Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Shiju Alex wrote: > Another strategy that we can adopt while doing this program in India is, > about the selection of articles for editing. We can ask students to > contribute to articles that they are interested in, rather than of all of > them editing the article

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On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote: > > > > hi, >> >> It was a pilot and hence I guess was meant to die at some point. >> >> First up, to the Campus Ambassadors, you guys showed a lot of courage in >> taking up and then following through on your commitment of being Campus >> Amba

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition

Hi all, Thanks for sharing your views. I will share my response after the Wiki conference is over. For now, all the best for the event. Ravi On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala wrote: > Hi Ravi, > > Thanks for your email. Tinu's response has captured some keypoints behind > th

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On Nov 13, 2011, at 12:07 AM, Swaroop Rao wrote: > That's true Arjun, there is a lot of interest in this program in many > colleges, and this is going untapped. No, its not dead for sure. It was a > pilot, and it didn't come out pretty; no issues, that's how we learn. I think > that one thing

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:36 PM, Arjun mangol wrote: > Hey all, > > I refuse to believe it dead as of yet. There's yet a lot of avenues that > haven't been explored. My personal suggestion was that let IEP establish a > Wikipedia Club in every college in Pune to begin with, that would inculcate

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

On Nov 13, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Shiju Alex wrote: > Another strategy that we can adopt while doing this program in India is, > about the selection of articles for editing. We can ask students to > contribute to articles that they are interested in, rather than of all of > them editing the article

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:18 PM, Arnav Sonara wrote: > > > Thanks to all of you, yes this was a Pilot, but at no point I see it dying. > Its just that we have taken a pause right now to learn from the findings and > ll come back all prepared and with the help of you all we ll try to gain new >

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 10:39 PM, Pradeep Mohandas wrote: > hi, > > It was a pilot and hence I guess was meant to die at some point. > > First up, to the Campus Ambassadors, you guys showed a lot of courage in > taking up and then following through on your commitment of being Campus > Ambassado

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Surya Prakash wrote: > From Bala's words... > > //Online Ambassadors/mentors are not handholders and error correctors. I > signed up to be an online ambassador. But stopped reading the IEP mails that > were sent to me after i realised, that the IEP program essenti

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

Thanks Shiju. I raised same points yesterday , in Malayalam wikimedia list , in a related thread. Thanks for bringing this discussion here Anivar On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Shiju Alex wrote: > Another strategy that we can adopt while doing this program in India is, > about the selection o

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 8:04 PM, Swaroop Rao wrote: > Also, it seems that CoEP has most of the problems; I think that CoEP being an > engineering college, is more rigid in its working than other > science/commerce/liberal arts colleges. What we could do is branch out into > other streams (other t

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 7:37 PM, wrote: > Iv used turnitin during my MBA and can say that Iv seen people upload their > projects there, note where the software catches them, change the language in > that part and re-submit. People will go to any lengths .. > We do need to work on something goi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On Nov 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 18:56, Hisham wrote: > That's not accurate. The dates are as follows: It was concluded in all but > 1 class of Symbiosis School of Economics a few weeks ago (because the > assignements were concluded.) It c

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On Nov 12, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Bala Jeyaraman wrote: > >>Many of us went through college recently know its not *Some*, its *Most*. > >>Anything called assignment and graded will be copy-pasted even by the > >>brightest 5% of students in class who would have potential to do on their > >>own. > >

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Topics for my talk @wikiconference India

Barry, In last Wikimania, Jimmy Wales gave a "Global Wikipedian of the year" award for the phenomenal work done in Khazak Wiki. http://en.tengrinews.kz/internet/3813/ But, we couldn't learn in detail about their work. Similarly, there will be many growing global Wikipedia communities that face

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot

Another strategy that we can adopt while doing this program in India is, about the selection of articles for editing. We can ask students to contribute to articles that they are interested in, rather than of all of them editing the articles on the same topic. The reason I am telling this is, In In

