Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Nov 4, 2013 2:28 AM, "Ori Livneh" wrote: > > The roll-out of 1.23wmf2 to your favorite Wikimedia wiki will > inaugurate the era of ResourceLoader module storage -- an era which > will be marked by terrifying and hilarious new bugs, intermittent > client-side failures, and generally inexcusable

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 11/03/2013 08:27 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: > * Module storage is enabled only if the underlying browser supports > localStorage (~89% of browsers in use, according to > ). Users with older > browsers will not see a benefit, but they will not suffer a penal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Željko Filipin
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: > Ori, Thank you for this fun-to-read introduction to Module Storage. +1 Željko ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Memento Extension for MediaWiki: Advice on Further Development

2013-11-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > I haven't looked at your code, so not sure about the context - but: In > general a hook returns true to denote no futher processing should take > place. If we're talking about wfRunHooks hooks, the usual case is that they return *false* to indi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Max Semenik
On 04.11.2013, 16:50 Mark wrote: > Ori, Thank you for this fun-to-read introduction to Module Storage. > I wonder if this will have any affect on low bandwidth users. It seems > like this would help if someone had only a 2G/GPRS connection, but do a > lower percentage of those users have browser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
On 11/04/2013 10:10 AM, Max Semenik wrote: > Most of our mobile traffic is genrated by iOS and Android - both of > which support LocalStorage, so it will work for them too. People using 2G/GPRS are not necessarily using a mobile device. I've heard from at least one user (hence https://bugzilla.wi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Memento Extension for MediaWiki: Advice on Further Development

2013-11-04 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-11-04 11:04 AM, "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > > I haven't looked at your code, so not sure about the context - but: In > > general a hook returns true to denote no futher processing should take > > place. > > If we're talking about

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Robson
I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out. The only downside I can so far see is that the amount of browser storage available varies drastically [1] and I wonder whether this will cause upsets for those browsers with extremely strict limits. I've also been toying with the idea of using loca

Re: [Wikitech-l] Memento Extension for MediaWiki: Advice on Further Development

2013-11-04 Thread Seb35
Le Sat, 02 Nov 2013 21:15:01 +0100, Shawn Jones a écrit : Seb35, I came across your extension a month ago. Ours is different in that it is also implementing the Memento protocol as used by the Internet Archive, Archive-It, and others. I do however, appreciate your insight in trying to s

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Jon Robson wrote: > I'm looking forward to seeing how this plays out. The only downside I > can so far see is that the amount of browser storage available varies > drastically [1] and I wonder whether this will cause upsets for those > browsers with extremely stric

Re: [Wikitech-l] Module storage is coming

2013-11-04 Thread Isarra Yos
On 04/11/13 15:31, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: On 11/04/2013 10:10 AM, Max Semenik wrote: Most of our mobile traffic is genrated by iOS and Android - both of which support LocalStorage, so it will work for them too. People using 2G/GPRS are not necessarily using a mobile device. I've heard from

[Wikitech-l] FOSS OPW Round 7 Featured Project synopsis: Uploadwizard:OSM map embedding

2013-11-04 Thread Anu George Enchackal
Hi everyone, As an applicant of FOSS-OPW Round 7, I took a deep and profound interest in one of the featured projects "Uploadwizard:OSM map embedding" . If chosen or allowed I am planning to focus on this particular project. Project Synopsis*** "This project is about enhancing the image uplo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Lightning deploy Monday for Vector

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Robson
Thanks Matt! On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Matthew Walker wrote: > I can do it; I'm already deploying tomorrow for Centralnotice. > > I thought you had deploy rights though? > > ~Matt Walker > Wikimedia Foundation > Fundraising Technology Team > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Jon Robson

Re: [Wikitech-l] Memento Extension for MediaWiki: Advice on Further Development

2013-11-04 Thread Lee Worden
From: Brian Wolff On 2013-11-04 11:04 AM, "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" wrote: > >On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > >I haven't looked at your code, so not sure about the context - but: In > >general a hook returns true to denote no futher processing should take > >place. > >If we'r

[Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Currently, Visual Editor is trashing badly every article that is edited on French Wiki: every accented character is replaced by strange characters all over the article. Could you please stop immediately VE ? How can such a mess make its way into production ? Is there no real tests before ? Nico

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Dan Garry
I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on this to one of the engineers involved in VisualEditor so he's aware of it. Obviously this is an urgent problem that needs fixing. Thanks, Dan On 4 November 2013 20:29, Nicolas Vervelle wrote: > Currently, Visual Editor

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Risker
Likely related to this bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296 It is also happening on English Wikipedia, according to the VE feedback page. Risker On 4 November 2013 15:40, Dan Garry wrote: > I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on >

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Well, yes it's more than urgent, several articles are trashed every minute. How can something like that be unleashed into big wikis without proper testing ? On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Dan Garry wrote: > I'm not involved in the VisualEditor development, but I've tried to pass on > this to o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Yes, it's happening everywhere, but English doesn't have accented characters, so damages are more limited. On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Risker wrote: > Likely related to this bugzilla: > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50296 > > It is also happening on English Wikipedia, acc

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Erik Moeller
This was due to a broken deployment of Parsoid, the new MediaWiki parser used by VisualEditor. A new library dependency defaulted to iso8859-1 instead of utf-8, which caused character munging to occur. Gabriel is working on a postmortem and we'll share this shortly with recommendations on how to a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Visual Editor is trashing every article on French Wiki

2013-11-04 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
The bug for this was https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/56583 . -- Matma Rex ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Introducing Beta Features

2013-11-04 Thread Fabrice Florin
Hi all, We're pleased to announce Beta Features [1], a new program that lets you test new features on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites before they are released for everyone. Think of it as a digital laboratory where community members can preview upcoming software and give feedback to help impr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Memento Extension for MediaWiki: Advice on Further Development

2013-11-04 Thread Remco de Boer
Hi Shawn, I'm currently working on the Memento Extension for Mediawiki, as announced > earlier today by Herbert Van de Sompel. > This is very exciting! Coincidentally, at last week's SMWCon (the Semantic MediaWiki conference) in Berlin I gave a presentation to argue that we need some sort of 'ti

Re: [Wikitech-l] Thoughts of the better landing page

2013-11-04 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Hi, I have been researching how to implement m.wikipedia.org landing page. It should show the same output as en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Zero page, except that it should be localized based on the carrier's default language. Possible solutions: * - map to docroot that contains the same mediaw

[Wikitech-l] Parsoid charset corruption post-mortem

2013-11-04 Thread Gabriel Wicke
at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20131104-Parsoid The most important recommendation is the creation of automated full-stack web API tests in addition to our existing parser test and round-trip test setups. This should catch library issues like this in the future before deploy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Memento Extension for MediaWiki: Advice on Further Development

2013-11-04 Thread Herbert Van de Sompel
On Nov 4, 2013, at 14:24, Remco de Boer wrote: > Hi Shawn, > > > I'm currently working on the Memento Extension for Mediawiki, as announced >> earlier today by Herbert Van de Sompel. > > This is very exciting! Coincidentally, at last week's SMWCon (the Semantic > MediaWiki conference) in Berlin