session #2

years from now? >> >> >> Looking forward to your presence! >> >> Best, >> Srishti >> >> -- >> Srishti Sethi >> Developer Advocate >> Technical Collaboration team >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

ons. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks, > > >>> Pharos > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal < > > >>> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Content tr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

;> bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Content translation with Yandex is also a problem in Bengali Wikipedia. > >>>> Some users have grown a tendency to create machine translated > >>>> meaningless > >>>> articles wit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

ble to > do it. Maybe it could be an extension to ORES itself. I've seen language models implemented as neural nets, but it is not necessary to do it like that. Actually it is more common to do it with plain statistics. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Turn the extension for ContentTranslation off?

I don't think it is useful to discuss projects and people, discuss processes and fixes. On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> wrote: > Hi John, > > Could you provide a bit more context? From which language are you drawing > these experiences

Re: [Wikimedia-l] machine translation

sable in "some" context. We translate a text for the purpose of republishing it. The text should be usable and easily readable in that language. On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > 2017-05-02 18:20 GMT+03:00 John Erling Blad

[Wikimedia-l] Turn the extension for ContentTranslation off?

Yes, I wonder if the extension for content translation should be turned off. Not because it is really bad, but because it allows creating translations that isn't quite good enough, and those translations creates fierce internal fighting between contributors. Some people use CT, and makes fairly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [PRESS] Turkish authorities block Wikipedia

Thanks for the update! I guess people will support WMFs decisions in this case! John On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Juliet Barbara <jbarb...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Thank you, everyone, for your messages regarding the situation in Turkey. > As you can imagine, this has been a ve

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

Definitly part of the overall quality. I wonder, do you have any stats om how much positive change the previous attempts have triggered? Den man. 17. apr. 2017, 02.04 skrev Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org>: > Hi John, > > This may be of interest to you: > > We ar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

for subjective quality assessment. On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:04 PM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote: > John, the AROWF project GSoC student implemented your proposal last year: > > https://github.com/priyankamandikal/arowf/blob/master/backlog.py > > She also used WikiWho to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

Sorry for the sprellig, I write this on a mobile with Norwegian spellchecker. Gerrards last question is about coverage, and bias, which is part of the overall quality for the project as such. Den søn. 16. apr. 2017, 19.22 skrev John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com>: > I wrote a propo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

GeonamesallCountries.jpg > > On 16 April 2017 at 18:59, Ziko van Dijk <zvand...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello John, > > > > Article quality is an interesting subject. I guess that it depends > > extremely on what is the scientific discipline you come f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

Textual and factual quality are different. Often we spellcheck an article and claim it to be of good quality, but I believe that is the lesser problem although it is part of the overall quality. Den søn. 16. apr. 2017, 18.59 skrev Ziko van Dijk <zvand...@gmail.com>: > Hello John, &g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

ther automation. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 15 April 2017 at 23:50, John Erling Blad <jeb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Are anyone doing any work on automated quality assurance of articles? Not > > the ORES-stuff, that is about creating hints from measured featur

[Wikimedia-l] Quality assurance of articles

Are anyone doing any work on automated quality assurance of articles? Not the ORES-stuff, that is about creating hints from measured features. I'm thinking about verifying existence and completeness of citations, and structure of logical arguments. John

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

The focus should not be what some users want to call other users, but on what users want to call themselves. " I cannot accept the status quo where some minorities feel excluded by our systems and policies, but I don't have to, as we are not standing still." Then I think you should reconsider.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

I believe the best way to describe people is as accurately, and neutral as possible, following the grammatical and cultural rules within the community, and especially to address them as they chose themselves. Note that we use grammatical gender, we do not address people with sexual gender. On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

Sorry to people from Bergen, girls from Bergen is masculine - "jenten". I wonder if we can blame that on the Germans, "mädchen" is neutrum, perhaps they messed up the local language during the Hansa-period. On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:49 PM, John Erling Blad <

