Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Your assumption is that the metadata from Wikidata will be essentially the same. It is not. Because the metadata will be essentially different, I ask for attention. At this moment in time all the metadata is essentially English. This will be no longer the case with Wikidata. The data that is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On Mar 9, 2014 1:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Your assumption is that the metadata from Wikidata will be essentially the same. It is not. Because the metadata will be essentially different, I ask for attention. At this moment in time all the metadata is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, On the Wikidata roadmap it says that Commons will be targeted for inclusion in the second half of 2014. This will have a big impact on Commons. Consequently it will have a big impact on the things that you are discussing. Chances are that much of what you come up with now will be obsolete in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 11:50 +0100, Gerard Meijssen wrote: On the Wikidata roadmap it says that Commons will be targeted for inclusion in the second half of 2014. This will have a big impact on Commons. Consequently it will have a big impact on the things that you are discussing. Chances are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items refer to Creators or Institutions they will refer to Wikidata proper. This will

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, This overview seems quite reasonable to me until this point: on the other hand it [using ie dependency injection] would mean a lot of gadgets break every time we change things, and some possibly do even if we don't. I am unsure how you are reaching that conclusion. Dependency

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Chris McMahon
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, == The state of unit tests == We discussed these issues, and decided that writing the tests was still a good decision at the time, but once we are done with the major code refactorings, we should take some time

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 March 2014 15:13, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org wrote: This process is something that I think would be of great interest to a variety of teams: * When to throw away old tests * When to create new tests (TDD style, before writing the code that satisfies the test?) * When to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Chris McMahon
Also see Michael Feathers' response to Coplien via Twitter: http://michaelfeathers.typepad.com/michael_feathers_blog/2008/06/the-flawed-theo.html / https://twitter.com/mfeathers/statuses/441598005515669504 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 March 2014

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread rupert THURNER
+1 If this helps to get it on the list Am 07.03.2014 12:28 schrieb Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Hoi, When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 March 2014 17:15, Chris McMahon cmcma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Also see Michael Feathers' response to Coplien via Twitter: http://michaelfeathers.typepad.com/michael_feathers_blog/2008/06/the-flawed-theo.html / https://twitter.com/mfeathers/statuses/441598005515669504 With which I and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 7 mrt. 2014, at 12:27, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items

[Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-06 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, the multimedia team [1] had a chat about some architectural issues with MultimediaViewer [2] today, and Robla has pointed out that we should publish such discussions on wikitech-l to make sure we do no reinvent to many wheels, so here goes. Comments pointing out all the obvious solutions