Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

3:53 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers Torrent traffic is less than 1% of our network traffic. It's never been a big deal for us like it probably once was. On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Dan Thompson mailto:d...@peakenetbroadband.com

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reless@wispa.org>> Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 at 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers Fair how? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [mage removed by s

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8:35 PM From: "Darin Steffl" To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers Dan,   You have to understand if you're selling a residential internet package, it is NOT dedicated. There has to be some oversubscription allowed for t

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our marketing and service plans.    As as they say, live by the sword, die by the sword.    Jared   Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 at 8:07 PM From: "Vance Shipley" To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers On Dec 15, 2017

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Dan, You have to understand if you're selling a residential internet package, it is NOT dedicated. There has to be some oversubscription allowed for the ISP to make a profit. If every sub we had used their plan 24/7 and expected the speed to always be there and not dip down, we wouldn't make money

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

Lucky you!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 12/15/17 09:40, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Do you not have a DMCA contact? I get these things daily and I have a > > pretty small

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

On 12/15/17 09:40, Josh Luthman wrote: > Do you not have a DMCA contact?  I get these things daily and I have a > pretty small customer count with a geographic that I would suspect is > minimally using Bittorrent. > Not daily, no. Maybe once or twice a month for me. ~Seth

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

On Dec 15, 2017 23:29, "Dan Thompson" wrote: How is using what you pay for abuse? In both instances described, the customer is using a large chunk of their bandwidth, but not using more than the plan alots. Fallacy. Imagine your local "all you can eat" buffet charges $10 for lunch which you r

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ge this with our Procera now so we don’t hear >> from customers as much.>> __ __ >> Kris McElroy >> __ __ >> __ __ >> __ __ >> *From: * on behalf of Mike Hammett >> > il.net> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List *Date: >> *Fr

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  Kris McElroy       From: on behalf of Mike Hammett Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 at 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers   Fair how? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest In

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game. Luckily, we can manage this with our Procera now so we don’t hear > from customers as much. > > > > Kris McElroy > > > > > > > > *From: * on behalf of Mike Hammett < > wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > *Reply-To: *WISPA General List > *Date: *

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Do you not have a DMCA contact? I get these things daily and I have a pretty small customer count with a geographic that I would suspect is minimally using Bittorrent. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:38 PM

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

On 12/13/17 9:04 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > I want to be able to throttle torrent users. Beyond that, I don't think it > will affect us much in areas of high-competition. I don't really see torrents as a major thing anymore, not like what it used to be anyway. __

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game. Luckily, we can manage this with our Procera now so we don’t hear from customers as much. Kris McElroy From: on behalf of Mike Hammett Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Friday, December 15, 2017 at 9:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandw

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Fair how? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Vance Shipley" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:43:31 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net ne

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> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Rory Conaway" >> *To: *"WIS

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7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Rory Conaway" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:04:43 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers > > I want to be abl

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.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------- > *From: *"Rory Conaway" > *To: *"WISPA General List" > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:04:43 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers >

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

Why? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:04:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality &

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

o:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Seth Mattinen > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers > > On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > > What are the current thoughts on the

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

ginal Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > What are

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57 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality being > over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how the cable and > DSL c

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality being > over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how the cable and > DSL companies may react but as a small WISP, I've been thinking this > will have little impact on us and ou

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er.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Chadwick Wachs" > *To: *wirele

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nt: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:44:34 PM Subject: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality being over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how the cable and DSL companies may react but as a small WISP, I've been

[WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality being over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how the cable and DSL companies may react but as a small WISP, I've been thinking this will have little impact on us and our customers (since we don't intend on changing our pol

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

etc. etc. etc. Pay for what you use, not what your neighbor uses. marlon From: Joe Fiero Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end I don’t comment all that often here, but very much pay attention to

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

Absolutely - I didn't mean to rekindle it here.  I'm just surprised when I see that kind of viewpoint, and I'm I'm trying to understand it a little better, hopefully with a lot less saber rattling than in that thread.  I currently agree with most of the posters in the NAN

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And that was an extremely painful thread on NANOG, BTW On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Mike Lyon wrote: > Not this WISP... > > -Mike > > On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Tim Densmore > wrote: > >> On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote: >> >> Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business mod