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

That's true Arjun, there is a lot of interest in this program in many colleges, and this is going untapped. No, its not dead for sure. It was a pilot, and it didn't come out pretty; no issues, that's how we learn. I think that one thing we learnt is that the US model may not work out well for India

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

Hey all, I refuse to believe it dead as of yet. There's yet a lot of avenues that haven't been explored. My personal suggestion was that let IEP establish a Wikipedia Club in every college in Pune to begin with, that would inculcate new, interested members who have a genuine passion for the projec

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

hi, > > It was a pilot and hence I guess was meant to die at some point. > > First up, to the Campus Ambassadors, you guys showed a lot of courage in > taking up and then following through on your commitment of being Campus > Ambassadors through the length of this Pilot. I hope the team will also >

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

hi, It was a pilot and hence I guess was meant to die at some point. First up, to the Campus Ambassadors, you guys showed a lot of courage in taking up and then following through on your commitment of being Campus Ambassadors through the length of this Pilot. I hope the team will also speak to th

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mails getting queued

Mark the senders as "whitelisted" <- worked with WMPT mailing list when we had this _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mails getting queued

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 15:15, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > For some reasons, lot of mails are getting queued for "Message has a > suspicious header" and needs manual approval since yesterday(which is why > you might have noted emails coming in bulk). Please note there will be > delay in delivery

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

>From Bala's words... //Online Ambassadors/mentors are not handholders and error correctors. I signed up to be an online ambassador. But stopped reading the IEP mails that were sent to me after i realised, that the IEP program essentially wanted to me to do the students' work. // Sure. We can (OA

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Also, it seems that CoEP has most of the problems; I think that CoEP being an engineering college, is more rigid in its working than other science/commerce/liberal arts colleges. What we could do is branch out into other streams (other than engineering I mean); Law for example: Why not have law stu

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WCI] Registrations Closed

Would like to thank the community for this unprecedented response, we never expected to sell out when this event was on the drawing board! We hope to live upto your expectations. Kind Regards, From: srik@gmail.com Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:47:12 +0530 To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.

[Wikimediaindia-l] [WCI] Registrations Closed

Hi all, We have closed the registrations for the conference. Thank you for your interest and looking forward to seeing you at conference. If you have missed registering, see you at next conference. :) -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 19:33, Bala Jeyaraman wrote: > >>Many of us went through college recently know its not *Some*, its > *Most*. Anything called assignment and graded will be copy-pasted even by > the brightest 5% of students in class who would have potential to do on > their own. > > +1. wi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

Iv used turnitin during my MBA and can say that Iv seen people upload their projects there, note where the software catches them, change the language in that part and re-submit. People will go to any lengths .. Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:33:12 +0530 From: sodabot...@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 18:56, Hisham wrote: > > That's not accurate. The dates are as follows: It was concluded in all > but 1 class of Symbiosis School of Economics a few weeks ago (because the > assignements were concluded.) It continues in 1 class at this college and > at 1 class at the SND

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>>Many of us went through college recently know its not *Some*, its *Most*. Anything called assignment and graded will be copy-pasted even by the brightest 5% of students in class who would have potential to do on their own. +1. with Srikanth This is the SINGLE MOST important thing to remember fo

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On Nov 12, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Gautam John wrote: >> > > Fair enough. Just that at the scale the India program will run at, a > technology solution might very well be a easier first step than human > interventions. If we can't manage the scale (as we couldn't in this pilot), then we will reduce

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Topics for my talk @wikiconference India

Warm welcome to India barry, hope this'd be like a homecoming for you as you have been closely associated with several programs in India. And about suggestions from Indian Wikipedians, i'd request you to put few words about your understanding and suggestions about regional communities in different

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On Nov 12, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Swaroop Rao wrote: > > We used to have this mainspace-sandbox debate in the US Public Policy program > last semester, and we decided that the aim of the program was students > getting hands on community experience, and editing first in sandbox will not > give that

