Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium tests (was: New committers)

2010-03-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/3/10 Aryeh Gregor : > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: >> On the other hand, we intend on setting up a server that runs these >> tests automatically. Instead of having to pull these tests from a >> million different places, it'd be nice if this s

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium tests

2010-03-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
nicated earlier, but until a few weeks ago the status was "Ryan's patiently waiting for the Selenium servers to arrive and get set up". Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

2010-03-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
heir request. You're right that we should explicitly bring this page under new committers' attention. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium tests

2010-03-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
ost: it's a virtual machine testing against a number other VMs, each running a different OS/browser. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committer

2010-03-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
an account with e-mail linked in CR is especially important. > I forwarded this e-mail to Bhagya and Janesh; I don't have ishimatsu's contact details. Andrew, do you? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikim

Re: [Wikitech-l] Selenium tests (was: New committers)

2010-03-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
it's released is more important and more frequently used than providing easy access to tests to those .3% of downloaders that are actually gonna run them. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] New committers

2010-03-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
could easily be renamed to /trunk/testing/extensions/UsabilityInitiative of course. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] New committers

2010-03-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
bhagya - QA engineer for Calcey Technologies, will be committing Selenium tests to /trunk/testing/selenium janesh - same Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikitech-l] modernizing mediawiki

2010-03-05 Thread Roan Kattouw
eam, which developed the Vector skin. Like I said before, if WMF can't or won't dedicate one of their few developers' time to something and no one in the volunteer community cares, it doesn't happen. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] External editor with merge capability?

2010-03-05 Thread Roan Kattouw
the page was deleted since you started editing. Should be the time at which you clicked the edit button basetimestamp: Used to detect edit conflicts. Should be *exactly equal* to the timestamp of the most recent revision of the page at the time you

Re: [Wikitech-l] External editor with merge capability?

2010-03-04 Thread Roan Kattouw
er session when you restart your browser), your browser may reload the edit page but substitute the old content (containing your work in progress) in the edit box. MediaWiki doesn't know about this, so it records the so-called starttimestamp "wrongly". Roan Kattouw (Catrope) _

Re: [Wikitech-l] hiphop! :)

2010-02-27 Thread Roan Kattouw
ll-blown parse involving enwiki's crazy templates. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Newbie questions

2010-02-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
tc.). This is mostly communication between experienced developers 2) relatively difficult and/or technical questions about MediaWiki (usually posed by less experienced developers and answered by experienced ones, but even the most experienced of us ask questions sometimes). Easy questions go

Re: [Wikitech-l] is there some extension for user do a checklist feedback function?

2010-02-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/2/25 Evel liu : > but I dont know how to use in my wiki, could you give me a link or usage > instruction? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Quiz#Installation_Instructions Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] is there some extension for user do a checklist feedback function?

2010-02-24 Thread Roan Kattouw
run fine on any MediaWiki install. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Only 132 / 252 SVN users have valid USERINFO data

2010-02-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
gt; address publicly. > A significant number of the users on the list are WMF staff or contractors, who should definitely have this info available (and are listed on the staff page on foundationwiki anyway, if they're staff). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extensions in SVN looking for a maintainer

2010-02-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
IIRC Domas was complaining about {{cite}} *templates* and their complexity. Their inefficiency was unrelated to the Cite extension AFAIK. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/m

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin system rewrite

2010-02-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
use their preferred skin. > EditWarning only working in Vector is a weird quirk that is indeed unnecessary. The other Vector-only modules, however, do stuff that's rather Vector-specific and need skin support (like collapsing tabs, enhancing Vector's search box, etc.). Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Skin system rewrite

2010-02-08 Thread Roan Kattouw
pment. Not any more, the Vector skin itself has been stable for months. All the usability work is currently done in the UsabilityInitiative extension. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flattening a wikimedia category

2010-02-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
my earlier reply, and I got a bounce from commons-l-owner saying my message was rejected because I'm not subscribed to commons-l. I'm not going to subscribe to that list, so I left the Cc: commons-l out this time. Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Flattening a wikimedia category

2010-02-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
tly working on a concrete implementation of category intersections. Only when that implementation is complete (or at least close) will it be possible to provide the definitive, specific and unambiguous list of requirements you asked for. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) __

Re: [Wikitech-l] Developer Meet-Up in Berlin, April 14-16

2010-02-06 Thread Roan Kattouw
one again this year, so I guess folks can always go that route. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] help about the extension about the URL's argument's value transfer to content's area.

