Re: [WISPA] EarthLink Unwires Anaheim, Announces Wholesale Program

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
And what level of support do they include with that plan? And how much do they pay, to get someone to help it work reliably? (engineered external antennas and such). And how much do local ISP's pay, that want to share use of the WIFI network? What value can the local ISP add, that will justify

Re: [WISPA] War Driving Police

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
I have yet to understand how having open WiFi poses a threat to anyone. How do you figure? Identify theft! Consume your bandwidth! Conduit for terrorists to cause havoc without being able to be found! (possibly making end users liable for havoc). I believe a customer has just as much

[WISPA] VOIP testing tools

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
In the next few weeks, I want to run comparison tests between various radio manufacturers that we use, on its abilty to pass number of possible quality small packet VOIP sessions. Any suggestions on FREE testing tools that may allow such testing, both for testing VOIP Quality and Generating

[WISPA] Unlicensed channel options greater than 19Ghz

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
I have a number of links that are about 3 miles in length, and looking for the MOST COST EFFECTIVE solution to create high capacity throughput (45 mbps FDX or 100mbps HDX or higher), and conserve the precious unlicensed spectrum under 6Ghz used for PtMP last mile to end user (5.3 and 5.8 Ghz,

[WISPA] Re: [WISP] Clearwire is coming to my area. (eek?)

2006-07-03 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006, D. Ryan Spott wrote: And on the RUS loans deal, does anyone know who to complain to if I don't feel there was adequate legal notice to the RUS loan being applied for in my area? Did you file your form 477? Just wondering if the government may think that there is no

Re: [WISPA] EarthLink Unwires Anaheim, Announces Wholesale Program

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
The primary difference being that in the Canopy Fixed Wireless you are including end user CPE. The largest cost to detur take rate when WISPS make subs pay for it. Its likely that one can assume that many of the subscribers will need to install outdoor equipment (adding $100-$300 BUCKS), to

RE: [WISPA] EarthLink Unwires Anaheim, Announces Wholesale Program

2006-07-03 Thread Charles Wu
Hi Tom, The WHOLE PURPOSE of a WiFi Mesh Network Strategy is to AVOID THE COST OF THE CPE TRUCK ROLL Now -- whether this theory works in practice is a whole nother issue -Charles P.S. FWIW - personally, I find the the concept (from an ROI perspective) of a service provider WiFi mesh to be a

Re: [WISPA] Unlicensed channel options greater than 19Ghz

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
Your good with FSO for up to about a mile. So FSO is not good for 3 mile links. (Atleast not if they are meant to be highly reliable backbone links, which is my application). Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sam

RE: [WISPA] War Driving Police

2006-07-03 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Tom's presenting very sound points. First, it's dangerous. Anyone can sit in a car in front of your house with a laptop, download nasty stuff, and put it into your shared folders...then inform on you. Or, they can otherwise use your Internet connection for undesirable activities. Or, just

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire is coming to my area. (eek?)

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
Clearwire may be the party that is applying for all of the RUS loans in our rural areas. Well he won;t be getting RUS loans, if you are protesting as you should be, as RUS loans are for unserved areas, and you obviously are serving it already. Competing against Clearwire is no different

Re: [WISPA] EarthLink Unwires Anaheim, Announces Wholesale Program

2006-07-03 Thread Tom DeReggi
I had a quick interesting conversation with Mobile Pro at WCA. And he brought up a good point about, why should we discourage investment in this industry. I say, if someone thinks they can make mesh work, good for them, I'll even help them if I can to find ways for it to work better, as long as

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire is coming to my area. (eek?)

2006-07-03 Thread Tim Kerns
We have Clearwire in some of the area we serve. I think we have lost one customer to them, but we have gotten customers that could not use them. In the area where they serve (Modesto, Ceres, Turlock of Ca.) they are trying to get the populated areas, competing against DSL and Cable. They

RE: [WISPA] EarthLink Unwires Anaheim, Announces Wholesale Program

2006-07-03 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Some of the support-free, subscription-free, cost-free models may work that way in some sense. That is, if you want to avail yourself of the free cloud you need to get a savvy friend or employ a nerd-for-hire to get you hooked up. The provider simply inhales deeply, exhales the cloud, puts up

[WISPA] US MikroTik Certification training class St Louis, MO July 30-Aug 3rd.

2006-07-03 Thread John Scrivner
*** This is a paid advertisement which has been approved by the WISPA Board of Directors.*** WISP-Training.com will be doing a 4-day training session covering Mikrotik's RouterOS software. This training session will be held in St. Louis, MO on Jul 31-Aug 3. Find out more at

[WISPA] US MikroTik Certification training class St Louis, MO July 30-Aug 3rd

2006-07-03 Thread John Scrivner
*** This is a paid advertisement which has been approved by the WISPA Board of Directors.*** WISP-Training.com will be doing a 4-day training session covering Mikrotik's RouterOS software. This training session will be held in St. Louis, MO on Jul 31-Aug 3. Find out more at

[WISPA] Thanks to Butch Evans

2006-07-03 Thread John Scrivner
I just wanted to send out my personal thanks to Butch Evans for taking the positive step of asking how to advertise on the WISPA lists and then actually following through and paying as he did. We have seen many attempts by distributors, vendors, etc. to use WISPA resources to their advantage