Re: [Wikitech-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
/CSS is now served from bits.wikimedia.org as well, which means things like relative @import statements in CSS are broken at this time; we're working on a fix for that. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
contain preferences data. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Gender preference

2011-02-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/2/10 Soxred93 soxre...@gmail.com: prefstats maybe? Yeah, that would contain some data, but only for the skin and usebetatoolbar preferences. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] New two-part schedule for 1.17 deployment

2011-02-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
with us (#wikimedia-tech).  Is he.wikisource.org ready? We can always just change the language on test2.wikipedia.org to Hebrew or something. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8

2011-02-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
heterogeneous deployments (different versions of the code on different wikis). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia behaves differently in Firefox 4 Beta 10

2011-01-31 Thread Roan Kattouw
on the bug noting that the DOM manipulation our JS does on the textarea might trigger this. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Farewell JSMin, Hello JavaScriptDistiller!

2011-01-31 Thread Roan Kattouw
should watch out and make sure we've got regression tests covering any cases we find. Yes, we need minifier tests. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] OT: Sunday in San Francisco

2011-01-27 Thread Roan Kattouw
the edge of the park. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sentence-level editing / InlineEditor extension update

2011-01-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
component? There is an InlineEditor component now. I don't know who created it; I tried to create it just now, but to my surprise it already existed. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Farewell JSMin, Hello JavaScriptDistiller!

2011-01-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
recommend using ?debug=true for that ;) Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] File licensing information support

2011-01-21 Thread Roan Kattouw
would be a nightmare, and would probably involve setting stuff to read-only for a few hours. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] File licensing information support

2011-01-21 Thread Roan Kattouw
and drop the old tables. Sure, it can be dealt with. It's just that it'd be an epic upgrade :) Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Farewell JSMin, Hello JavaScriptDistiller!

2011-01-20 Thread Roan Kattouw
is ridiculous. That, and it doesn't present legal problems. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Farewell JSMin, Hello JavaScriptDistiller!

2011-01-20 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/21 Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org: Joke or not, it's in there, and it's a violation of the GPL. Plus the alternative is better anyway. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-18 Thread Roan Kattouw
saw. I think he finished recompressing a couple of months ago. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extending WikiEditor toolbar

2011-01-17 Thread Roan Kattouw
has some nasty issues with selections. Have you tried calling .dialog( 'close' ) before doAction() instead of after? That's the only difference I can find between your code and the built-in dialogs. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] From page history to sentence history

2011-01-17 Thread Roan Kattouw
to wikidiff2 (a custom C++ diff implementation that generates diffs with HTML markup like ins/del) and caching the result in memcached. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] X-Frame-Options DENY / SAMEORIGIN and cross-wiki userscripts

2011-01-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
like the code for this is already there [5], maybe I should open a new bug right now? Would be nice to track it in BZ, yes. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on 1.17

2011-01-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
be broken in 1.17, not in trunk), looking into that now. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on 1.17

2011-01-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/7 Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com: Also FR seems to be unconditionally enabled, also on wikis that do not have the tables present. Which wikis would those be? Rob says he ran update.php so all the tables should be there. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on 1.17

2011-01-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/7 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: TW is probably TranslateWiki. I wouldn't know what MWO is without context, looking. Seems to be a non-standard acronym for MW.org ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Update on 1.17

2011-01-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
2011/1/7 Diederik van Liere dvanli...@gmail.com: The same error is given for: * Russian * Japanese * Italian * Arabic (ar is the language code) All fixed now, thanks for reporting. I had tried to run update.php against all DBs, but I forgot I'd commented out the code for switching DBs. Roan

Re: [Wikitech-l] What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)

2011-01-06 Thread Roan Kattouw
revisions, we cache them in memcached. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] JavaScript access to uploaded file contents: SVGEdit gadget needs ApiSVGProxy or CORS

2011-01-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
IE8 and below? Do any of the proxy-needing browsers support CORS? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] How would you disrupt Wikipedia?

