Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Tim Kerns
Ok Dennis you said the same in a later post From: Tim Kerns Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection Dennis, I think you are taking this to literal. I have the right to detect and prohibit any wireless access point

Re: [WISPA] Rogue Accesspoint Detection

2015-01-06 Thread Tim Kerns
Dennis, I think you are taking this to literal. I have the right to detect and prohibit any wireless access point that is “connected” to my network. I do not have the right to bar an access point that is within my area of control from operating as long as it is not using my network for conne

Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

2014-11-14 Thread Tim Kerns
. Moo. -Mike On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Tim Kerns wrote: Manteca in the early 80’s had stockyards The smell is most likely residual... From: Mike Lyon Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for service Which is odd

Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

2014-11-14 Thread Tim Kerns
Manteca in the early 80’s had stockyards The smell is most likely residual... From: Mike Lyon Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for service Which is odd, because Manteca at 205 and 99 DOES smell like a bathroom. Think they accidentall

Re: [WISPA] 2dbi vs 3dbi vs 5 dbi vs 100mw vs 400mw

2014-11-13 Thread Tim Kerns
A little caution ... transmit power does not necessarily equate to speed. Speed is a combination of signal strength, signal quality (lack of noise or interference) and distance. And doubling the output power will not result in double the speed. Transmit power will give you further distance, but

Re: [WISPA] [SPAM] "FCC Confirms Delay of New Net Neutrality Rules Until 2015"

2014-11-12 Thread Tim Kerns
Don't you think they will throttle us also... Make us pay for fast lane just like their other customers... only worst for us.. think ESPN Don't misunderstand me... I don't like the net neutrality as its being proposed, but I also don't want some services favored over others and forced to pay m

Re: [WISPA] When the power goes off

2014-11-10 Thread Tim Kerns
or plug a cheap cpe in the ac outlet... run a ping monitor to it... when power is off pings stop.. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:35 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] When the power goes off Plug in a Sitemonitor and use a battery backup. With Powercode y

Re: [WISPA] AC Voltage Regulator??

2014-11-10 Thread Tim Kerns
Gino, that sounds like the issue we had... have your electric company check to see if you are dropping a phase at the transformer servicing you. From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] AC Voltage Regulator?? We have a APC ups

Re: [WISPA] AC Voltage Regulator??

2014-11-10 Thread Tim Kerns
We found when using Tripplite UPS the battery would eventually go dead. The UPS would use battery power to boost the voltage, but remain on battery for a period of time (about a minute) to ensure the voltage would be stable. About the time it switched back we would get another drop. It never ha

Re: [WISPA] Re-Offer Contract From Mine & Engergy

2014-03-21 Thread Tim Kerns
Wow... can I get in on this too !! From: mailto:cdfr...@wp.pl Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 4:17 AM Subject: [WISPA] Re-Offer Contract From Mine & Engergy Re-Offer Contract From Mine & Engergy Engr. Kapano

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

2014-03-04 Thread Tim Kerns
When I try to access it, I get redirected to Ikano and mail is not one of their listed products... can someone clarify, please... Thanks From: Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting we started when i

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not thefailedpower companyBPL trials)

2013-12-29 Thread Tim Kerns
I’ve used the Trendnet units at home and at a couple clients. Not real impressed, but I can get connectivity in other parts of the home without expense and time of running Cat5. I don’t remember the throughput, but it was no way near specs. I had one that was also running with the dish slingsh

Re: [WISPA] Fwd: Runcom Announce 2 NEW 4G/WIMAX exciting products 900MHZ Frequency Range

2013-07-16 Thread Tim Kerns
"·Low susceptibility to Interference – due to GPS synchronization" How do they figure this? I think it should be Low susceptibility due to SELF interference. 900 in my area, California Central Valley east of the Bay Area, is almost useless for 900 as the power companies have put in smart meters

Re: [WISPA] Another Ubiquity question

2012-10-18 Thread Tim Kerns
batteries, 2 in series, then the 2 sets in parallel., most equipment is taken from the 24 vdc, one switch takes power from the 12 vdc. Why does this not keep all batteries charged equally, when using the solar at +27 volts. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, October

[WISPA] No mail

2012-02-04 Thread Tim Kerns
Rick, I have not received mail for any wispa accounts in two or more days. Come to think of it I didn’t receive the usual “you are subscribed to” messages either. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. WISPA Wants You

[WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet 5M

2009-08-05 Thread Tim Kerns
ought 5400 was, but didn't think 5500 to 5680 was. Thanks, Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup

Re: [WISPA] email black lists

2009-06-30 Thread Tim Kerns
Marlon, Also try this site http://whatismyipaddress.com/staticpages/index.php/is-my-ip-address-blacklisted it looks on several list for you. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 9:47 AM Subject: [WISPA] email black list

Re: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna downangle?