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Not this WISP... -Mike On Thursday, July 31, 2014, Tim Densmore wrote: > On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote: > > Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business model where they have > no cost to deliver a product to their users. They are using the > infrastructure built and paid for

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

I don't, no. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Densmore" To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 9:31:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end O

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On 07/31/2014 11:15 AM, Joe Fiero wrote: Netflix, Hulu, and the like have created a business model where they have no cost to deliver a product to their users.  They are using the infrastructure built and paid for by others, then stirring up the ignor

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

order, often weeks if not days, by savvy users that > realize they can pull another stream and waste no time setting it up. > > > > The simple answer is, let the market decide. If you want Netflix, each > stream will cost you a monthly fee. Likewise for other streaming > services

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

ot; Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:45:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end Do you get the connection to that facility for free? This is just like every time the bandwidth cost discussion comes up. The prices that people post that they’re paying in carrier hote

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31, 2014 12:40:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end I don’t believe that to be most everyone’s gripe. Internet and transport are cheap in comparison to backhaul and the labor required to implement. We have around 250 links, if you take Netflix out of the equation,

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

fees. Just saying…… From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end You don't need NetFlix to pay you for a fast

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end You don't need NetFlix to pay you for a fast lane... just meet them in their dozen

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

ssage - From: "Joe Fiero" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:15:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end I don’t comment all that often here, but very much pay attention to the voices of experience. On Net Neutrality, I ha

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

It has nothing to do with free speech. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:29:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutr

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

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monthly fee. Likewise for other streaming services. This way the user pays, not everyone. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The

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Oh it's great for business. Terrible for free speech. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > Or the beginning of new business opportunities for smaller companies. > > On 7/31/14

Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

Or the beginning of new business opportunities for smaller companies. On 7/31/14, 11:07 AM, Clay Stewart wrote: > Or the beginning of new law suits > > On Jul 31, 2014 10:38 AM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > > > http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/12-a-

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Or the beginning of new law suits On Jul 31, 2014 10:38 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > > http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/30/12-a-month-for-facebook-sprint-tramples-over-net-neutrality-with-new-prepaid-plan/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DroidLife+%28Droid+Life%29&utm_c

[WISPA] Net neutrality, The beginning of the end

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[WISPA] Net Neutrality Comedy

http://thecolbertreport.cc.com/videos/nnj3ic/end-of-net-neutrality Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition " Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

ld be most useful (mountains, forest). ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ From: John Scrivner Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality Gl

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

Glad to hear someone up there in DC is listening. Did you happen to mention anything about our need of access to TVWS? Scriv On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:56 PM, MDK wrote: > > Monday morning I got a phone call from a 202 number and answered it. The > name sounded vaguely familiar, but he finally

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality, in this case USF

Nice job! You said most of our talking points on this, I only wish all Congress would remember where they come from and give their WISP a call, maybe more members could do what you did and initiate the call to get the dialogue started. While USF is outside of Congress the FCC sure listens to

[WISPA] Net Neutrality

Monday morning I got a phone call from a 202 number and answered it. The name sounded vaguely familiar, but he finally identified himself as the assistant to my congressman. Ahh, now I know why I recognize the name. Been in politics around here for many years. State and federal. Thursday

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

+++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Tom DeReggi" Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:54 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality > At the end of the day it boils down to whether its justified for a WISP to > r

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

riginal Message ----- From: "Tony Iacopi" To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality Hi there, Unfortunately I would love to agree with Matt and the fact that I paid for the network so I should be able to do

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

nc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ -- From: "Josh Luthman" Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:19 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality > If a legislator o

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

--- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On Behalf Of Matt >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:43 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality >> >> > I am working with two law firms which I h

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:43 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality > > > I am working with two law firms which I hope to announce today, that w

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

> I am working with two law firms which I hope to announce today, that will be > marketing Open Internet (Net Neutrality) Disclosure Compliance Statements > templates or assistance at a relatively low cost.  They are doing this for > WISPA members.  All ISP’s must be in compliance and have statemen

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

riday, October 28, 2011 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:19, Tony Iacopi wrote: Unfortunately I would love to agree with Matt and the fact that I paid for the network so I should be able to do what I want with it, however, the way