2011-01-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
can also imagine that there would be other performance concerns with LST preventing its deployment to large wikis, but I'm not sure of that. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] How would you disrupt Wikipedia?

2011-01-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
wikipedia using #lst? :-) Using #lst to implement variables in wikitext sounds like a terrible hack, similar to how using {{padleft:}} to implement string functions in wikitext is a terrible hack. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] What would be a perfect wiki syntax? (Re: WYSIWYG)

2011-01-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
time ago) and I haven't succeeded in convincing him to reply on this list (holidays, I guess), but he's been playing around for it for about nine months now, on and off, and from what I've heard and seen it's promising and entirely in the spirit of your post. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.17 branch

2010-12-31 Thread Roan Kattouw
welcome there for getting advice from fellow developers and telling them the next time trunk breaks like that :) Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.17 branch

2010-12-31 Thread Roan Kattouw
of limbo where parts of the code are from 1.17, parts are from the code meant to be in 1.18, and some of the files are mixed... I'll take a look at cleaning this up right now. I'll do this by reverting r79129 and merging the revisions it merged more carefully and in smaller batches. Roan Kattouw

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.17 branch

2010-12-31 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/12/31 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: I'll take a look at cleaning this up right now. I'll do this by reverting r79129 and merging the revisions it merged more carefully and in smaller batches. This is fixed now. I didn't go to such extremes as to completely revert and re-do r79129

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.17 branch

2010-12-31 Thread Roan Kattouw
support is sort-of-ready before the 1.17 release and doesn't require non-trivial core changes, we can do that. So Radim, please do all development in trunk, then if and when we decide the code is 1.17-ready we'll merge it into REL1_17. This is what we do for everything else too. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search engine improvements for transcluded text?

2010-12-19 Thread Roan Kattouw
. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallelizing export dump (bug 24630)

2010-12-17 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/12/17 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com: -even assuming that the memcached can happily handle it and no other data is affecting by it- the network delay make it a non-free operation. Because memcached uses LRU, I think this'll also flood a lot of stuff out of the cache. Roan Kattouw

Re: [Wikitech-l] Parallelizing export dump (bug 24630)

2010-12-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
-only) or how much it would help (my impression is ES is one of the slower parts of our system and reducing the number of ES hits by a factor 50 should help, but I may be wrong), maybe someone with more relevant knowledge and experience can comment on that (Tim?). Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Re: [Mediawiki-l] vector components many blank lines

2010-12-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/12/7 Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org: I have made this point before, clearly upon deaf ears - but I will make it again. I don't think this'll surprise anyone, but I'll just state that I fully agree with Trevor here. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

[Wikitech-l] 1.17 branched

2010-12-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
or changes to one specific component you're familiar with, you're taking work out of the hands of other reviewers. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.17 branched

2010-12-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/12/7 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: When you commit or find a revision post-r77974 that you feel should be in 1.17 (bugfixes, typically, no new features), tag it with 1.17 in CodeReview. It's been pointed out on IRC that you need to be in the coder group on mediawiki.org to be able

Re: [Wikitech-l] 1.17 branched

2010-12-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/12/7 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: I'd also like to call upon everyone to help out with code review. Another addendum inspired by IRC chatter: not just MediaWiki core needs to be reviewed, extensions deployed on WMF wikis need review too. So if you happen to be familiar with the code

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review and making it to 1.17

2010-12-06 Thread Roan Kattouw
that. That's the correct approach indeed, thanks for correcting me or I would've done it wrong. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Draft plan for 1.17 branch next week (Code review and making it to 1.17)

2010-12-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
recent, that'd be a strong case for moving the branch point into the past. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Draft plan for 1.17 branch next week (Code review and making it to 1.17)

2010-12-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
some people's time to this). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review and making it to 1.17

2010-12-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
deploy first and release later, that's what we've always done AFAIK. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review and making it to 1.17