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On Nov 12, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Gautam John wrote: > > Srikantha, thanks for posting this. I did not know about it till you > posted it and I am sure there are many like me. It is worrying but at > the same time offers us a chance to make things better for the future. Apologies, Gautam, Srikanth an

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On 12 November 2011 18:55, Swaroop Rao wrote: > It used to be easier to spot copyvios on English Wikipedia earlier, but due > to some issues with Google, the bot which detected the copyvios (CorenBot) > is no longer running, though I have come to understand that Jimmy and Coren > are having talks

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

Our mails coincided, Srikanth, but my comments inline. hisham On Nov 12, 2011, at 6:10 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > Hi all, > > If you are not aware of it yet, India Education Program Pilot died around a > week back[1] and a post mortem was done on Signpost[2]. I wonder if we > Indians li

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

It used to be easier to spot copyvios on English Wikipedia earlier, but due to some issues with Google, the bot which detected the copyvios (CorenBot) is no longer running, though I have come to understand that Jimmy and Coren are having talks with Google on this. We used to have this mainspace-sa

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

On 12 November 2011 18:10, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > If you are not aware of it yet, India Education Program Pilot died around a > week back[1] and a post mortem was done on Signpost[2]. I wonder if we > Indians like to only rejoice success's and keep silence when we fail. Srikantha, thanks f

[Wikimediaindia-l] Update on India Education Program

I thought I'd share with you a couple of links that are of relevance to the India Education Program. As you are aware, we are running a pilot of the education program in Pune. We are collating hard numbers to evaluate the pilot - and we'll share a full evaluation as soon as it is ready. Howev

[Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot -- #DelayedMail

Hi all, If you are not aware of it yet, India Education Program Pilot died around a week back[1] and a post mortem was done on Signpost[2]. I wonder if we Indians like to only rejoice success's and keep silence when we fail. One could have acknowledged the death on this list. It didnt happen. Bad.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] INR in 2011 Fundraising!! -- Finally

Sorry, wrong link. the right one is: https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHAL/en _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento human

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] INR in 2011 Fundraising!! -- Finally

Achal appeal is here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHA The other one is a text for the banner (it seems) because has no appeal associate to it. _ *Béria Lima* (351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a poss

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] INR in 2011 Fundraising!! -- Finally

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Béria Lima wrote: > Already possible to see Indian people in the banners (they at least were > doing test with) > > Achal: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/view&template=B_FRDRILL6_1012_ACHAL > > Srikeit Tadepalli: > http://met

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WikiConference-India 2011] Fw: WikiConference India 2011/Statistics

Hi Mandar, We want to make that automated for wikipedia and all wikimedia projects... dont know whom to contact. Thanks, Naveen Francis On 11 November 2011 13:57, Mandar Kulkarni wrote: > Can somebody correct the data in the 1st link pl. .. ( > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConferenc

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indian Language wikipedia Statistics – 2011 September

Thanks Shiju for putting this together !!! Waiting for more statistics on other Wikimedia projects like Wiktionary, Wikisource Wikibooks ... :-) Wiktionary 1. Bengali 2. Divehi 3. Gujarati 4. Hindi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Topics for my talk @wikiconference India

Hi Barry, Warm welcome to India !!! Thanks, naveenpf On 12 November 2011 00:10, Adethya Sudarsanan wrote: > Hey Barry, > > Greetings. Glad you are making your presence to India conference and > delivering a talk. Cant wait to to hear your words. > > IMO, I think it would be nice, if your talk

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

Glad to hear that, will definitely help programs in India. Swaroop Rao (MikeLynch ) Steering committee, United States Education Program On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:24, Deepon Saha wrote: > Congrats Hisham, Looking forward to the new programs... :)

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust

This is indeed a great success, First India chapter registration, then first office outside US in Delhi, 1st India WikiConference and then this. Hopng for the best success. On 12 November 2011 10:24, Deepon Saha wrote: > Congrats Hisham, Looking forward to the new programs... :) > > Deepon > > >