Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-15 Thread Pine W
It's nice to hear of these changes. Thanks, Andreas and Lisa. Pine On Nov 15, 2015 5:52 AM, "Andreas Kolbe" wrote: > Hi Anna, > > Thanks for your note. For what it's worth, Lisa Seitz Gruwell[1] said[2] a > couple of days ago on Meta, in response to Liam Wyatt, > > > Thanks for the feedback. I t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-15 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Hi Anna, Thanks for your note. For what it's worth, Lisa Seitz Gruwell[1] said[2] a couple of days ago on Meta, in response to Liam Wyatt, > Thanks for the feedback. I think you are referring to language about "keeping Wikipedia ad-free." We have taken that language out of the banner. She added,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-14 Thread Anna Stillwell
Andreas, Thank you for this positive feedback. I can't comment on future banner messages because I don't have the requisite knowledge. Here's where we are right now... I've seen Megan and the fundraising team really apply themselves on this concern. They've interviewed many people and they are s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-14 Thread Pine W
By the way, was there any follow up at WMF to Risker's suggestion from awhile ago that its budget get a peer review from a similarly situated organization? I've taken a peek at the discussions in the current round of FDC proposals. I have some concerns about WMF staff critiquing the budgets of aff

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-13 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I see that the fundraising banners currently running in Germany[1][2] no longer speak of "keeping Wikipedia online and ad-free", but instead encourage people to "give something back to Wikipedia" if they find it useful. That is a much, much better wording. Thank you. I trust the English banners th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-05 Thread Pine W
I was happy to see increasing net assets and increasing revenue. The fundraising messages that WMF sends should to reflect the facts about where the money will go and about the current financial status of WMF. I've been told by someone whose history with the Wikimedia community is longer than mine

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On October 30, the Wikimedia Foundation posted its audited financial statements for the year ended June 30, 2015. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/0/0b/Audit_Report_-_FY_14-15_-_Final.PDF The figures contained in these statements have a bearing on the present discussion. Some hig

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-04 Thread Pine W
I'd rather see an honest onlinr fundraising campaign for a longer period of time than an ethically questionable one for a shorter period of time. On the cost side, I continue to have reservations about the WMF's location in San Francisco. I get the impression that the staff like the location, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-04 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
What gnangarra has wroten is soo true... 100% agree > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:23:29 +0800 > From: gnanga...@gmail.com > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update > > I think the PR people really need to be more reflective in the rea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-03 Thread Gnangarra
I think the PR people really need to be more reflective in the reasons and uses of the donations in their messages because its rather easy to show the inconsistancy between the message and the use of donated funds... IMHO some of the drop off in donations is due to this lack reflectivity in the mes

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-11-03 Thread Pine W
(Sorry, something went awry with my mail client. Let's try this again to keep the thread intact). Besides what readers think when they're fully informed, I'm also concerned about the legal issues surrounding the fundraising. IANAL, but I have a feeling that consumer protection attorneys may take a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-29 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Lisa Gruwell wrote: > So, we have drilled down on this more in our research to better > understand what our readers think on this topic. We should have more to > share on that in a week or two. > What readers think about this topic will very much depend on what

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-29 Thread Pine W
Thanks for following up. Regarding the topline number: given the issues that happened with the 2015-2016 WMF annual plan, I am wondering if WMF Finance can start planning early for 2016-2017 around with the following goals. These are some brainstorms, other people may want to add their own suggest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-29 Thread Lisa Gruwell
Sure, Pine. I am happy offer some thoughts: The two main challenges for the online fundraising team are the decrease in page views in the countries where we raise the most funds and the shift from desktop to mobile, where the donation rate and the donation size are much smaller. In response to t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-28 Thread Pine W
Fundraising folks, can we get an update in response to the concerns raised in this thread? Thanks, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: ht

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-16 Thread Peter Southwood
t: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update Dear everyone, The ad industry took ages to reckon they were messing things up¹, looking only at how much money they were earning. I sincerely hope WMF's fundraising is not following the same path. I wouldn't be honest if I didn't write that year

