Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
Hi Manuel, False accusations and the expression of willingness to cooperate usually do not go well together, so thank you for setting it right as soon as possible on this mailing list. Okawix is not violating GPL. I had a chat with one of their developers yesterday, and from what I hear from thei

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hoi Gerard, it is indeed a huge improvement that finally the source code was made available. This has not yet came to my sight. So GPL violation does not count here. Anyway, it took a long time to actually become free. When we were trying to work with Linterweb it took us months to get some pa

Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-02 Thread Aryeh Gregor
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Niklas Laxström wrote: > When using CDB, the cache is constant. You can't do incremental > updates. You can, you just have to write an entirely new database every time. This will already have to be done every time the messages change. Changes to {{SITENAME}} should

Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-02 Thread Platonides
Niklas Laxström wrote: > Localisation cache caches only static content, not in-wiki > customisations. On the other hand, it needs some trickery if the set > of extensions differ between wikis, but should still be possible. But > I'm just guessing, I don't know how they are going to set it up. How

[Wikitech-l] Cross-wiki transclusion (was: flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org Status?)

2009-09-02 Thread Mike.lifeguard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brion wrote: > Probably not absurdly difficult to > implement for at least these limited purposes (fetch page from other > database if it's not here locally), and we have related code already in > place for at least: > > * remote image pages > * media

Re: [Wikitech-l] 5 millions

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:14 AM, wrote: > Hi, everyone, > > Wikimedia Commons, the media repository site used by Wikipedia, today just > reached the 5 million media files milestone. Every one of these media files > is available under a free license, such that anyone can use them for any > purpose.

Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-02 Thread Niklas Laxström
2009/9/2 Platonides : > Niklas Laxström wrote: >> When using CDB, the cache is constant. You can't do incremental >> updates. And what if WMF uses *single* cache for all projects? Then >> {{SITENAME}} wouldn't be constant anymore, and we would not get better >> performance where it is needed most.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I referred to a place where the code can be found. The code states that it is GPL code. So what are you saying... That it is not ??? Thanks, GerardM 2009/9/2 Roan Kattouw > 2009/9/2 Gerard Meijssen : > > Hoi, > > Why do you say that it is proprietary and why do you state that there i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Roan Kattouw Verzonden: woensdag 2 september 2009 18:10 > Taking code from a GPLed project and putting it in a non-GPLed (or > non-GPL-compatible) project is a violation of the GPL. Well, that is stating the obvious. The question is: what makes Okawix violate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/9/2 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Why do you say that it is proprietary and why do you state that there is a > GPL violation ? Making accusations like this without providing evidence is > not what I expect. [snip] > 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider >> I want to add that Okawix uses code from the pre-

Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-02 Thread Platonides
Niklas Laxström wrote: > When using CDB, the cache is constant. You can't do incremental > updates. And what if WMF uses *single* cache for all projects? Then > {{SITENAME}} wouldn't be constant anymore, and we would not get better > performance where it is needed most. It could help other MediaWik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Why do you say that it is proprietary and why do you state that there is a GPL violation ? Making accusations like this without providing evidence is not what I expect. When you look at their website you find that the code can be found here ... http://sourceforge.net/projects/okawix/ so what

[Wikitech-l] Exclude entries from RecentChange and NewPages list

2009-09-02 Thread Uwe Baumbach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, we try to exclude from - - RSS/Atom feeds of RC and New Pages list generally and - - Special Pages of RC and New Pages for users not in a custom user group all entries or __at least__ the diffs and new page content for all pages of a custom na

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
I want to add that Okawix uses code from the pre-ZIM GPL'ed ZenoReader and ZenoWriter which has been developed by the openZIM team before we started ZIM, but they changed it to be incompatible with Zeno and ZIM. So Okawix can be regarded to be as proprietary as well as also a GPL violation. We

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For you information Okawix is localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Okawix 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider > Hi Chengbin, hi list, > > static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps > processing has been assigned t

[Wikitech-l] 5 millions

2009-09-02 Thread zh509
Hi, everyone, Wikimedia Commons, the media repository site used by Wikipedia, today just reached the 5 million media files milestone. Every one of these media files is available under a free license, such that anyone can use them for any purpose. Wikimedia Commons is the largest free media repo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: > Well, as I said, Archos devices are not computers. They're merely portable > video players with an internet browser. That's why I seek the static HTML > version of Wikipedia. I see. But maybe it is possible to install a reader or at least th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Manuel Schneider < manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> wrote: > Hi Chengbin, > > ZIM is an upcoming standard for using HTML contents offline. It is derived > from the Zeno file format used on the german Wikipedia DVDs since 2006 (ZIM > = > Zeno IMproved). > > There are c

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Chengbin, ZIM is an upcoming standard for using HTML contents offline. It is derived from the Zeno file format used on the german Wikipedia DVDs since 2006 (ZIM = Zeno IMproved). There are currently several reader applications for it, for instance the zimreader made by the openZIM project o

Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-02 Thread Niklas Laxström
2009/9/2 Ilmari Karonen : > (Although Roan's suggestion of also folding things like {{CURRENTYEAR}} > and passing their expiration time to the cache may also be worth > considering.  We could then just treat e.g. {{SITENAME}} as having an > infinite expiration time, and any truly uncacheable magic

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Manuel Schneider < manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> wrote: > Hi Chengbin, hi list, > > static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps > processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc > (developer at WMF), there has not

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at Wikimani

Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-02 Thread Ilmari Karonen
Robert Rohde wrote: > > As I suggested yesterday, perhaps not very clearly, I think the > sensible thing to do is to bypass the Parser on most calls to messages > like "Welcome to {{SITENAME}}" by caching the post-transformed version > of the message, e.g "Welcome to Wikipedia", in the MessageCach

Re: [Wikitech-l] Have wikimedia lucene-search config been published?

2009-09-02 Thread Anon Sricharoenchai
Then, could you please publish lsearch-global.conf onto NOC? On 8/28/09, Robert Stojnic wrote: > > We could publish lsearch-global.conf since it doesn't contain any > private info, and there is only one. However, lsearch.conf is different > for various searchers and contains passwords to acces

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Platonides wrote: > Chengbin Zheng wrote: > > I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress > (or > > plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. > > B&H photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media