[Wikitech-l] How to put Googla Ad at the right side of the article?

2009-03-01 Thread Lei Jiang
How to put Google Ad at the right side of the article? Besides, I only want to show Ad when the user is read the article, but don't want the ad to appear in the discussion, edit, and history page. Thanks! Lei Jiang __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature da

Re: [Wikitech-l] How to calculate word count in an article according to contributors?

2009-03-01 Thread Lei Jiang
Thank you Robert, In fact what I want is a mechanism to evaluate the contribution of every author. What I think now is to compute the word count of every author, then the system could give a score to them. Is there a better way to evaluate the contribution of the authors? Thanks! Lei Jiang --

[Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread ChrisiPK
Hi everyone, there is a discussion going on on Commons about a rollback policy. This involves deciding how users should be given this permission. We have been discussing autopromotion, but Andrew told us on IRC that he thinks it's not possible to revoke autopromoted rights. Revoking rollback p

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, ChrisiPK wrote: > there is a discussion going on on Commons about a rollback policy. This > involves deciding how users should be given this permission. We have > been discussing autopromotion, but Andrew told us on IRC that he thinks > it's not possible to revoke a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread Techman224
On 1-Mar-09, at 3:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, ChrisiPK wrote: >> there is a discussion going on on Commons about a rollback policy. >> This >> involves deciding how users should be given this permission. We have >> been discussing autopromotion, but Andrew told

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/1 Techman224 : > Or it can be done like FlaggedRevs did with the Editor group. Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard methods of granting them. ___ Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with > promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard > methods of granting them. FlaggedRevs, instead of improving the existing autopromote architecture, decided t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread ChrisiPK
Thomas Dalton schrieb: > 2009/3/1 Techman224 : >> Or it can be done like FlaggedRevs did with the Editor group. > > Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with > promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard > methods of granting them. Not quite. Have a lo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/3/1 Andrew Garrett : > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with >> promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard >> methods of granting them. > > FlaggedRevs, instead of improving the existin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > FlaggedRevs, instead of improving the existing autopromote > architecture, decided to create its own with the ability to revoke > autopromoted groups. It would have been nice if, instead of > implementing this in an extension which had nothin

Re: [Wikitech-l] Autopromotion and revoking

2009-03-01 Thread Techman224
On 1-Mar-09, at 5:21 PM, Andrew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> Which was? I didn't thing FlaggedRevs had anything to do with >> promotions, it just has a few permissions and you use the standard >> methods of granting them. > > FlaggedRevs, instead of

[Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
What's the holdup in the flagged revisions trial on en:wp? - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, David Gerard wrote: > What's the holdup in the flagged revisions trial on en:wp? Is there a bug? -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 --- Note: This e-mail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails sent to this address will probably get lost. __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Casey Brown : > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> What's the holdup in the flagged revisions trial on en:wp? > Is there a bug? Is that the actual requirement for it to happen? (Are you stating this authoritatively, or as a hypothesis? I'm looking for the authorita

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:49 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Is that the actual requirement for it to happen? (Are you stating this > authoritatively, or as a hypothesis? I'm looking for the authoritative > answer.) The developers do not normally do configuration changes without a bug (even trivial ones

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > Is there a bug? More significantly, is there evidence of community consensus? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Aryeh Gregor : > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Casey Brown wrote: >> Is there a bug? > More significantly, is there evidence of community consensus? There was a poll which came out about 59%:41% in favour, then Jimbo loudly and publicly requested that it be switched on. There's been

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > The developers do not normally do configuration changes without a bug > (even trivial ones, which this one certainly isn't...).  They're used > to document the request, requester, to make sure that the change was > authorized by the community, t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Jason Schulz
Remember that Brion needs specific parameters for this to be activated. Is there an agreement on which of the various proposals to use? A concise page with the consensus implementation details needs to made on-wiki or on bugzilla. I'm guessing it's some form of "Flagged Protection". -Aaron ---

