[Wikitech-l] new bastion host in Europe available, bast3001 replaces hooft

2016-04-01 Thread Daniel Zahn
If you have shell access on Wikimedia servers and you are located in Europe (or EMEA region), this is for you: There is now the new bastion host: bast3001.wikimedia.org to (finally) match with the existing bastion hosts 1001, 2001 and 4001. It replaces hooft.esams.wikimedia.org and runs Debian

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's make parsoid i18n great again

2016-04-01 Thread Nick Wilson (Quiddity)
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:02 AM, Eran Rosenthal wrote: > I rebased https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/247914/ and added some > documentation. > It seems that jenkins got drunk :) > > I made an image macro/command for this, a while ago... say /jenkins https://i.imgur.com/zuGQrYX.png ;-) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's make parsoid i18n great again

2016-04-01 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> It seems that jenkins got drunk :) A flaky unit test https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131549 Greg -- | Greg GrossmeierGPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | identi.ca: @gregA18D 1138 8E47 FAC8 1C7D | ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's make parsoid i18n great again

2016-04-01 Thread Eran Rosenthal
I rebased https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/247914/ and added some documentation. It seems that jenkins got drunk :) On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:34 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Siebrand Mazeland > wrote: > > > Please give me some time. It's way past beer 'o

Re: [Wikitech-l] Discovery Weekly Update for the week starting 2016-03-28

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Also of note: the completion suggester was used as part of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-03-30/Technology_report thanks to its evangelization at metrics meeting this week. Yay! --scott On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Chris Koerner wrote: > Hello, > Here is the

[Wikitech-l] Discovery Weekly Update for the week starting 2016-03-28

2016-04-01 Thread Chris Koerner
Hello, Here is the Discovery department's weekly status update. * Q4: April - June 2016 draft goals are available for review. * Discovery hosted an IRC office hour

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Ryan Lane
To be totally honest, I think this is a great idea, but it should use emojis. Github added this for PRs and messages for instance, and it's amazingly helpful: https://github.com/blog/2119-add-reactions-to-pull-requests-issues-and-comments Slack has the same thing. It's fun, people like it, and it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Pine W
I can't tell if this is intended to be an April 1st joke or if it's serious. In any case, I could see this being an interesting option for talk pages, particularly where Flow is enabled. Pine On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > It's well known that Wikipedia is facing thre

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Apr 1, 2016 11:00 PM, "C. Scott Ananian" wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Legoktm wrote: > > > I've written a patch[1] that introduces a new feature to the Thanks > > extension called "feelings". When hovering over a "thank" link, five > > different emoji icons will pop up[2], repres

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Legoktm wrote: > I've written a patch[1] that introduces a new feature to the Thanks > extension called "feelings". When hovering over a "thank" link, five > different emoji icons will pop up[2], representing five different > feelings: happy, love, surprise, anger,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Ryan Lane
/me marks this email with "anger" On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > This sounds like something that some random WMF team would actually > implement in the near future... > > > Il 01/04/2016 21:24, Legoktm ha scritto: > >> Hi, >> >> It's well known that Wikipedia is facing thr

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Ricordisamoa
This sounds like something that some random WMF team would actually implement in the near future... Il 01/04/2016 21:24, Legoktm ha scritto: Hi, It's well known that Wikipedia is facing threats from other social networks and losing editors. While many of us spend time trying to make Wikipedia

[Wikitech-l] grunt-cli removed from Jenkins machines

2016-04-01 Thread Antoine Musso
Hello, The Jenkins slaves had grunt-cli provisioned which is often used by the npm test command. If you get a Jenkins job to fail with: sh: 1: grunt: not found Simply add grunt-cli to your project devDependencies and the next build have it installed. Example: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's make parsoid i18n great again

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Siebrand Mazeland wrote: > Please give me some time. It's way past beer 'o clock at the Hackathon. > Tomorrow's another day (JST - Jerusalem Standard Time). > Sure, no worries. I'm waiting for Eran to rebase and document anyway. ;) Enjoy your beer! --scott --

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Brad Jorsch (Anomie)
On Apr 1, 2016 10:24 PM, "Legoktm" wrote: > happy, love, surprise, anger, and fear. No sadness or disgust? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's make parsoid i18n great again

2016-04-01 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
Please give me some time. It's way past beer 'o clock at the Hackathon. Tomorrow's another day (JST - Jerusalem Standard Time). -- Siebrand Mazeland Kitano ICT M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand > Op 1 apr. 2016 om 22:25 heeft C. Scott Ananian het > volgende geschreven: > > I'm prepared to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Brion Vibber
😉 -- brion On Apr 1, 2016 10:24 PM, "Legoktm" wrote: > Hi, > > It's well known that Wikipedia is facing threats from other social > networks and losing editors. While many of us spend time trying to make > Wikipedia different, we need to be cognizant that what other social > networks are doing i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's make parsoid i18n great again

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I'm prepared to Be Bold and C+2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247914. In my view, by establishing a consistent semantics (first alias preferred) this empowers the local wikis. If a particular wiki decides they prefer to use the English alias in markup, they just have to submit a patch to reorde