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's go gender neutral

There are a lot of languages where there are no neutral gender, or where there are a single male gender, or it can even be that the only neutral gender is used for things and animals. In German there is an expectation of gender-correct form. In Norwegian there is an expectation of a neutral form.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

As a programmer myself I understand that free vs non-free causes more work for you. However you cannot ignore one of the foundations of the wikimedia movement because it makes a little more work for you. I honestly don't understand why you thought that Apple maps would be acceptable at all. You

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Using non-free elements vs our values (Apple Maps vs Wikipedia iOS app)

This reminds me of en wiki's non-free policy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Non-free_content_criteria#1 highlights the point fairly clearly Usage of non-free materials is often easier and higher quality than using the free equivalent . However Wikimedia's mission and goal's are to

[Wikimedia-l] Termodynamics and social capital

Has anyone tried to use termodynamics on social capital within Wikipedia? Over investment in social capital and negative specific heat might create unstable systems, that is people will leave the community. There is a book on the topic; A Dynamic Balance: Social Capital and Sustainable Community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks of new accounts in Angola?

I cannot locate the original block in question but https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/block=User%3A105.172.16.0%2F20 is now affecting the IP in question and it does look related to the copyright violation issue previously brought up in this thread. On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 6:16

Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"

ho have had a good education and very comfortable lives, with a high quality Wikipedia in their own language. Those facts also underscore how far we are away from reaching our mission, and encourage us to re-focus on the mission and make us pause before getting too involved in problems that are not c

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Blocks of new accounts in Angola?

Let's wait and see what the IP info says. Might be case of an ISP routing everyone thru a single public IP. Or it might be a range block due to ip hoping disruption. On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 8:11 AM Vi to wrote: > Yep, none of them implied massive and preventive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

Add WMF-straff to a specific category, and make it possible to filter out users with a specific group within a category. Then forget the whole spreadsheet. Case closed. On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Vi to wrote: > AffCom has nothing to do with this kind of issue, most

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF advanced permissions for employees

uidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-r

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

It is common to refer to those that cooperated with the Nazis during WWII as "kollaboratører" (kollaborators) in Norwegian too. https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kollaborat%C3%B8r Translating between languages are fun! =) John 13. feb. 2017 09.08 skrev "Jane Darnell"

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moderation notice

Gerard, ... he has good points too, even if he is stubborn like a mule - like the rest og us! ;) 11. feb. 2017 19.49 skrev "Asaf Bartov" : > Hello, everyone. > > I share the opinion that moderation actions should be transparent. So: > > I have now placed Gerard Meijssen on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Positions open for strategy coordinator contractors.

In Scandinavia there are a bunch of closely related languages, they are often referred to as North Germanic Languages.[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Germanic_languages] Icelandic and Faroese language is often referred to as Insular Scandinavian, West Norwegian, or Old West Norse, and is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: Abraham Taherivand appointed permanent Executive Director

Ha ha! Now he must wear a neck tie every day! =D On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Anna Torres wrote: > On behalf of Wikimedia Argentina! Congrats Abraham! > > Hope to start working with you soon! > > Hugs! > > 2017-01-30 13:21 GMT-03:00 Sydney Poore

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

I for one would really, really, really like to see full backup of all data to servers outside USA, if necessary with anonymized contributors. A first step would be to store digests for the revisions on alternate servers, and make it possible to double check the validity of the content. That is, a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

t; On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:39 PM, John <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Im not sure you are reading section 14 correctly. It makes reference to > > Privacy Act (Privacy Act of 1974) and the privacy policy of the federal > > agencies involved in immigration enforc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Concerns in general

Im not sure you are reading section 14 correctly. It makes reference to Privacy Act (Privacy Act of 1974) and the privacy policy of the federal agencies involved in immigration enforcement and law enforcement agencies. IE the government can freely share information between agencies with regards to

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