2010-02-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
ecific information about what's in these CSV files or what you want the import to do with them. Writing a shell script that converts them to pages and adds them to the wiki shouldn't be hard though. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] help about the extension about the URL's argument's value transfer to content's area.

2010-02-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
ect name auto add into the editor project > template's area (your project name)  .so how should I do and > and which extension I should use? > You can use a hook for that: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/EditFormPreloadText Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search article error (Inner error)

2010-01-29 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/1/29 李琴 : > > Hi all, > I search an article in my localwiki,sometimes it shows the error: > Inner error > > Preprocessor_DOM::preprocessToObj generated invalid XML > This is probably caused by an extension. Try turning off extensions to see if that fixes the problem.

Re: [Wikitech-l] enwiki database dump schedule

2010-01-29 Thread Roan Kattouw
astic comments such as the above. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] checking understanding of file uploading

2010-01-29 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/1/29 Christensen, Courtney : > Does anyone have any clues for me on either: > -how to start figuring out the wiki image upload code? > OR > -another way to get around Windows permissions and create this file for our > users? > Have you tried the importImages.php mainten

Re: [Wikitech-l] (no subject)

2010-01-23 Thread Roan Kattouw
> > Is this right? Or is there something more to do? > Looks OK. Have you tried to see if it works yet? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback for Bugzilla3.4.4

2010-01-19 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/1/19 Chad : > This means you're still looking at the old Bugzilla. DNS entries > are propagating around the world. Works fine once it's switched. Yeah it's switched around for me in San Francisco, might take a while to propagate all the way down to New Zealand.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Upgrade tomorrow (01-19-2010)! -Service will be unavailable

2010-01-18 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/1/18 Sam Reed : > Awesome, thanks! > > Are we going to 3.4.4 then? > I think so, yes, with a new skin. > And whose dinner time? ;) > Lunch time in the office I assume, so that'd be around 20:00-21:00 UTC. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Upgrade tomorrow (01-19-2010)! -Service will be unavailable-

2010-01-18 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/1/18 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > I had my evening meal ... Lunch is in how much time (approximately) ? I'm assuming this is lunchtime in San Francisco, which is between 9 and 10 PM CET. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Some suggestions about the edit page.

2010-01-13 Thread Roan Kattouw
or "this is a stub"  bloat.  Maybe default >> sould be to "show cruft". > > You mean when viewing articles, or editing them?  Cutting out cruft > when editing is something the usability project is looking into, > AFAIK. We're working on that now, yes.

Re: [Wikitech-l] svn switch for wmf-deployment

2010-01-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
emoving the modified flag on the file). Committing stuff to wmf-deployment-something and merging it back is a lot trickier and should ideally be avoided. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikitech-l] svn switch for wmf-deployment

2010-01-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
hat's my experience yes. However, there are currently 11 locally modified files in wmf-deployment, so that'd need to be cleaned up first. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Weekly Report

2010-01-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
eline was written by Erik Zachte but is hardly maintained any more. More generally, bugs can be ignored and left to rot, that happens. You may need to poke developers or whoever maintains EasyTimeline these days to get them to do something about it. Roan

Re: [Wikitech-l] search updates

2010-01-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
for a while, but now it's on all wikis. > Did you do this by changing the backend API action=opensearch uses, i.e. without (significant) changes to the actual AJAX code? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of action=ajax

2010-01-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
equests to do anything but log in will be denied to users without read rights. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] The future of action=ajax

2010-01-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
2010/1/9 Daniel Kinzler : > Oh, also: action=ajax supports http cache control. can this be done with the > api > yet? > Yes, with the maxage and smaxage parameters. AFAIK those are currently broken on Wikimedia, however, because Squid overrides the caching headers set by the API.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bugzilla Vs other trackers.