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

avid E. Smith Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:19, Tony Iacopi wrote: Unfortunately I would love to agree with Matt and the fact that I paid for the network so I should be able to do what I w

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 09:19, Tony Iacopi wrote: > Unfortunately I would love to agree with Matt and the fact that I paid for > the network so I should be able to do what I want with it, however, the way > it is currently written, if you provide internet service (which I believe > we > all do) y

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

Broadwick - Lists Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 5:55 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality “The fact that the DC Circuit (their motto: "We hate the FCC") got the case raises the odds even more.” LOL...have I mentioned how much I enjoy having you back o

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Fred Goldstein Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality At 10/25/2011 07:43 PM, Matt Larsen wrote: If you are a Title II regulated telco, they might apply to you. As a

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

At 10/25/2011 07:43 PM, Matt Larsen wrote: If you are a Title II regulated telco, they might apply to you. As an operator of a privately funded broadband network, Net Neutrality does not apply to you. You paid for it, you can do what you want with it. Legally, per the letter of the Communi

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

If you are a Title II regulated telco, they might apply to you. As an operator of a privately funded broadband network, Net Neutrality does not apply to you. You paid for it, you can do what you want with it. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 10/25/2011 4:46 PM, Tony Iacopi wrote: Hi there,

[WISPA] Net Neutrality

Hi there, Just got off the phone with my FCC attorney and the Net Neutrality rules are back on and we are to comply by Nov. 20th. Has anyone done anything regarding this, we are working on it but would like to know what others are doing. Let me know. Thanks Tony Iacopi 831-902-0700 t.

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...

d or statement? Is there one? > > > > ++ > Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy > 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 > ++ > > *From:* Rick Harnish > *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:49 AM > *To:* 'WISPA General List&#x

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...

0 509-386-4589 ++ From: Rick Harnish Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 7:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... Mark, Why don't you join WISPA and be part of the process instead of taking pot shots from the "hinterlands".

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...

March 05, 2011 1:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership- questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=component <http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/techno

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...

Broadband - Original Message - From: MDK To: WISPA General List Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:08 AM Subject: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership-questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...

Broadband - Original Message - From: MDK To: WISPA General List Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:08 AM Subject: [WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles... http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership-questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=compon

[WISPA] net neutrality... Two articles...

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/147121-house-leadership-questions-why-industry-isnt-fighting-in-net-regs?tmpl=component&print=1&page= Excerpt: House GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) convened a meeting of top communications companies on Wednesday morning, where he questioned wh

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

al, caught in the crossfire, having been left for dead years ago. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ From: <mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>Fred Goldstein Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:43 PM To: <mailto

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

l List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski At 9/2/2010 05:59 PM, you wrote: How, uhh.. .do they propose to ban doing this? By permitting "specialized services" (anything other than a bog-neutral wide open Internet service) only under limited conditio

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

At 9/2/2010 05:59 PM, you wrote: How, uhh.. .do they propose to ban doing this? By permitting "specialized services" (anything other than a bog-neutral wide open Internet service) only under limited conditions. Among them are these proposals, from the new Further Inquiry: (E) Limit Special

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

How, uhh.. .do they propose to ban doing this? > > Note how the proposed rules essentially outlaw the competitive > provision of non-POTS telecommunications service (anything but plain > Internet access). They suggest that a large ISP is allowed to offer > some small percentage of their net

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

10 1:21 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski > At 9/2/2010 03:20 PM, MDK wrote: >>Yesterday, the Chairman released a statement on net neutrality, which >>basically said "We need more public comment". > >

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

At 9/2/2010 03:20 PM, MDK wrote: >Yesterday, the Chairman released a statement on net neutrality, which >basically said "We need more public comment". Yes, we'll need to send in more posts to keep them from producing rules that put WISPs and other competitive ISPs out of business. It looks as i

[WISPA] Net Neutrality statement from Genakowski

Yesterday, the Chairman released a statement on net neutrality, which basically said "We need more public comment". This an excerpt from his published statement: "Recent events have highlighted questions on how open Internet rules should apply to 'specialized' services and to mobile broadband -