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-16 Thread Jérémie Roquet
Dear everyone, The ad industry took ages to reckon they were messing things up¹, looking only at how much money they were earning. I sincerely hope WMF's fundraising is not following the same path. I wouldn't be honest if I didn't write that year after year, I find the fundraising banners more int

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-15 Thread James Heilman
I agree that the WMF needs to slow its growth and look at stabilizing around its currently level of funding. Continuing to grow at 20% is simply not sustainable while maintaining our values and our reputation. I am not yet sure what the rest of the board's position is on this matter but I share man

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-15 Thread Erik Zachte
t: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update +1 -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Kolbe Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2015 7:01 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update On Fri, Oct 9

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-15 Thread Peter Southwood
+1 -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Kolbe Sent: Wednesday, 14 October 2015 7:01 PM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Leila Zia wrote: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-14 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Leila Zia wrote: > I saw that banner and I want to do all I can to help you not use it even if > it performs 20% better. I put my story in p.s. so it's easier to skip for > whoever chooses to skip. This is a true story. :-\ > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Pete

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-11 Thread Mathias Damour
Le 10/10/2015 18:43, Toby Negrin a écrit : Hi Folks -- I would suggest that if you are unhappy with the banners you apply your energy to the annual planning process[1]. As long as the budget goes up 20% year over year and page views fall, the Fundraising team will need to crank up the banners.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-10 Thread Pine W
Hi Toby, I asked several questions about this year's Annual Plan, only some of which received responses even after multiple pings from me, so I regret to say that I get the impression that community questions and input on the annual plan may be brushed aside. I wish that the situation was differen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-10 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Leila Zia wrote: > Thank you for the update and all the hard work the team has done during Q1. > My comments below. > Thanks likewise, Megan. I'm always impressed by your team's work. > > Better performing banners are required > > to raise a higher budget with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-10 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Lodewijk, On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:20 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > > I'm a little confused though, so I hope you (or someone else) can clarify > something for me: what does a campaign look like these days? Because I'm > seeing banners all year round (I live in the Netherlands, maybe that makes > a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-10 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Toby, On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Toby Negrin wrote: > Hi Folks -- > > I would suggest that if you are unhappy with the banners you apply your > energy to the annual planning process[1]. As long as the budget goes up 20% > year over year and page views fall, the Fundraising team will nee

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-10 Thread Toby Negrin
Hi Folks -- I would suggest that if you are unhappy with the banners you apply your energy to the annual planning process[1]. As long as the budget goes up 20% year over year and page views fall, the Fundraising team will need to crank up the banners. It's worth pointing out that Fundraising is o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-10 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Megan, Thanks for sharing the update. I'm a little confused though, so I hope you (or someone else) can clarify something for me: what does a campaign look like these days? Because I'm seeing banners all year round (I live in the Netherlands, maybe that makes a difference), every now and then.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-09 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 9 October 2015 at 22:58, Megan Hernandez wrote: > All of these community suggestions remain in the banner. Another sentence > that was briefly tested on a small percentage of users about a year ago > that received negative community feedback was “If everyone reading this > gave $3, we could ke

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-09 Thread Pete Forsyth
I want to be clear about my previous message -- I am not questioning any individual person's integrity in the process, and I know from firsthand experience that a tremendous amount of good work goes into this stuff. But I think the process that has evolved around developing the campaign is broken.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-09 Thread Pete Forsyth
I agree, that banner does not reflect the values of this movement. Pure and simple; it's not a grey area, and not worth my time to discuss for the 97th time. Personally, I long ago gave up participating in these discussions, for the most part -- because the same valid points get made over and over

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-09 Thread Leila Zia
Hi Megan, Thank you for the update and all the hard work the team has done during Q1. My comments below. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Megan Hernandez wrote: > The team has used this first quarter to test a wide variety of brand new > banners. From images, to banners highlighting photos from

[Wikimedia-l] Q1 Fundraising Update

2015-10-09 Thread Megan Hernandez
Hi all, There's a new Q1 fundraising update on meta and posted here as well. The Wikimedia Foundation has just wrapped up the first quarter of the 2015-16 fiscal year. Over these past three months, the fundraising team has been run