I made some mockups to illustrate some of the ideas on captchas that could
be less problematic for non-English speakers, improve the general UX and
rely on images from commons.
- Panorama captcha:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Panorama-captcha-idea.png
Based on tagging parts of a
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:59 AM, Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I made some mockups to illustrate some of the ideas on captchas that could
be less problematic for non-English speakers, improve the general UX and
rely on images from commons.
- Panorama captcha:
On 31 July 2012 22:25, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Risker wrote:
Putting on my checkuser hat for a moment - yes, please please look at
finding a different CAPTCHA process - the cross-wiki spamming by bots
that
are able to break the CAPTCHA is becoming overwhelming. This issue has
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
If the situation is as dire as it sounds, it shouldn't be difficult to find
a few resources to throw at the problem. In a discussion like this,
examples
of particular problematic behavior (links!) are always most helpful to
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
ezalvare...@wikimedia.org wrote:
After working on campus with new
editors in Brazil, I've checked this is a real obstacle, since most
people here cannot ready English at all.
I'd like to know if there are plans to solve this issue -
Sounds like captchas is something you want to make plug and play, and
use some external project that is evolving quickly to stay in the
winning side of a arms race.
Also sounds like captchas is something you want to be handled by
locals, to avoid the situation a chinese wiki with a english
On 30 July 2012 15:22, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/07/12 15:28, Pau Giner wrote:
From the UX perspective, a captcha is always an obstacle for the
interaction flow.
I agree. But when you're spammed to death if there's no captcha,
you end up accepting it as a necessary evil.
On 31 July 2012 13:53, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 30 July 2012 15:22, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/07/12 15:28, Pau Giner wrote:
From the UX perspective, a captcha is always an obstacle for the
interaction flow.
I agree. But when you're spammed
On 31/07/12 19:53, James Forrester wrote:
I agree. But when you're spammed to death if there's no captcha,
you end up accepting it as a necessary evil.
Just to jump in here, it's not actually clear that our CAPTCHAs work
at all at this point (per Tim's e-mail from last year of being able to
Risker wrote:
Putting on my checkuser hat for a moment - yes, please please look at
finding a different CAPTCHA process - the cross-wiki spamming by bots that
are able to break the CAPTCHA is becoming overwhelming. This issue has
been reported separately, and there may be a different fix, but
1 Август 2012 г. 6:26:02 пользователь MZMcBride (z...@mzmcbride.com) написал:
Risker wrote:
Putting on my checkuser hat for a moment - yes, please please look at
finding a different CAPTCHA process - the cross-wiki spamming by bots that
are able to break the CAPTCHA is becoming
From the UX perspective, a captcha is always an obstacle for the
interaction flow.
Reducing the complexity of user interaction when solving the captcha can
benefit all kinds of users but also solve problems for non-English speakers.
Checkbox and honeypot-based captchas avoid most of the problems
Those checkbox and honeypot captchas look like junk to me.
Firstly the checkbox captcha. It relies entirely on the assumption that
spambots don't have JavaScript. It also assumes that spambots won't simply
get wise and throw a few regexp tests to figure out when the plugin is
sitting on
On 30/07/12 15:28, Pau Giner wrote:
From the UX perspective, a captcha is always an obstacle for the
interaction flow.
I agree.
But when you're spammed to death if there's no captcha, you end up
accepting it as a necessary evil.
But don't let this pessimistic view stop you from proposing new
Usability of CAPTCHAs Or usability issues in CAPTCHA design, Jeff
Yan and Ahmad Salah El Ahmad (Newcastle University, UK)
http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/jeff.yan/soups08.pdf
Pages 3 and 4:
Friendly to foreigners? In theory, text-based CAPTCHAs are
intuitive to world-wide users and have little
On 28/07/12 16:55, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote:
In the conclusion:
Contrary to the common belief, text-based CAPTCHAs can be difficult
for foreigners.
It is worth reading and likely the same for references there in. The
first sentence is similar to what I have experience in 3 classes.
2012/7/26 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Thet don't need to read English. They just need to type the letters they
see on the image. Sure, you can have a small advantage if you know what
letters could make a valid English word (or if you have the captcha
dictionary installed), but a
I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed by default in all operation systems, as
far as I know. Moreover very interesting problems can appear if this
feature would be implemented. Who will decide what captcha language is
used?
Maybe present three or four different capcha's with different scripts,
requiring only one to be filled out?
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed
On 27.07.2012, 22:09 Yury wrote:
I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed by default in all operation systems, as
far as I know. Moreover very interesting problems can appear if this
feature would be implemented. Who will
2012/7/28 Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com:
On 27.07.2012, 22:09 Yury wrote:
I think that making Russian, Korean and Arabian captcha is really bad idea.
English keyboad layout is installed by default in all operation systems, as
far as I know. Moreover very interesting problems can appear if
On 27/07/12 16:31, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote:
2012/7/26 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
Thet don't need to read English. They just need to type the letters they
see on the image. Sure, you can have a small advantage if you know what
letters could make a valid English word (or if you
Hi all,
how are you? I'd like to know about the possibility of solving an old
issue with CAPTCHA for Wikipedias in languages other than English.
This bug
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5309
was created in 2006. There is a discussion here about having CAPTCHA
in other languages
2012/7/26 Everton Zanella Alvarenga ezalvare...@wikimedia.org:
was created in 2006. There is a discussion here about having CAPTCHA
in other languages from February 2012
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/51951/
Sorry, I meant 2011.
--
Everton Zanella
Is there a such thing as localized captchas?
And should turning off account/ip creation throttling for events also
turn off the captcha requirement?
- Hunter F.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
ezalvare...@wikimedia.org wrote:
2012/7/26 Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Ehm, I know that I'll sound like a broken record, but look at the
WikiCAPTCHA proposal: it's just a proposal, but it could address the
problem just by fetching books from the relevant Wikisource.
Links in: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
Nemo
On 26/07/12 14:58, Hunter Fernandes wrote:
Is there a such thing as localized captchas?
And should turning off account/ip creation throttling for events also
turn off the captcha requirement?
- Hunter F.
It's really a matter of configuration; the core captcha code is
intrinsically
On 26/07/12 15:53, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote:
Hi all,
how are you? I'd like to know about the possibility of solving an old
issue with CAPTCHA for Wikipedias in languages other than English.
This bug
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5309
was created in 2006. There
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