2008-10-29 Thread Tim Kerns
Try this http://www.terabeam.com/support/calculations/index.php - Original Message - From: "Pat O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] Does anybody have a calculator to determine antenna downangle? > Yes I'm a WISP newbie. We h

Re: [WISPA] Court Injunction

2008-08-05 Thread Tim Kerns
Jerry, >From where you are located, I believe you are being hit by a new repeater on Mt Diablo. It seems the HAMs were using another freq and it was interfering with military operations. They kept reducing power til it was down to nothing. They then decided to use 900 mhz, it is only going to g

Re: [WISPA] 2012 - The End of the Internet

2008-06-19 Thread Tim Kerns
And the "End of the Internet" is also timed to happen the same year as the "End of the World" this is according to the "End" of the Mayan calendar. Just what you wanted to know... lol :) - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'"

Re: [WISPA] star os config help- clarifying my message

2008-06-11 Thread Tim Kerns
I don't think that StarOS will let you put addresses from the same subnet on all interfaces. If you try this AND not notice, it will add the address but disable it (this is shown by the easy to miss * by it). This will result in the same thing though and that is not able to get into the unit. It

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cheating spouse software

2008-02-28 Thread Tim Kerns
Try this link, it is not software to track cheating spouse, but it will track a cell phone... just put in a number. http://www.sat-gps-locate.com/english/index.html Tim CV-Access - Original Message - From: "Cliff - Home" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, Fe

Re: [WISPA] Small generators - cheap or inexpensive?

2008-02-18 Thread Tim Kerns
John, We had to run for over a month on generator at the end of last year. (long story but the place where we contract for one of our towers defaulted on their loan and the bank took over it took over a month and a break in to get the power restored). My point was we used one of the 1000 wa

Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??

2007-10-25 Thread Tim Kerns
I've seen) it does not seek a list of SSID wireless connection. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:02 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh?? Anthony Our complete RWR HPG produ

Re: [WISPA] Alternative to Meraki mesh??

2007-10-25 Thread Tim Kerns
I understand that Ruckus is going to release a mesh system. I have not heard when, but I believed it to be soon. Tim - Original Message - From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alternative

[WISPA] XBOX using 2.4 ghz for game controllers

2007-10-05 Thread Tim Kerns
req hop for the wireless game consoles. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispco

Re: [WISPA] Towers on grain legs

2007-09-14 Thread Tim Kerns
. Now the picture of the really handsome guy on the platform (me ... lol ) is how we have installed a dish for backhaul and an omni for AP. These are secured to the railing structure on the platform. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EM

[WISPA] Fw: Belgian court rules that ISPs must block file-sharing

2007-07-05 Thread Tim Kerns
Subject: Belgian court rules that ISPs must block file-sharing http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,134159-c,internetlegalissues/article.html Once again the ISP can do anything, especially what others have been un able to do.. Some of you may have see this discussed on the Nanog list. T

Clearwire and external antennas WAS: [WISPA] Copper Plant

2007-06-15 Thread Tim Kerns
The reply we received from Clearwire is "We are not doing external units anymore because they cause problems with performance at the AP's." We were very glad to hear that... Anyone else hear this or is it just maybe a local thing?? Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - O

Re: [WISPA] ISP's Required to Block Sites

2007-06-13 Thread Tim Kerns
statement. If you click on his name, it will give info about this prof and his e-mail address. I know I sent an e-mail to him pointing out his errors. Tim Kerns CV-Access - Original Message - From: "Sam Tetherow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] LIST HIJACKED AGAIN

2007-06-12 Thread Tim Kerns
LOL.. wonder how many understand 7500.. Tim - Original Message - From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] LIST HIJACKED AGAIN Please squawk 7500 and continue on course... -Original Message- F

Re: [WISPA] MT Babble

2007-06-12 Thread Tim Kerns
ned components, but I don't see the FCC number where it was certified as a complete system. Did I miss something? Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Dawn DiPietro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, June 12,

Re: [WISPA] MT Babble

2007-06-11 Thread Tim Kerns
in don't we? At $20 more per, 100 units is $2000 and 1000 units is $20,000. So break even for a vendor is less than 200 units going by the cost Jack has shared with us. I would think that vendors are looking to sell a lot more than just 200 units, aren't they? Tim Kerns CV-A

Re: [WISPA] I repeat, Who is STRICTLY legal 100%?

