Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-03 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hoi Gerard, it is indeed a huge improvement that finally the source code was made available. This has not yet came to my sight. So GPL violation does not count here. Anyway, it took a long time to actually become free. When we were trying to work with Linterweb it took us months to get some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-03 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
Hi Manuel, False accusations and the expression of willingness to cooperate usually do not go well together, so thank you for setting it right as soon as possible on this mailing list. Okawix is not violating GPL. I had a chat with one of their developers yesterday, and from what I hear from

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You make accusations and they fall flat. You say that the Okawix software is not GPL and it is. You say that the software is proprietary and, because of a lack of communication with YOUR project you call them proprietary... I call it preposterous. When they want to fork, they have every right

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have read your mail and it does not address the point that I am making at all. What you write is not relevant as it does not address the central issue. The central issue is that you accuse another project of infringement on the GPL and you assert that it is proprietary software. Given that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-03 Thread Martin Pascal
: 02 32 40 23 69, fax : 02 32 61 45 26 gsm : 06 13 89 77 32 - Original Message - From: Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Chengbin Zheng wrote: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps processing has been assigned to and completely rewritten by Tomasz Finc (developer at WMF), there has not been made any assignment concerning HTML dumps. We had a Wikipedia Offline meeting at

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Chengbin, ZIM is an upcoming standard for using HTML contents offline. It is derived from the Zeno file format used on the german Wikipedia DVDs since 2006 (ZIM = Zeno IMproved). There are currently several reader applications for it, for instance the zimreader made by the openZIM project

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Chengbin Zheng
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Hi Chengbin, ZIM is an upcoming standard for using HTML contents offline. It is derived from the Zeno file format used on the german Wikipedia DVDs since 2006 (ZIM = Zeno IMproved). There are currently

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2009 schrieb Chengbin Zheng: Well, as I said, Archos devices are not computers. They're merely portable video players with an internet browser. That's why I seek the static HTML version of Wikipedia. I see. But maybe it is possible to install a reader or at least the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For you information Okawix is localised at translatewiki.net. Thanks, GerardM http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Okawix 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch Hi Chengbin, hi list, static.wikimedia.org is currently not being updated and while the dumps

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Manuel Schneider
I want to add that Okawix uses code from the pre-ZIM GPL'ed ZenoReader and ZenoWriter which has been developed by the openZIM team before we started ZIM, but they changed it to be incompatible with Zeno and ZIM. So Okawix can be regarded to be as proprietary as well as also a GPL violation.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Roan Kattouw
2009/9/2 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Why do you say that it is proprietary and why do you state that there is a GPL violation ? Making accusations like this without providing evidence is not what I expect. [snip] 2009/9/2 Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Siebrand Mazeland
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Roan Kattouw Verzonden: woensdag 2 september 2009 18:10 Taking code from a GPLed project and putting it in a non-GPLed (or non-GPL-compatible) project is a violation of the GPL. Well, that is stating the obvious. The question is: what makes Okawix violate

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I referred to a place where the code can be found. The code states that it is GPL code. So what are you saying... That it is not ??? Thanks, GerardM 2009/9/2 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2009/9/2 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, Why do you say that it is

[Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-01 Thread Chengbin Zheng
I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true! This is already tempting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-01 Thread Platonides
Chengbin Zheng wrote: I bring this old issue up because I want to know if (or if not) progress (or plans) are made to update the static HTML version of Wikipedia. BH photos just leaked the next generation of Archos portable media players. Unbelievably, the rumors of a 500GB version is true!

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-01 Thread Benjamin Lees
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Chengbin Zheng chengbinzh...@gmail.comwrote: BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. Based on some quick extrapolation (the smaller dumps seem to be compressed at ~21-22x), it seems like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Any news to update static HTML Wikipedia?

2009-09-01 Thread Robert Rohde
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Benjamin Leesemufarm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Chengbin Zheng chengbinzh...@gmail.comwrote: BTW, does anyone know what is the size of the current static HTML English Wikipedia version uncompressed? Thanks. Based on some quick