o look at the lightning arrestors. Not sure how
> >> they could make a difference but that's the one thing that's unknown to
> >> me.
> >> marlon
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Travis Johnson
> >> To: WIS
s, OH 44820
>>> 419-562-6405
>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of David Hulsebus
>>> Sent: Thursda
AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
I have been using this meter,
http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=PM%2D2458&eq=&Tp=
It checks forward power, reflected power, and will give you the SWR
reading.
Its been a lifesaver.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAV
Jun 2009 09:23:20
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>
>
> Whats your life expectancy on those polyphasers? Their website states
> they are good for multiple strikes, but just wondering about the
> durability. etc,.
>
> -Israel
>
> Da
We use them commercially. I think we have replace. 2 of them over the past 18+
years
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From: Israel Lopez-LISTS
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:23:20
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Whats your life
a.org] On
>> Behalf Of David Hulsebus
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>>
>> I've had the quarter waves that take multiple strikes go partially out
>> in the past. Gas tubes have
wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of David Hulsebus
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM
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>
> I've had the quarter waves that take multiple strikes go partially out
> in the past. Gas tubes have just
urt Fankhauser
> WAVELINC
> P.O. Box 126
> Bucyrus, OH 44820
> 419-562-6405
> www.wavelinc.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of David Hulsebus
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM
>
riginal Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of David Hulsebus
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
I've had the quarter waves that take multiple strikes go partially out
in the
t's unknown to me.
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Travis Johnson
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have t
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Kurt,
We are testing some of this at a different tower, where one of the AP'
27;m told that you should
> change the tube in at least some of them. The gas eventually fails and
> needs to be replaced.
>
> laters,
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "RickG"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Thursday, Ju
gt;>>>> testing doesn't show any impact though.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4). Separate the radios by 10 feet vertically, I will do this
>>>>> anyway,
>>>>> although turning o
some of them. The gas eventually fails and
needs to be replaced.
laters,
marlon
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From: "RickG"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
On that note. Can lightning protectors go
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Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:22 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
At the base, I see n
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>> From: Travis Johnson
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have to agree with Gino here... even at 7 degree downtilt, you are
&g
the other sectors should have taken this out of
>>>> the
>>>> equation, unless the other two sectors are reflecting on each other
>>>> badly, because of their close proximity.
>>>>
>>>> 5). Change out a radio, and see if somehow all
lightning arrestors. Not sure how
> they could make a difference but that's the one thing that's unknown to me.
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Travis Johnson
> To: WISPA General List
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [WIS
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:05 PM
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Hi,
I have to agree with Gino here... even at 7 degree downtilt, you are cutting
it very close. You may want to try 5 degrees on just one sector and see if that
helps.
Travis
Mic
s.) and see what happens.
Have you, just for kicks, tried from closer or further than your customer
base?
marlon
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From: "Michael Baird"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>
ange out a radio, and see if somehow all of my radio's got
>>> fried.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Baird
>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> If you can redu
on each other
>> badly, because of their close proximity.
>>
>> 5). Change out a radio, and see if somehow all of my radio's got
>> fried.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> If you can reduce th
ower on 2 of the sectors and see if the
>> third has RSL improvement
>>
>> Bob
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Blair Davis
>>
>> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:44:52
>> To: WI
on 2 of the sectors and see if the third has
> RSL improvement
>
> Bob
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Blair Davis
>
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:
Michael
If you can reduce the TX power on 2 of the sectors and see if the third has RSL
improvement
Bob
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From: Blair Davis
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:44:52
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
then you cant change channels
without changing the filters around.
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:
arini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WI
ntiltCalc.as
>>>
>>> With your input, I get main lobe 0.2 miles / -3db @ 7
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -Original
l Baird
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Gino,
145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was
wrong, I would think it would impact the receive on my CPE's, much more
then on the tower AP's, maybe
nput, I get main lobe 0.2 miles / -3db @ 7
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-b
eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Gino,
145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was
wrong, I would think it would impact
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 2:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Gino, wisp-router.com, would the downtilt affect the AP RSSI level?
Antenna Height
ft
Downtilt Angle
nday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>
> Gino,
>
> 145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was
> wrong, I would think it would impact the receive on my CPE's, much more
> then on the
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Gino,
145', 15 degree VB, 7.7/7.8 puts my -3d at ~5 miles. If my downtilt was
wrong, I would think it
; The beamwidth of the maxrad sector?
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> g...@aeronetpr.com
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: wirele
: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized,
adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile
radius.
Radios, are Ubiquity 400mw radio's, I've turned down to 23/200mw.
CPE&
rg [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Michael Baird
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:29 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
>
> My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized,
> adjusted to 120/13db, at
...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Baird
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized,
adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile
radius.
R
panel at 5 miles you should see an rssi of, -83 or so. Legally you
> could have 6 more dB at the AP side giving you around -77 at the cpe 5 miles
> out.
>
> Hope this helps!
> marlon
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:0
r so. Legally you
could have 6 more dB at the AP side giving you around -77 at the cpe 5 miles
out.
Hope this helps!
marlon
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From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
> We've just installed a 3 sector 2.4 setu
I've got one tower with a single client so I opted for a Bullet on it
as an experiment. It works surprisingly well although I prefer all the
bells & whistles on a RB or WRAP. At any rate, I bet your right and
its the lightning protector. I've had some strange issues with
lightning protectors in the
Well I'm using BulletHP's, but I have them on other towers, and they
work fine. I have the Ubiquity 3.4 firmware on them, it's not the
radio's, not the antenna's, it's definitely something with this tower
configuration. The only thing we did differently is use RFlinx Lightning
arrestors inline
What sort of ubiquiti APs? You'll have serious loss on anything
but a bullet, and I wouldn't put one of them 145' up a tower.
Also see that the firmware is up to date. They've had some issues
misreporting signal in various versions.
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 04:09:40PM -0400, m...@tc3net.com wro
If there are adjacent channel rejection issues you can see degradation of the
RSL level.
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From: m...@tc3net.com
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:24:09
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Yea, can't try
st"
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:13:10 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
Michael,
A quick test would be to shut off the other two sectors and see if your
AP RSL goes up. If it does, you may have answered your question
regarding channel separatio
Michael,
A quick test would be to shut off the other two sectors and see if your
AP RSL goes up. If it does, you may have answered your question
regarding channel separation.
-B-
m...@tc3net.com wrote:
> We've just installed a 3 sector 2.4 setup, at 145' with maxrad 120's. I'm
> noticing the
We've just installed a 3 sector 2.4 setup, at 145' with maxrad 120's. I'm
noticing the receive sensitivity on the AP's are about 15-20 db's different
then what I see on the CPE's, tried a Tranzeo/Ubiquity radio. I'm using
Ubiquity AP's, and they work fine on another 3 sector setup I have, howeve
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