2007-06-10 Thread Tim Kerns
Ok... we've been down this road before. STOP NOW, There is no need to rip WISPA apart AGAIN over this issue. This is the general list and all of these messages are open to everyone through Google search. This continued debate on certification will only in the end destroy WISPA. I ask again STO

Re: [WISPA] Want a bucket truck?

2007-06-05 Thread Tim Kerns
WE have 2 trucks for installs and signal checks. The 1st we bought 2 years ago and it is a large step van with a boom bucket on top. Kind of looks like a bread truck with half the front windshield cut away for the bucket. It has a reach of 44 feet from the ground. The 2nd truck we bought about

Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE

2007-05-30 Thread Tim Kerns
MSRP $ 159 - Original Message - From: "Jory Privett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nice CPE Any clue on a cost for these? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROT

[WISPA] Is ATT now a SPAMMER???

2007-05-17 Thread Tim Kerns
. 1 million SPAMs for $299 and 50 million SPAMS for $3000. Thanks, Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] commercial router

2007-05-07 Thread Tim Kerns
Look at Sonic Wall, they have a subscription service for filtering, but will set you back $700-$1000. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: [WISPA] commercial router Hi All, I have a custo

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Tim Kerns
Speaking of CALEA Statements. how many receive the newsletter from NetEqualizer? I thought it was really direct and straight forward, specifically about "compliance" My disclaimer: I don't have any connection to Netequalizer, I don't even have one of their products. Tim *

Re: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ?

2007-04-28 Thread Tim Kerns
I believe the FCC has the authority to fine up to $10k per incident. - Original Message - From: "Smith, Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] School WiFi / Wireless info ? how much is the fine ? Where's it spe

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the, Commission's Rules for unlicensed devices and, equipment approval

2007-04-26 Thread Tim Kerns
Please see inline... - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the,Commission's Rules for unlicensed devices and, equipment

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the, Commission's Rules for unlicensed devices and, equipment approval

2007-04-26 Thread Tim Kerns
- Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181> This new ruling is clearly aimed at the Dells, HPs, Toshibas etc. of the world. Not at us. If you can find a source at the FCC that'll say otherwise I'd LOVE to hear from them. 90% of the networks out there have changed

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the, Commission's Rules for unlicensed devices and, equipment approval

2007-04-26 Thread Tim Kerns
unit. >>>>> >>>>> I think what the FCC is doing is: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Providing eight criteria that clarify the definition of what a >>>>> legal modular assembly is. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Allowing some

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Tim Kerns
trol element" (the new term that the FCC formerly called the module "firmware") could theoretically be interfaced with and control more than one "radio front end" (the amplifier and antenna-connecting) section. Of course, that's just my interpretation. I'll be

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Tim Kerns
Am I reading this correctly Does this mean that if a mfg of a mini pci radio gets it certified with different antenna, that it then can be put into ANY base unit and be certified? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this what we have been asking for? Tim - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz Amps

2007-04-22 Thread Tim Kerns
Matt, Is this latest news? The last I heard was adi had certified their board in their enclosure with a couple different antennas, but never heard what OS they were running. Also, to be certified you would have to purchase the units pre-assembled from ADI. Remember the certification goes to t

Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Kerns
ry customer I provide service to. I think we are maybe looking at these units to do something different than the original intent and that is not as a hot spot, but as a "local" mesh network. Thanks, Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Chase Phillips&quo

Re: [WISPA] Main Street USA

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Kerns
rolled by a 3rd party, or not have access because the Meraki site is either not available or running slow as it seemed to be last Friday. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Dylan Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Warning Fradulent Company

2007-04-05 Thread Tim Kerns
IS THIS INFO CURRENT I seem to recall a few months ago what I believe is the same exchange of e-mails. Tim - Original Message - From: "Jeff Broadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 7:17 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Warning Fradulent Co