2010-01-07 Thread Roan Kattouw
nent places) but shouldn't feel /too/ familiar to people that are used to wikis. > Besides, we would be styling it with Vector not Monobook. Monobook is so > last decade! > I do agree that if we restyle anything, we should at least improve its looks :) Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Production machine config

2009-12-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/12/9 Roan Kattouw : > 2009/12/9 William Pietri : >> >> Somone recently suggested this to me: >> >>> In terms of configuration this lists most of whats public: >>> http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ >>> >> >> I just went back to look at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Production machine config

2009-12-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
the configs have moved. Does anybody know the best place > to get that now? > Right now, noc is broken and the config files are nowhere. I've been prodding sysadmins to fix this, will continue doing this more aggressively. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of global file usage?

2009-12-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
ensions/GlobalUsage/GlobalUsage.sql?view=markup Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Unicode equivalence

2009-12-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
-serve is of course faster and easier than juggling between 5.0 and 5.1 all the time. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] JS2

2009-11-27 Thread Roan Kattouw
iously suggested adding an > OutputPage::addJQuery() interface, which removes the need to specify > the filename in the extension and can be designed to avoid the > possibility of duplicate script tags. I still think that this is a > good idea. I agree; I must've missed this the

Re: [Wikitech-l] SQL

2009-11-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
27; => 0 ); other conditions go in the same array, but as one string (like 'rc_namespace != 0', 'rc_namespace < 2' and 'rc_namespace=page_namespace' ). There's also lots of examples in the MediaWiki codebase, just grep for 'select('. Roan Kattouw (Catr

Re: [Wikitech-l] SQL

2009-11-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
;rc_namespace' => 0, >                'rc_title' => 'Wiki', >        ), >        __METHOD__ ); > Note that the GROUP BY condition in the first query is unnecessary, and that the whole thing could be rewritten to SELECT * FROM recentchanges WHERE rc_

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia database

2009-11-23 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/11/23 : > Thanks. but is that page_latest is unique in page table? > Yes. Every revision belongs to one page only (rev_page). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/m

Re: [Wikitech-l] skins

2009-11-23 Thread Roan Kattouw
pecial_pages#The_Setup_File and put require_once("$IP/extensions/MyExtension/MyExtension.php"); in your LocalSettings.php , your special page should show up in Special:Specialpages. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing

Re: [Wikitech-l] skins

2009-11-22 Thread Roan Kattouw
elines at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages (provided making a special page is what you want). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia database

2009-11-21 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/11/21 : > I need use rev_user and page_namespace to do crossing-analysis. How i can > put them in the one table? thanks again. > You don't need to put them in one table, just use a query with a JOIN. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wiki

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia database

2009-11-19 Thread Roan Kattouw
fferent? > If they belong to the same wiki, they're very likely to be the same edit. Of course such duplicates should theoretically not occur. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] {{Encyclopédie recherche}}

2009-11-17 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/11/18 Bilal Abdul Kader : > Greetings, > This template is not being parsed on my french local wiki. Any hints on > that. I did several search on google but I could not find the problem. > Exactly what does happen? Do you see raw template code? Red links? Nothing at all? Roan Katt

Re: [Wikitech-l] Questions about fields in wiki dumps

2009-11-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
history.xml > file? > Yes. In this case, any trace of the revision ever having existed is gone from the dumps, AFAIK. > 3. Are pageIds recycled? If a page is deleted, could its id number be used > for a completely new page in the future?

Re: [Wikitech-l] editpage error

2009-11-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/11/9 李琴 : >   id="updateform"> * Replace the backslashes by forward slashes * Verify that ../includes/update/update.php is the correct relative path to update.php * Verify that Apache isn't configured to deny access to the includes/ directory

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Mediawiki-api] API (query action) ( mediawiki - 1.12 )

2009-11-03 Thread Roan Kattouw
ply pretends action=query doesn't exist in that case. Later versions of MW give a clearer error message. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] strategy discussion

2009-11-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
;t think the American times are correct. 21:00 UTC is indeed 10pm CET and 1pm PST, but it's 4pm EST (note that EDT is Eastern Daylight Time). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Add record to database

2009-10-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
etVal('wpTextbox1'); I'm not sure you want to be messing with EditPage's internals, though, because even most MediaWiki developers think EditPage is scary. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Datamining infoboxes

2009-10-23 Thread Roan Kattouw
it any time soon. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Questions: parser functions, article caching