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are requests for the developers that do have a bug in Bugzilla. The creation for the Pontic Wikipedia has been waiting for 61 days now. You are right that it is amazing that things do not get done. It is however the norm. It is not considered to be acceptable, even Brion has said so on d

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:17 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/3/2 Aryeh Gregor : >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > >>> Is there a bug? > >> More significantly, is there evidence of community consensus? > > > There was a poll which came out about 59%:41% in favour, then Jimbo >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Andrew Garrett : > It isn't clear that the configuration change will be made. Jimmy has > very little authority (if any) over technical matters, other than that > of a board member, and 59% has never been enough to justify a > configuration change. If you ask me, the change could be justi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Gerard Meijssen : > At issue is that there are always _urgent_ things that need to be done that > prevent the _ordinary_ requests from being done. There is no rea; urgency > for enabling flagged revisions, not more so then for the creation of the > Pontic Wikipedia. So please wait in line

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As a member of the language committee I can authoritatively state that the request for a Pontic Wikipedia has been waiting for 60 days. The request fro a Finnish Wikiversity has been waiting for 50 days. I have talked with Brion about this at Fosdem, and he acknowledged that operational issues

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Gerard Meijssen : > As a member of the language committee I can authoritatively state that the I meant concerning procedures to actually get things to happen. Thanks for your help. - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia

[Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2009-03-01 Thread reporter
MediaWiki Bugzilla Report for February 23, 2009 - March 02, 2009 Status changes this week Bugs NEW : 146 Bugs ASSIGNED : 7 Bugs REOPENED : 25 Bugs RESOLVED

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is not much that you can do. You can cross your t and dot you i but in reality it makes no difference. You can be a member of a committee, you can talk to Bion or Erik in person. It makes no difference because these operational matters do just not get priority, they just do not get done

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Robert Rohde
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/3/2 Aryeh Gregor : >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > >>> Is there a bug? > >> More significantly, is there evidence of community consensus? > > > There was a poll which came out about 59%:41% in favour, then Jimbo >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Charlotte Webb
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > As a member of the language committee I can authoritatively state that the > request for a Pontic Wikipedia has been waiting for 60 days. The request fro > a Finnish Wikiversity has been waiting for 50 days. I have talked with Brion >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Pontic language Wikipedia proposal was originally proposed on September 18, 2007. The request was made in Bugzilla more recently. Charlotte, the fact that the notion of Flagged Revisions was proposed in 2005 is as relevant from an operational point of view. You can only ask for implementat

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:32 PM, David Gerard wrote: > The problem is that this stuff basically isn't set out anywhere. The > procedure is not in the least transparent. > > If it is, please point me at it. As far as the sysadmins go, the procedure is quite transparent and explicit: file a bug with

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Aryeh Gregor : > As far as the sysadmins go, the procedure is quite transparent and > explicit: file a bug with the "shell" keyword and an exact description > of what's desired, together with a pointer to community consensus. > The only unclear part of that is the last, and to the extent

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, David Gerard wrote: > The "shell" keyword was a new one to me. It may or may not actually be necessary. > Is the above actually written down anywhere other than your message? I > suggest it should be. It's probably written down in a bunch of places. If you want

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/2 Aryeh Gregor : > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> Is the above actually written down anywhere other than your message? I >> suggest it should be. > It's probably written down in a bunch of places.  If you want to write > it down in some more places, be bold. I'v

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread Tim Starling
Robert Rohde wrote: > At the current time, the way I see it there are three things that can happen: > > 1) A dev can stick his neck out to make a decision, either affirmative > or negative, on whether the 60% survey justifies adopting the proposed > "trial" settings. > 2) The WMF can intervene to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flagged revs trial on en:wp?

2009-03-01 Thread K. Peachey
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, David Gerard wrote: >> The "shell" keyword was a new one to me. > > It may or may not actually be necessary. For anything thats related to the maintaince of wiki's (eg: updating, changes, extenstion installs ec