not interoperable.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Mike,
Not trying
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Businesses cannot run on cell phones. Nor can fax machines.
Voip is cheaper than cell service. The quality is better. People
like
their old numbers and don't want to port them to cell.
Voip does not run out of batteries or fade in and out if you go
]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Marlon,
How has your Netsapiens deployment going? are you starting with the hosted
platform?
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote
: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax is a requirement and most certainly can work with VoIP. As we
found out T.38 and G711 are mutually exclusive. T.38 is meant to work
over G729 as G711 is supposed actually carry faxes successfully.
-Matt
On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Fax
]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax is a requirement and most certainly can work with VoIP. As we
found out T.38 and G711 are mutually exclusive. T.38 is meant to work
over G729 as G711 is supposed actually
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From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax is a requirement and most certainly can work with VoIP. As we
found out T.38 and G711 are mutually exclusive. T.38 is meant to work
, 2008 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax is a requirement and most certainly can work with VoIP. As we
found out T.38 and G711 are mutually exclusive. T.38 is meant to work
over G729 as G711 is supposed actually carry faxes successfully.
-Matt
On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:22 PM
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Well, it doesn't run well enough to be a service I'm willing to associate
with my company at this point. I've done G.711 and T.38 with many
softswitches and many ATAs. It's too finicky.
--
Mike Hammett
: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax machines don't run over VoIP either. They just don't, T.38 doesn't
really work.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless
:
773.326.4641
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Although I always recommend exploring options WISPA vendor members have,
first
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Well, it doesn't run well enough to be a service I'm willing to associate
with my company at this point. I've done G.711 and T.38 with many
softswitches and many ATAs. It's too finicky.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics
Of Chuck McCown - 3
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
.
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From: Jeremy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re
:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Mike,
Not trying to sound like a jerk here, but it's not the VoIP...it's your
network Properly deployed...VoIP works fine (however, network construction
standards are MUCH STRICTER than what most data-only WISP networks currently
Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Tom,
Bandwidth is generally not the issue with VoIP...it's pps and jitter
buffers
G.729
the arguable threat of causing you brain
cancer. Real telephones are more comfortable to use. Lots of reasons.
- Original Message -
From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Businesses cannot run on cell phones. Nor can fax machines.
Voip is cheaper than cell service. The quality is better. People like
their old numbers and don't want to port them to cell.
Voip does not run out of batteries or fade in and out if you go
and make the phones and FEM devices use the DECT
6.0 frequencies...
Thank You,
Brian Webster
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments
.
insert witty tagline here
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From: Joe Fiero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Agreed
Convergence, or unified communications, will be the answer. Our Internet
, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
If that is the case, why is the cellular industry making such a push for
FEM
to Cell products. Those are basically just a micro cellular transmitter
for
your home/office that then acts as a VOIP gateway back to their network
without loading
Um. Where do you get the 1k figure from?
I have seen articles mentioning a price point around 100.00.
Charles
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Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
There are farmers around here without a landline. They are 100% cellular
now. They even have spare lines for the temp guys that show up for
harvest/picking, etc.
I
, August 10, 2008 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Businesses cannot run on cell phones. Nor can fax machines.
Voip is cheaper than cell service. The quality is better. People like
their old numbers and don't want to port them to cell.
Voip does not run out of batteries or fade
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
There are farmers around here without a landline. They are 100
I'll have to look around and see if I can find it.
insert witty tagline here
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Um
Ours does. G.711 makes 'em happy.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax machines don't run over VoIP either. They just don't, T.38 doesn't
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From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Motorola Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General
List
wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Anyone care to give some pithy comments on white label
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax machines don't run over VoIP either. They just don't, T.38 doesn't
really work.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED
pored the office lines to VoX, it's been 100% hit.
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax machines don't run over
] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 9:23 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Fax machines don't run over VoIP either. They just don't, T.38 doesn't
really work.
--
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics
number
to our system and do E-911 in the same way.