2009-10-23 Thread Roan Kattouw
POST and > before the 302? To me it looks that it won't have an effect on the next > GET after the redirect. Or, I'd better use Article::doPurge() (or, that > is too slow?). I think purging after the submission of the poll would probably be good enough, so y

Re: [Wikitech-l] Datamining infoboxes

2009-10-23 Thread Roan Kattouw
ould be using it (tl_namespace=10 for the template namespace). Note that the former index can be used as an index on (tl_from) as well. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Problem with Upload API

2009-10-21 Thread Roan Kattouw
ifies the name of the file ON THE WIKI, like the second textbox in Special:Upload does. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Add record to database

2009-10-20 Thread Roan Kattouw
on't want to work with php, use maintenance/importTextFile.php > Please use other variable names than $wgTitle and $wgArticle to reduce confusion with the global variables by the same name. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikit

Re: [Wikitech-l] File Compare Tool

2009-10-19 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/10/19 Arjun Priyananth : > Hi, > Can anyone tell me what is the tool which wikipedia uses for file compare. > (in the wikipedia website it compares two history) what is that tool please > It's the standard GNU diff utility, which is available on most Linux/UNIX systems. Roan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data Processing

2009-10-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
tions about when ES makes sense and when it doesn't are probably better given by people more familiar with databases than me. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Squid status codes, please advice

2009-10-12 Thread Roan Kattouw
t is obviously very > common, but my attempts to guess where it would come up have failed. > If you can grab some examples of URLs generating the 302 response it > might become clear quickly. > URLs with &redlink=1 redirect to the page view with a 302. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data Processing

2009-10-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
e view in recent changes is produced by comparing two texts using an external program like diff; it's not stored anywhere (other than possibly in the objectcache table, for caching purposes). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech

Re: [Wikitech-l] Image view statistics?

2009-10-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
[2]. > The counter field in the prop=info output provides the number of pageviews for the image description page, not for the image itself. Also, the page view counter is disabled on Wikipedia because of performance reasons and because Squid caching would cause it to miss a lot of views and repo

Re: [Wikitech-l] C++ implementation of the MediaWiki API

2009-10-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
of upload support in the api which has since been > fixed. To be clear: implementing the API /itself/ in C++ is not really possible as the API is closely integrated with MediaWiki. Writing a /client library/ for the API in C++ is very much possible, and as Bryan mentions quite easy if you

Re: [Wikitech-l] Has anyone heard of a "file download" issue with Mediawiki / Wikipedia?

2009-10-08 Thread Roan Kattouw
If that's not the problem, then I'm not sure what the problem is. > Alternatively, it could be that a blank page somehow got stuck in Squid. If that's the problem, it should go away when the page is edited or purged. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) _

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Google Earth layer

2009-10-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
ob for you, and is a bit easier to install and use. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Disambiguation while editing

2009-10-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
ginal post to the rest of our team, and I'll point them to the rest of this thread as well. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template editing

2009-09-27 Thread Roan Kattouw
the actual syntax and that can be expanded and collapsed". They probably won't be called anything at all: we don't really need a name for them. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
lbar button that launches a link dialog with title suggestions for internal links. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] JS2 design (was Re: Working towards branching MediaWiki 1.16)

2009-09-26 Thread Roan Kattouw
;) > This mailing list scrubs attachments. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
omplexification of templates; in fact, I believe it will actually encourage simplification, because a nice-looking GUI for a big incomprehensible parameter soup is worth the soup. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
al background; see my earlier point about newbies not editing templates). Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
gt; template to create the new interface. Is this correct? Wait, what? Can you explain this better or provide an example? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
edoing template syntax does not require any changes to the XML format. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
sumptions I mentioned, subsequent reworking of wikitext *wouldn't* *matter*, because the template call editor could easily be ported to the 'new language' or whatever we end up with. It wouldn't put us any further away from fi

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
a more appropriate place to discuss this, just point us there; don't go around blasting us because we failed to read your mind. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Template editing

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
known magic words > * Profit! > We (the usability team) do intend to get 'content folding' (folding template calls and tables into stubs that can be expanded at will) done in the Citron (third) release. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wik