2010-12-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
their time to doing review and other things needed to get 1.17 into shape (WMF-employed reviewers are mostly focusing on their assigned projects now AFAICT) I think we can definitely finish before March. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review and making it to 1.17

2010-12-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
branch or declare something like a feature freeze and freeze for minor stuff in trunk. My general opinion on this sort of thing is that trunk should not generally be subject to such freezes. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Code review comments list

2010-12-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
-cvs, this list is not archived. Tim and I are the current list admins. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-codereview [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22046 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons ZIP file upload for admins

2010-11-30 Thread Roan Kattouw
, but it's not unreasonable to want to upload OpenOffice documents. Since the OO formats are ZIP-like, blocking ZIPs blocks those too. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] InlineEditor / Sentence-Level Editing: usability review

2010-11-29 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/11/29 Jan Paul Posma jp.po...@gmail.com: Full interview videos will be available on Wikimedia Commons somewhere next month. They are in Dutch, though. Michael, can we subtitle those with mwEmbed magic? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Commons ZIP file upload for admins

2010-11-29 Thread Roan Kattouw
with a .class extension. I can’t vouch for this method. **If you did this, the zip library you used would have to be exactly as tolerant of zip format errors as the one used by Java.** It would probably be best to actually shell out to Java to do the test. (emphasis mine) Roan Kattouw (Catrope) [1

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Toolserver-l] alternative way to get wikipedia dump while server is down

2010-11-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
and the downtime situation with download.wm.o Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] recursiveTagParse makes data vanish

2010-11-16 Thread Roan Kattouw
modules from an extension too. If all you need to do is parse some wikitext without otherwise needing to do things in PHP (i.e. if you can generate the wikitext to parse on the JS side), you could use the existing action=parse module to parse it. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Job queue on Wiki Farms

2010-11-16 Thread Roan Kattouw
6 clusters (three clusters of one, one of three, one of ~20 and one with the other ~790), so we only need to connect to 6 DB servers and run one query on each. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Resource Loader problem

2010-11-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/11/10 Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com: Hey, ...are trying to find images in the /img/ folder... So why is this, and how can it be fixed? It works when not using the RL... Could you point me to the code that generates those img tags? Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Considering mirroring mediawiki-1.16.0.tar.gz

2010-11-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/11/10 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: 2010/11/10 Tei oscar.vi...@gmail.com: Hi, Just a sugestion. Downloading the last version of MediaWiki seems to take ages ATM. Maybe servers are overloaded. And not mirror is offered. $  wget http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.16

Re: [Wikitech-l] Considering mirroring mediawiki-1.16.0.tar.gz

2010-11-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
This is because of the dumps server outage reported in this channel earlier. The tarballs are hosted on the same server. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Killing $wgStyleDirectory

2010-11-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
. However, Trevor also said that other parts of MW already don't obey $wgStyleDirectory . Maybe someone needs to try setting it and see if things break. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Resource Loader problem

2010-11-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
don't know where it is (maybe someone who does can post a link?). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question about external links CSS

2010-11-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
talking about here. I guess you could take a concatenated version of all style sheets and generate an RTL version of that. What do the current static dumps do? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question about external links CSS

2010-11-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/11/10 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: I guess you could take a concatenated version of all style sheets and generate an RTL version of that. Hmm, and remap image paths, now I think of it. It'd probably be easier to pull the CSS for all modules from the resource loader this way

Re: [Wikitech-l] Resource Loader problem

2010-11-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
wrong with image URL remapping here, but it's hard to figure out what unless I can see it fail in my browser. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Backward compatibility guidelines

2010-11-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
cases. Sounds good. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Question about external links CSS

2010-11-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
. Static dumps wouldn't be affected as long as they use one language consistently and fetch the CSS through RL. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2010-11-08 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/11/8 Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr: With Codereview backlog, manual updates fixing my own bugs ... I am not sure I am going to help clean up Bugzilla backlog anytime soon :( We're hiring a Bugmeister soon, hopefully that'll help. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2010-11-08 Thread Roan Kattouw
to work on certain bugs. Right now my impression is we/they mostly do projects. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] mod_pagespeed?