[Wikitech-l] Feelings

2016-04-01 Thread Legoktm
Hi, It's well known that Wikipedia is facing threats from other social networks and losing editors. While many of us spend time trying to make Wikipedia different, we need to be cognizant that what other social networks are doing is working. And if we can't beat them, we need to join them. I've w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Let's make parsoid i18n great again

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Let's get that patch to core +2'ed. Establishing a consistent preference order in core is clearly (IMNSHO) the right thing to do. Siebrand, could you take a second look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247914 ? --scott On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Arlo Breault wrote: > > > And there is a

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Friday, April 1, 2016, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Arlo actually implemented the Parsoid side of this: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50891 <3 > We still need VE support: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55974 Cool, will concentrate my efforts there. :) I hope we can figure out a

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Arlo actually implemented the Parsoid side of this: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50891 We still need VE support: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55974 --scott On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > I think improving VE to understand translate, and expanding the > train

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread Gregory Varnum
I think improving VE to understand translate, and expanding the training/documentation for translate are the best next steps. This is also a problem on Meta-Wiki. Removing the translate setup from the pages seems problematic as we're trying to make info available in languages beyond just Englis

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread rupert THURNER
On Apr 1, 2016 18:32, "Brion Vibber" wrote: > > Lots of pages on mediawiki.org are pretty much uneditable because they're > strewn with spanning multiple paragraphs that make VisualEditor > completely unusable and the source editor very difficult to use. > > I'm trying to update documentation, an

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread Brion Vibber
So based on notes from Niklas on the bug, it looks like there are two main problems: 1) VE treats ... chunks as uneditable extension blobs. 2) Some/many pages use ... incorrectly: spanning paragraphs, markup level boundaries, etc. So problem 1) can be improved in two ways: 1a) Have VE treat ...

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Proper VE/Parsoid support for the extension has been wanted for > a while now. It hasn't made a list of quarterly goals yet. Help wanted, > certainly. > This is a HUGELY important dogfooding goal; we need to be able to edit the wiki ab

Re: [Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Proper VE/Parsoid support for the extension has been wanted for a while now. It hasn't made a list of quarterly goals yet. Help wanted, certainly. --scott On Apr 1, 2016 12:32 PM, "Brion Vibber" wrote: > Lots of pages on mediawiki.org are pretty much uneditable because they're > strewn with

[Wikitech-l] tags are a usability nightmare for editing on mediawiki.org

2016-04-01 Thread Brion Vibber
Lots of pages on mediawiki.org are pretty much uneditable because they're strewn with spanning multiple paragraphs that make VisualEditor completely unusable and the source editor very difficult to use. I'm trying to update documentation, and I'm seriously thinking of regexing out all the stuff

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia in Pig Latin

2016-04-01 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On a somewhat serious note, I'm a big fan of enabling pig Latin as a language variant in enwiki. It would allow out SFO developers to familiarize themselves with how language converter works, in a script they can (mostly) read and understand. It also is *almost but not quite* reversible (consider

[Wikitech-l] Wikipedia in Pig Latin

2016-04-01 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Due to popular demand, I've implemented a patch to dynamically convert all Wikipedia content into Pig Latin. Give it a try and let me know what you think: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/280927/ Note that this implementation is language agnostic, but it works best with Latin scripts. For those

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
This is part of a longstanding general plan to move to https for our services. You can track (most of) those items here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/162/ although the specific task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128587 is not listed there. In particular you might look at a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Huib Laurens
Aprils fool? On Friday, 1 April 2016, Petr Bena wrote: > Can you give us some justification for this change? It's not like when > downloading dumps you would actually leak some sensitive data... > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Ariel Glenn WMF > wrote: > > We plan to make this change on Apri

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Dan Andreescu
:) I would like to think that April Fools would be a little more extreme than this Petr, the data people are downloading from dumps is not sensitive itself, but a user's private information (such as User Agent, IP, etc. is vulnerable over plain http). So the move to https protects that from snoop

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Dan Andreescu
Cross-posting this announcement since people on Analytics-l tend to use dumps a lot basically http access is being redirected to https starting April 4th On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Ariel Glenn WMF wrote: > We plan to make this change on April 4 (this coming Monday), redirecting > plain htt

Re: [Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Petr Bena
Can you give us some justification for this change? It's not like when downloading dumps you would actually leak some sensitive data... On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Ariel Glenn WMF wrote: > We plan to make this change on April 4 (this coming Monday), redirecting > plain http access to https. >

[Wikitech-l] CORS redux: enabling non-authenticated cross-origin API requests?

2016-04-01 Thread Brion Vibber
Some of us at the hackathon ran into this old bug again: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62835 namely, the MediaWiki API currently completely forbids cross-origin requests in the CORS config except for whitelisting authenticated requests from our own domains, whereas it could also allow non-au

[Wikitech-l] Dumps.wm.o access will be https only

2016-04-01 Thread Ariel Glenn WMF
We plan to make this change on April 4 (this coming Monday), redirecting plain http access to https. A reminder that our dumps can also be found on our mirror sites, for those who may have restricted https access. Ariel Glenn ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] X-Wikimedia-Debug, your new secret side-kick

2016-04-01 Thread Sam Smith
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Ori Livneh wrote:​ > > Cool? Cool. > Very cool. Kudos to all involved. -Sam ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l