2009 6:22 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Tower accident
> Our tower crews are allowed to pick and choose what they like for
> Harness and Lanyards as long as it's approved by our safety manager.
> They all choose the exofit harness by DBSALA with the seat. I prefer
> this one as well. The new
Our tower crews are allowed to pick and choose what they like for
Harness and Lanyards as long as it's approved by our safety manager.
They all choose the exofit harness by DBSALA with the seat. I prefer
this one as well. The new ones have a spring in the that makes the rear
ring stick up, very
http://en.petzl.com/petzl/ProFamille?Famille=26
I use the same helmet for Mountaineering, Tower Work and River rescue
for the fire department.
Lightweight durable and the built in head-lamp holders are worth their
weight in gold.
Make sure you get one that is just small enough to fit on your h
We just ordered two petzl helmets from Midwest unlimited
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Matt wrote:
> > The last harness we bought had a bar across the seat. My guys like that
> > better because it lets them rest more on their butts than their legs
> > while working on the side of the tower.
>
> The last harness we bought had a bar across the seat. My guys like that
> better because it lets them rest more on their butts than their legs
> while working on the side of the tower.
> I think it's Elk River Eagle Tower LX Harness. Not sure exactly though,
> it's listed at 227.95 and I thought
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Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.
Jim
Blair Davis wrote:
I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A
good set will
ompeting prices.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jim Patient
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
> To: WISPA General List
&g
Definately Midwest Unlimited. Buy from a company in the tower business.
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From: "Steve Barnes"
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:43:37
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
That's what I like about
2009 11:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
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>
> That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
> point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what are some
> good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear. I know Te
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http://www.discountsafetygear.com/
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airCloud Communications
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Networks
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Something about that name doesn't sound right :-)
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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http://www.discountsafetygear.com/
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Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Thu
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
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That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point. Safety over the check book. So with that said wha
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
That's what I like about this list, most every shoots straight to the
point. Safety over the check book. So with that said what are some
good sources, (Websites) for climbing gear. I know Tessco, trying to
find some competing prices.
Steve B
ginal Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on
s
dnesday, January 07, 2009 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
> New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never
> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to let
> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunti
Our guys like Exofit the best so that's what we buy. Don't go cheap on
safety gear, you can't afford it.
Jim
Blair Davis wrote:
> I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A
> good set will last many years, be comfortable and safe. Spend the
> money, you won't regret i
I use mine 3-4 times a month. Spent $500 lanyards and harness. A good
set will last many years, be comfortable and safe. Spend the money,
you won't regret it.
Steve Barnes wrote:
New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never
climb more than 30 feet on well secured
Bad idea. Did we not just have this discussion on always being as safe as
possible?
We used Comtrain's suggested harness and got it at Tessco. Best decision we
ever made.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand U
We don't use our harnesses that much.
Steve Barnes wrote:
> New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never
> climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to let
> go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting
> harness". I use it
New Question on this thread. I need a inexpensive harness. I never
climb more than 30 feet on well secured TV towers but Would like to let
go at the top and getting tired of my "fall out of tree while hunting
harness". I use it less than 3 times a month so I hate to spend $400
for a rig. Any su
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 1:09 PM
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> Spending less than $1k on rescue
> training per employee is pennies compared to the life of o
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> The only downside to relying on the EMS/Fire Dept. is that most of them
> are not trained in high altitude rescue. ComTrain actually recommends a
> 3 minute response time from EMS
;
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:05 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
>
>
> What do you guys do on elevator/gra
Most Fire Departments ARE very unqualified to
do tower rescues. Even those that offer high angle rescue
are still not normally trained on towers.
We are working with a couple of state wireless associations
on trying to help that - but it is a very slow process.
At this point however, a couple of
tains it is
more likely).
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
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Behalf Of Eric Albert
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:33 PM
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Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
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From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
> My rule has always been 1 man on the ground or at least nearby with a two
> way radio. Anything big
or feet. I pulled
> him off the tower and told his foreman to never send him on one of my
> jobs ever again. At least he left the site under his own power that day.
>
>
> Eric Albert
> Application Engineer
> Alvarion Inc.
> |
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@
al Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:32 PM
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Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I have a lot more repeaters than
that and we usually only r
gt; |
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
> Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I
st
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Climbing a couple legs a day? WOW! I have a lot more repeaters than
that and we usually only revisit to upgrade or repair. We're mostly
MikroTik and went and upgraded one of our longest uptime AP's last week.
130+ plus of uptime. What gear are you us
ar a harness.
>>
>>
>>
>> I myself don't do 100% tie off going up a cage, but I do when I get to
>> the top.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless
; about 4 years I couldn't imagine using some of the stuff people used to
>> use.
>>
>> -Cameron
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>> Sent: Tuesday, Jan
revisited
>> so often?
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:28 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:28 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
>
>
> Well, lately we have backed off. But for the last 8 months, it seemed
> like a couple legs a day (30 sites). So much for the cheap route I
> went
>
> B
d
so often?
Chuck
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:28 PM
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Well, lately we have backed off. But for the last 8 months, it seemed
lik
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WI
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
There is a railing on all the ones
st
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already one on
the leg that has no cage. Then we could clip on a go, with either a
belt or a light harness (unlike my b
boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:14 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
> I believe a cage is an acceptable OSHA fall restraint. This was
> reviewed during my recent ComTrain class in Orlando. The onl
ad so much crap on them it was
the only way to do it (unless you had two belts... perish the thought).
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eless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:20 PM
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I have seriously thought about putting a cable going up the center of
the ladders on all the elevator legs we're on. There is already
alf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:05 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
>
>
> What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have cages around them.