2010-11-05 Thread Roan Kattouw
URL inlining based on user agent. We use aggressive caching so we can't do anything based on User-Agent. We still do data URLs, though, with a fallback rule that happens to only work in browsers that don't support data URLs. It's a dirty hack, but it works. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] [WikiEN-l] Images loading slowly?

2010-11-05 Thread Roan Kattouw
it at the moment... There is an ongoing issue with the thumbnail server, which has been acting up all week. We're working on a quick temporary fix. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader, now in trunk!

2010-11-05 Thread Roan Kattouw
will end up near the bottom of the body though, so you can't use inline JS to call functions defined in that script. Aren't too much number of extensions would become suddenly incompatible due of that change? As long as they're not using inline JS, they won't break. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] mod_pagespeed?

2010-11-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
there to optimize your site, or you can have humans implement those optimizations in MediaWiki. The latter is exactly what ResourceLoader is doing. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla keywords for deployment queues?

2010-11-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
if those people don't have time because their real responsibilities take up all their time. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) * Back in December 2009, I had to take a few weeks off for fiscal reasons and spent that time processing some of the backlog, which I remember jokingly characterizing as doing Rob's

Re: [Wikitech-l] Geoiplookup

2010-11-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
geoip.wm.o allows querying arbitrary IPs, but there's plenty of other such services out there) and find out the rough location it corresponds to. That means any questions regarding privacy of location fall back to privacy of IP, and that's something we already have a well-established policy for. Roan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla keywords for deployment queues?

2010-11-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
of enabling a feature on a certain set of wikis (possibly all) upon deployment and have requests to extend that set go through the shell request procedure works just fine IMO. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Firesheep

2010-10-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
is a cookieless domain. As opposed to other domains like wikipedia.org and wikibooks.org , wikimedia.org doesn't get domain-wide cookies either, because there are wikimedia.org subdomains not controlled by WMF. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Convention for logged vs not-logged page requests

2010-10-20 Thread Roan Kattouw
. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Convention for logged vs not-logged page requests

2010-10-19 Thread Roan Kattouw
Never before did we load JS through a special page like that, and with the resource loader coming up it will never be needed ever again, cause we can and will run everything through load.php . It's a one-time anomaly, so no need for any convention. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

2010-10-18 Thread Roan Kattouw
complications, I do think Tim should be involved. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

2010-10-16 Thread Roan Kattouw
feared, this is an after X plan, where X is the next release. I disagree that that necessarily implies procrastination, however. Sometimes there are valid reasons to do X first, then Y, and I think this is such a case. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

[Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

2010-10-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
. Volunteers, in turn, should be aware that they have a part to play too. Also, both sides should realize behaviors don't change overnight, and should give each other time to adapt and cut each other some slack in the meantime. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

2010-10-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
after having worked at WMF for quite some time. Don't underestimate how long this process takes. We as a community go way back, and outside staffers have missed all that history. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

2010-10-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
the words out right. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

2010-10-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
with the 1.17 release, but that should be discussed in a separate thread I guess. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Collaboration between staff and volunteers: a two-way street

2010-10-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector extension naming

2010-10-13 Thread Roan Kattouw
don't think any new commenters will. Let's just move Vector and WikiEditor into core soon and be done with it. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vector extension naming

2010-10-13 Thread Roan Kattouw
after which the toolbar will Just Work for them is fine. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugmeister opening at Wikimedia Foundation

2010-10-08 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/10/8 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com: I don't see how the link you provided addresses the post you were replying to at all. I think Ryan meant that the hiring a (full-time) Bugmeister was in the annual plan. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Scripts not get loaded at proper time