Re: [WISPA] Form 445

2007-02-12 Thread Tim Kerns
John. Include CV-Access, Inc. Thanks, Tim Kerns - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 445 Kris Twomey says he can handle our filing on b

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Tim Kerns
I spoke to support @ PacWireless over 18 months ago, I was told they were looking at the mount, but never heard if it was redesigned. I might add that using the grid in the horizontal position, it does not flex as much. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Scot

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Tim Kerns
Mac, Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I have 4 in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the wind. I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearma

Re: [WISPA] high throughput backhaul options

2006-12-12 Thread Tim Kerns
Matt, The Orthagon 600 series is supposed to do 300 mb on a 30 Mhz channel. I believe they do this using both vert and hor polarity. Is this the system you are out growing? Tim Kerns - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'

Re: [WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today?

2006-12-01 Thread Tim Kerns
As a common carrier I can understand and agree. What about providing E-mail services to our customers, do we then need to keep copies of all e-mail that comes into or goes out our server? Tim Kerns - Original Message - From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: &qu

[WISPA] New Recording LAW in effect today?

2006-12-01 Thread Tim Kerns
. sell alot of storage devices... The Foxnews report says the requirement begins today and as usual not a lot of detail. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http

Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Kerns
a TV rotor? These can be controlled over Ethernet or through a wireless camera connection. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:21 AM Subject: [WI

Re: [WISPA] ISPCON - Santa Clara Nov. 7-9

2006-10-24 Thread Tim Kerns
From CV-Access:   Tim Kerns and Chuck Profito will be attending. We are located just 50 miles due east of Santa Clara in the Central Valley of Calif.   Tim         From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R.Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:00

Re: [WISPA] WHY? ----- ooops!!!!

2006-08-24 Thread Tim Kerns
Qwest on data retention laws: Oops   http://news.com.com/Qwest+on+data+retention+laws+Oops/2100-1028-6108926.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e703   Looks like someone may be updating their resume.     - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursd

Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story

2006-08-18 Thread Tim Kerns
Tom, Am I missing your reply .? this is the 2nd post from you this am that is only you signature. - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango Atlas success story Tom De

Re: [WISPA] Network Storm

2006-08-10 Thread Tim Kerns
Ron,   Are you seeing icmp to other IP's that are unreachable along with the icmp to 0.0.0.0 ?   I have seen this in the past and looked like it was coming from a linksys router. I suspected the router was randomly replying to other's IP's, basically causing loops. To isolate I had to disable

Re: [WISPA] Clearwire is coming to my area. (eek?)

2006-07-03 Thread Tim Kerns
miles from their towers. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Clearwire is coming to my area. (eek?) >Clearwire may be th

Re: [WISPA] Critical Time for White Spaces

2006-06-23 Thread Tim Kerns
Thanks John, Chuck Profito with CV-Access, Inc. has been making the calls for our company. On some he is just getting a recording and leaving a message. Thanks again for pushing us on this, Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Chadd Thompson" <[EM

Re: [WISPA] What list is public and which is private???

2006-03-29 Thread Tim Kerns
John, I have this problem all the time trying to figure which is the general and which is the members only we need to change one so it is more apparent which we are replying to. My thoughts, Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EM

Re: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)

2006-03-11 Thread Tim Kerns
Mark dream list. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] My CPE dream list (what does yours do, or wish it did?)

Re: [WISPA] ping utility

2006-02-11 Thread Tim Kerns
Glad you found your problem, but those of us who are lazy http://www.radmin.com/download/index.php and look for IPScanner windows based program which will scan a subnet. - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] satellite imaging company?

2005-10-05 Thread Tim Kerns
George, Google's Good Earth, with the plus ($28 a year, I think) you can do path, line etc. Sometimes the pics are 2-3 yrs old, but most of my area is less than a year. It has enough detail for me... I can see my horses (be it shadows) on my ranch. - Original Message - From: "Geor

Re: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW! This means YOU!

2005-09-28 Thread Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc. has completed filing Your Confirmation Number is: '2005929700256 ' Thanks John for the heads up.. - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 10:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] I need 100% participation RIGHT NOW

Re: [WISPA] test

2005-08-09 Thread Tim Kerns
It's slow on all the list I'm on I was wondering the same thing. Tim - Original Message - From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] test Man is the list this dead ? OR - do I have mail server t