- Original Message -
From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC news
Typical, how many can believe that these guys pushing this: The plan
would involve the FCC buying
Typical, how many can believe that these guys pushing this: The plan would
involve the FCC buying spectrum back from TV folk and
then auctioning it off to wireless folk make at least a $100,000 clear a
year? Plus the lobbyist and what they make? We pay their salaries as American
citizens! Most
I found this interesting.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/28/fcc_mulls_tv_spectrum_auction_for_broadband/
The US Federal Communications Commission is considering a plan that
would reclaim some precious airwaves from the country's television
broadcasters and reinvent them as wireless
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Larry Yunker
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
I got a water bill last month for $210 and wasn't angry. My bill the
month before was only $30 dollars. I
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From: David Hulsebus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
If the 10 % didn't know what their usage patterns were I probably
wouldn't implement this cap. I have a many
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- Original Message -
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
More on this...Many of us have not already
Yet anither reason us (WISP) and all Cable and DSL(telcos) will go to a
usage based systemno more all you can eat. I am not sure, but I bet
they (FCC) have no control on us in that circumstance.
I would have to disagree. It would appear that in this case, the FCC would
be treating an
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Behalf Of Larry Yunker
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:09 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
Yet anither reason us (WISP) and all Cable and DSL(telcos) will go to a
usage based systemno more all you can eat. I am not sure, but I bet
they (FCC
7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
Well, what you have to do is include a number of gigs that cover typical
and
slightly above typical usage. Structure it so only power users or P2P
users
would top that usage.
For some new projects I'm working on, I'm considering
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insert witty tagline here
- Original Message -
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
From a business standpoint, I do not see why
usage based means tiers of prices... No matter what you tell people or how
you warn them, if your bill this month is $100 and last month it was $25,
they WILL BE ANGRY.
Further, automating systems to bill per gig is kind of a pain.
The answer, then, I guess is... convenience.
We were
I got a water bill last month for $210 and wasn't angry. My bill the
month before was only $30 dollars. I knew what 25,000 gallons of water
to fill my pool was going to cost me.
I have 60 customers that I loose money on every month. I can afford the
implementation for what I will gain in
I got a water bill last month for $210 and wasn't angry. My bill the
month before was only $30 dollars. I knew what 25,000 gallons of water
to fill my pool was going to cost me.
The problem with that analogy is two fold:
(1) you can physically see 25,000 gallons of water that you intentionally
] On
Behalf Of Larry Yunker
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:52 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
I got a water bill last month for $210 and wasn't angry. My bill the
month before was only $30 dollars. I knew what 25,000 gallons of water
to fill my pool
- Original Message -
From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
I got a water bill last month for $210 and wasn't angry. My bill the
month before was only $30 dollars
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From: David Hulsebus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
I got a water bill last month for $210 and wasn't angry. My bill the
month before was only $30 dollars. I knew what 25,000
It looks like the FCC now has the votes necessary to sanction Comcast for
its P2P throttling.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080725-hammer-drops-at-last-fcc-oppos
es-comcast-p2p-throttling.html
It's set to be vote on officially next Friday. This is a disturbing
decision if it
- Original Message -
From: Larry Yunker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:36 AM
Subject: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
It looks like the FCC now has the votes necessary to sanction Comcast for
its P2P
It's set to be vote on officially next Friday. This is a disturbing
decision if it implies that ISPs will no longer be allowed to control P2P
traffic flow originating from their own customers on their own networks.
I agree. Will this also mean that we will no longer be allowed to
block ports
I have said this over and over in various forums: Throttling/shaping
on a per-application basis is not a good idea. Bandwidth caps and
pay-per-bit are the correct way to handle bandwidth hogs. The FCC
doesn't care how you limit, as long as you apply it equally to all
bandwidth types.
for not
telling folks. I hope that full disclosure allows us to content to do as we
wish.
- Original Message -
From: Forrest W. Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
I
This whole thing makes me wounder...
What about when it is spelled out to the user before they sign up?
I inform all users that we reserve the right to limit traffic,
especially peer to peer traffic. I also tell them that we do not
support or recommend VoIP services. They are welcome to try
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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:37 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
It looks like the FCC now has the votes necessary to sanction Comcast for
its P2P throttling.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News - Net Neutrality
This whole thing makes me wounder...
What about when it is spelled out to the user before they sign up
penetration. I know I have been waiting for it since 2002. Let the NEW games
begin!
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scottie Arnett
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:04 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] More FCC News
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