Re: [Wikitech-l] Data Processing

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/9/25 李琴 : > OK,  I see. And the other questions? > > If I edit a page,Whether the page_id change or not? > No, the page_id stays the same when pages are edited, and even when they're moved (in the latter case, page_namespace and/or page_title will change, of course). Roan

Re: [Wikitech-l] Proposal for editing template calls within pages

2009-09-25 Thread Roan Kattouw
he article (the newline thing mentioned earlier fall in the latter category). I agree that this probably causes the weird quirks that make wikitext such a horribly complex language to define and parse, so I think a good way to continue this discussion would be to talk about how i

Re: [Wikitech-l] Beta edit toolbar disabled temporarily

2009-09-18 Thread Roan Kattouw
x live and iDangerMouse confirmed the issue as fixed. Thanks all! Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-17 Thread Roan Kattouw
ime or resources to implement it :) Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Speed of parsing messages (was: how to chang {{SITENAME}})

2009-09-16 Thread Roan Kattouw
tter way to mark a message as "yes, I know this usually uses PLURAL, but this language doesn't need it here", that'd also save useless efforts by the parser in expanding PLURAL. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/9/15 Robert Rohde : > Is there a road map somewhere for features you plan to include but > haven't gotten to yet? > http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Releases Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
ich is available from SVN just like any other extension, so other MW users will benefit (and, in fact, they can already do so). It's not compatible with MW 1.15, however. The Vector skin is in MW core, and will be part of the 1.16 release. Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Security holes in Mediawiki

2009-09-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
wikitech-l, this is more of a tech issue than Foundation > one. > This has been addressed on foundation-l already, but I'll make it extra clear here: all these vulnerabilities reported by these database are only in there because we

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/9/15 Dmitriy Sintsov : > * Roan Kattouw [Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:34:07 > +0200]: >> We're planning to do exactly that in our third release (Citron). Right >> now, we're working on bugfixing and deploying our second release >> (Babaco). >> > What d

Re: [Wikitech-l] Usability initiative

2009-09-15 Thread Roan Kattouw
e it, but I personally > prefer to edit wikitext). > There's still quite a few issues with FCKeditor, and as far as I know it's been decided that the usability project is not gonna cover WYSIWYG; I'm not entirely sure of the official stance here, you'd have to ask Naoko. Roa

Re: [Wikitech-l] api.php cache-control (was: LanguageSelector bla bla bla)

2009-09-11 Thread Roan Kattouw
7;m just the code monkey here :P ) I got no response. If someone tells me what the correct behavior is, I'll happily implement it. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] LanguageSelector on strategy wiki

2009-09-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
tion only, no need to tweak > any squid stuff. > Speaking of which, could we exempt api.php from this? It sets sane Cache-Control: headers on its own, which should not be overwritten. See also https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14402#c11 and downwards

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-10 Thread Roan Kattouw
ause something (like it for instance) to also be > under-utilized... > Seems I'm not the only one who had a completely wrong idea about how variants work. We definitely need more documentation and fame for this system, so its potential doesn't go to waste. Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

Re: [Wikitech-l] Language variants

2009-09-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
uld it be > possible to create "MediaWiki:WORD/pt-br" and "MediaWiki:WORD/pt", and > use them (with {{int:WORD}}) instead of the actual word variant in > wikitext? This isn't likely to be the better solution, but it could be > a first step towards a solut

Re: [Wikitech-l] SQL

2009-09-05 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/9/5 Helder Geovane Gomes de Lima : > But I don't know what to use in the SQL instead of the "WHAT?". > Does anybody knows what should it be? > You should probably use "ORDER BY page_namespace, page_title" there, which will sort by namespace, the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
ompatible) project is a violation of the GPL. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] How we can speed up double brace substitution, Was: how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
Duplicate thread of http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2009-September/044984.html ? Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Constant-folding magic words in messages (was: how to chang {{SITENAME}})

2009-09-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
efined in MagicWord.php (for stuff like {{CURRENTDAY}}) ; we could simply honor them and let messages containing other magic words such as these never expire. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] how to chang {{SITENAME}}

2009-09-01 Thread Roan Kattouw
(or changes to the message in MessagesEn.php , in the case of English) will not get through because the local customization containing the old version overrides it. Roan Kattouw (Catrope) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedi

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