> Usually it's like a 100ft ladder.
>
> Brian
>
&g
g
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:14 PM
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I believe a cage is an acceptable OSHA fall restraint. This was
reviewed during my recent ComTrain class in Orlando. The only issue is
if you get on the platform, you have no fall arrest and thus you
I do when I get to
the top.
Chuck
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:05 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have
ought).
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From: "3-dB Networks"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
And 15 years ago most people climbed towers freestyle... all this safety
gear is still relatively new i
Exactly.
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:20 PM
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I think what he means
y, January 06, 2009 8:52 AM
To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When climbing how many think "let's tie off in two places because this
first piece of angle iron is going to fall off"?
On 1/6/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote:
: "Cameron Kilton"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
> When I climb, I am clipped into three different areas while working
> away.
>
> Freestyle, phew, glad I missed that part of it.
2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
> Very sad indeed.
> I don't think they should be giving awards away for incidents when
> people die at work. Even if the person made a mistake like that.
> It was not funny to me at all.
>
> But some have a weird sense o
a.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
I used to free climb towers. Some of them had so much crap on them it
was
the only way to do it (unless you had two belts... peris
wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:50 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
> Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks
> and ha
nd
>> actually, if
>> the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "George Rogato"
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
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t: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Chuck McCown wrote:
> Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks
> and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt
around
> the pole. Most of the time the drop was between 20 and 30 feet. Enough
to
>
> the preferred way of climbing. Much quicker and easier, and actually, if
> the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
> - Original Message -
> From: "George Rogato"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
> Sub
down here!
Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today.
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From: "Chuck McCown"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
> You just put your gloved hands on each side of the pole.
.. because you never know what might happen.
> >>
> >> Daniel White
> >> 3-dB Networks
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> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> B
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than our hooks
and hands. Once you got up, then you would throw the one single belt around
the pole. Most of the time the drop was betwe
asier, and actually, if
the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
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From: "George Rogato"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
> When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie
right.
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From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
> What is this wood? Is it like primitive steel? =)
>
> Did the pole have hooks like a gen pole? Wha
In any event, it was
> the preferred way of climbing. Much quicker and easier, and actually, if
> the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
> - Original Message -
> From: "George Rogato"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12
the preferred way of climbing. Much quicker and easier, and actually,
>> if
>> > the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "George Rogato"
>> > To: "WISPA General List"
>> > Sent: T
ng off for a former girlfriend). In any event, it
> was
> > the preferred way of climbing. Much quicker and easier, and actually, if
> > the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "George Rogato"
> > To: &qu
works
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
It makes sense the way you explained i
orge Rogato
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
> When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off with?
> Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to move it that you
> are then not t
Of George Rogato
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off with?
Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to move it that you
are then not tied off at all?
3-dB Networks
.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:52 AM
> To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
> When climbing how many think "let's tie off in two places because this
> first piece of angle iro
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:52 AM
To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
When climbing how many think "let's tie off in two places because this
When climbing how many think "let's tie off in two places because this
first piece of angle iron is going to fall off"?
On 1/6/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net wrote:
> Not to say thats not right. The whole point of the Darwin awards was
> that the people who died have died in the most stupide
Not to say thats not right. The whole point of the Darwin awards was
that the people who died have died in the most stupidest way, that they
did the entire human population a favor by eliminating themselves from
the gene pool. There is a movie even on it.Like the guy who
strapped a Jato R
Very sad indeed.
I don't think they should be giving awards away for incidents when
people die at work. Even if the person made a mistake like that.
It was not funny to me at all.
But some have a weird sense of humor.
Me, I see no humor in a death or falling off a tower
Blair Davis wrote:
> Tow
Oh NO, not the Darwin Awards again...
http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2007-07.html
I almost died laughing...
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Mike Hammett wrote:
A full body hazmat setup is always cheap insurance when you're
around JohnnyO!
How very true that statement is!. I have also learned from pri
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Accident
Mike Hammett wrote:
A full body hazmat setup is always cheap insurance when you're around
JohnnyO!
How very true that statement is!. I have also learned from prior
experience that upping your life insur
Mike Hammett wrote:
A full body hazmat setup is always cheap insurance when you're around
JohnnyO!
How very true that statement is!. I have also learned from prior
experience that upping your life insurance may not be a bad idea also! ;-)
-
July 10, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Accident
JohnnyO, That suit was just to keep the bugs off. :-) When you have no
place to sleep but a cot and the great wide open, the last thing I want to
be is a snack for all of the Mississippi bugs and critters. I came down
there to do Kat
tures !
CampWTF Founding Member :)
JohnnyO
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To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Tower Accident
I did read the post. But as my post said:
"I
A General List'"
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I did read the post. But as my post said:
"I could not imagine what would happen if it hit him on the head."
"Could not imagine...if" Were the key words.
Nothing can pro
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 9:55 AM
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If you read the post, the wrench hit the ladder and then bounced into
his face. Even if he had a hard hat on (which I am guessing he did), it
does not
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Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:41 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Tower Accident
uly 10, 2007 8:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Tower Accident
Hi Folks,
We had what turned out to be a minor tower accident involving one of our
tower climbers.
It appears that he had attached a wrench to the wrong carabiner on another
climbers harness. When climber #2 detach
Hi Folks,
We had what turned out to
be a minor
tower accident involving one of our tower climbers.
It appears that he had
attached a wrench to the wrong carabiner
on another climbers harness. When climber #2 detached the carabiner,
the wrench
fell without his knowledge. Climber #2 was up
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