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

Our TOS states if they want to run servers then they need a dedicated line. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

Message - From: Jack Unger To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet... Fred, Many WISPs throttle throughput according to the terms of the contracted service that each customer purchases. For ex

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

. marlon - Original Message - From: Jack Unger To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet... Why would customers installing file servers cause you a problem if you limited their throughput to the

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet... Comments inline. Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/3/2010 09:03 PM, Jack U

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

government needs to stop thinking they are going to be everyone's savior. Brian From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 12:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be h

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

Competition is what keeps your upstream from doing that. Even if you have T-1 service in BFE, you can get a T-1 from any major IXC anywhere T-1s are available. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/3/2010 11:09 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Comments inline.

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

Comments inline. Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/3/2010 09:03 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Fred, Many WISPs throttle throughput according to the terms of the contracted service that each customer purchases. For example, if a WISP sells 1 Mb down and 512k up then they limit throughput to

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

At 8/3/2010 09:03 PM, Jack Unger wrote: >Fred, > >Many WISPs throttle throughput according to the terms of the >contracted service that each customer purchases. For example, if a >WISP sells 1 Mb down and 512k up then they limit throughput to >somewhere near those levels. Under those conditions,

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

Fred, Many WISPs throttle throughput according to the terms of the contracted service that each customer purchases. For example, if a WISP sells 1 Mb down and 512k up then they limit throughput to somewhere near those levels. Under those conditions, a customer can have a file or web server an

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

At 8/3/2010 06:24 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Why would customers installing file servers cause you a problem if you limited their throughput to the Terms and Conditions of their contract where you would specify the amount of bandwidth that you were supplying them and limiting them to? You could

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

nger Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet... Why would customers installing file servers cause you a problem if you limited their throughput to the Terms and Conditions of their contract where you would specify the

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

Why would customers installing file servers cause you a problem if you limited their throughput to the Terms and Conditions of their contract where you would specify the amount of bandwidth that you were supplying them and limiting them to? Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/3/2010 04:58 PM, Mike Ha

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

At 8/3/2010 04:58 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: That's what I don't understand... some people are so for Net Neutrality, but every unhappy incumbent customer is a potential sale. I've long opposed "network neutrality" rules on grounds that it could put most WISPs out of business. You'd be forced t

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

That whole slippery slope thing. Its easy to forget that once they (They are "them." They are "they." That are the Men in Black) it will not be simple or easy. Once telcos really start losing to WISPs you will see them fight all the harder. There are some good telcos out there (IIRC some one on the

Re: [WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

That's what I don't understand... some people are so for Net Neutrality, but every unhappy incumbent customer is a potential sale. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/3/2010 12:34 PM, MDK wrote: On the political side of the issue, the anti-Genakowsk

[WISPA] net neutrality, there may be hope yet...

On the political side of the issue, the anti-Genakowski allies are increasing in number and strength. http://biggovernment.com/smotley/2010/08/03/another-week-of-growing-opposition-to-fccs-internet-grab/#more-152353 I, for one, think that if Comcast Charter or Qwest, or anyone, started depr

[WISPA] Net Neutrality, RIP

http://government.zdnet.com/?p=8277&page=3&tag=col1;post-8277 Andy Trimmell - Network Administrator Precision Data Solutions, LLC atrimm...@precisionds.com 317.831.3000 http://www.pdswireless.com WISPA

Re: [WISPA] "net neutrality" article

Do not feed the troll (repeat) On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: > > http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/01/net-neutrality-plan-would-permit-blocking-bittorrent > > http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/28/1431214/FCCs-Net-Neutrality-Plan-Blocks-BitTorrent > > -- > Marco C. Coelho

[WISPA] "net neutrality" article

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/01/net-neutrality-plan-would-permit-blocking-bittorrent http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/28/1431214/FCCs-Net-Neutrality-Plan-Blocks-BitTorrent -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 -

[WISPA] Net Neutrality: The Canadians Get it Right!

http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/2714 Lets hope the FCC can make a ruling as balanced and appropriate as this one. Matt Larsen Vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

tember 25, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality > ? > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > wrote: > >> Tell that to espn. >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Clint Ricker" >> To

Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality

providing over their cable, not our wireless. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality There's a difference between

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