- Original Message -
From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
Charles,
We tried that back in January
McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Canopy User Group [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA Board
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:23 PM
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
I want to know
: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
I chose a local company for the bulk of my VoIP services. Currently I
don't
even look at the CDRs because I know my current customers aren't going to
go
over. However, as soon as I get my new office ready, I'll
We don't care about CDRs as we give an all you can eat long distance
feature. We will look at the totals month by month to see if we are
making
out OK or loosing our shirt.
If that is the case then about any billing solution can handle your needs.
Out of curiosity does Vox charge extra for
: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
We don't care about CDRs as we give an all you can eat long distance
feature. We will look at the totals month by month to see if we are
making
out OK or loosing our shirt.
If that is the case then about any billing solution can handle your needs.
Out
Whoever it is we are using charges extra for the intl calls.
- Original Message -
From: Jeremy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
We don't care about CDRs as we
On Aug 9, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
We use a hybrid approach, asterisk for many things, and a Vox like
company
(it may even be Vox, not sure as I just approve the payments, Bryan
is the
one that vetted the company). Our VoiP system is form fit and
function
Whoever it is we are using charges extra for the intl calls.
Then to some extent, you do need to checkout CDR records.
Sincerely,
Jeremy Davis
Maximum Technologies, LLC
Office 318.303.4725
WISPA Wants You!
Not sure if we are offering intl. I think we decided to sell them phone
cards if they want intl.
- Original Message -
From: Jeremy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm
, August 08, 2008 12:59 PM
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Anyone care to give some pithy comments on white label voip product
launches?
Who did you choose? How many customers do you have? How are you billing?
--
John M. McDowell
Boonlink Communications
307 Grand Ave NW
Fort Payne, AL
Anyone care to give some pithy comments on white label voip product
launches?
Who did you choose? How many customers do you have? How are you billing?
--
John M. McDowell
Boonlink Communications
307 Grand Ave NW
Fort Payne, AL 35967
256.844.9932
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.boonlink.com
This
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Subject: [WISPA] VoIP deployments?
Anyone care to give some pithy comments on white label voip product
launches?
Who did you choose? How many customers do you have? How are you billing?
--
John M. McDowell
Boonlink Communications
307 Grand Ave NW
Fort Payne, AL 35967
256.844.9932
[EMAIL
I want to know who or what you've chosen as your voip provider, and what you
are using for billing?
The good, the bad and in between.
--
John M. McDowell
Boonlink Communications
307 Grand Ave NW
Fort Payne, AL 35967
256.844.9932
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.boonlink.com
get a response.
Charles Wyble
--Original Message--
From: John McDowell
Sender:
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To: WISPA General List
To: Motorola Canopy User Group
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA Board Members List
ReplyTo: WISPA General List
Sent: Aug 8, 2008 3:23 PM
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP
a response.
Charles Wyble
--Original Message--
From: John McDowell
Sender:
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List
To: Motorola Canopy User Group
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA Board Members List
ReplyTo: WISPA General List
Sent: Aug 8, 2008 3:23 PM
Subject: [WISPA] VoIP
Asking for real-world feedback from operators who have deployed voip on
their networks, and their experiences with the vendors they chose, as
well
as their billing platforms.
We trunk with vitelity.net. The prices are not too bad unless you are in an
expensive rate center. If not it is
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Jeremy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Asking for real-world feedback from operators who have deployed voip on
their networks, and their experiences with the vendors they chose, as
well
as their billing platforms.
We trunk with vitelity.net. The prices
Think I messed up that reply...
I think that's great. We spoke with Freeside today about VoIP billing. I
think there is a board member named Matt that uses Vox with Freeside. Maybe
he will see this and chime in?
Are you using the Freeside Asterisk server?
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Jeremy
Are you using the Freeside Asterisk server?
Nope. We are currently using Trixbox.
Sincerely,
Jeremy Davis
Maximum Technologies, LLC
Office 318.303.4725
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
Think I messed up that reply...
I think that's great. We spoke with Freeside today about VoIP billing. I
think there is a board member named Matt that uses Vox with Freeside. Maybe
he will see
?
-Charles
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:49 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP DeploymentsI'm serious
Think I messed up that reply...
I
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