2010-10-06 Thread Roan Kattouw
onload hooks fire before imported scripts in Chrome. You could try using jQuery's document ready instead of addOnloadHook() and see if that works. Instead of addOnloadHook( function() { code here } ); do $j( document ).ready( function() { code here } ); Roan Kattouw (Catrope

[Wikitech-l] jQuery upgrade on Wikimedia cluster

2010-10-05 Thread Roan Kattouw
that 1.4.2 breaks. If you are the author of a user/site script or gadget, please do check it for jQuery 1.4.2 compat just to be sure. If stuff breaks, feel free to poke me on IRC and I'll help troubleshoot. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25419

Re: [Wikitech-l] IRC Office Hours with Zak Greant (Wikimedia Foundation Technical Writer)

2010-10-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
15:00-16:00 Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Mediawiki-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010-10-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
it. I don't understand why this would be insulting, but whatever... These people should file a bug in Bugzilla per the normal site request procedure. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Mediawiki-l] Please delete mo. wikipedia

2010-10-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/10/3 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: I don't understand why this would be insulting, but whatever... Following the causes.com link clarifies this: it's a Russian influence thing. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader Debug Mode

2010-09-30 Thread Roan Kattouw
our numbers first, but some preliminary playing around seems to indicate Tim's right about this one. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader timestamp format

2010-09-30 Thread Roan Kattouw
? Colons get urlencoded but dashes are fine, so what about (and I know I'm stealing this suggestion from /someone/, I just can't remember who suggested it to me) 1985-04-12T10-15-30Z ? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader Debug Mode

2010-09-30 Thread Roan Kattouw
, because we have a debug mode to give you unminified (and uncombined) code. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] using parserTests code for selenium test framework

2010-09-24 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/9/23 Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com: (If using memcached, be sure to clear those out, reinitialize, or otherwise do something that forces old values to be cleared or ignored.) $wgCacheEpoch is a good one for this. The easiest way to change it is to touch LocalSettings.php. Roan Kattouw

Re: [Wikitech-l] Acceptable use of API

2010-09-24 Thread Roan Kattouw
acceptable usage AFAIK, but I do think that the Toolserver would better suit your needs. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Is the $_SESSION secure?

2010-09-23 Thread Roan Kattouw
it, on WMF we stick it in memcached, I believe). So unless there's some ridiculous vulnerability allowing people to obtain the value of arbitrary keys in $_SESSION, you should be fine AFAIK. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] API architecture

2010-09-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
SQL query buliding methods but also the possibility to override the default printer? Why these methods are limited to action=query lists and generators only? That's a very good suggestion. Feel free to implement it or, if you can't or don't want to, file a bug requesting it in Bugzilla. Roan

Re: [Wikitech-l] API architecture

2010-09-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/9/22 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com: I understand that not every ApiBase derived class needs these, but many could have. Why not make inheritance chain like this: ApiBase - ApiListBase - ApiQueryBase Actually, let's just put that stuff in ApiBase so every module can use it easily

Re: [Wikitech-l] API architecture

2010-09-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
to ApiBase won't break any other ApiBase subclasses. There is no advantage in creating a new class over simply moving this stuff to ApiBase. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman

Re: [Wikitech-l] Balancing MediaWiki Core/Extensions

2010-09-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
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Re: [Wikitech-l] API architecture

2010-09-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/9/22 Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru: 2. I don't have core commit access only extension commit access, however I don't feel like MW guru, so I don't even want to request it. I'll probably file a bug. You can submit patches on Bugzilla too :) Roan Kattouw (Catrope

Re: [Wikitech-l] using parserTests code for selenium test framework

2010-09-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/9/22 Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com: How does memcached fit into this? When I looked at BagOStuff, I didn't find a MemcacheBagOStuff class. Is it defined elsewhere? Either memcached.php, MemCached.php or MWMemcached.php, I forget. The class name is MWMemcached. Roan Kattouw (Catrope

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