[WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hi All, I have to upgrade a couple of backhaul systems and I'm wondering what others are using. I've got Airaya gear in place. I've LOVED it. That's been some of the most reliable gear that I've ever used. I also like my Mikrotik hardware so far. We've put quite a bit of it in over the las

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Randy Cosby
t; > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:18 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > Do you have to go through s

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Dennis Burgess
WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Can you point us to your fcc certified 5.4 systems? Randy Dennis Burgess wrote: > A MT distributor has to go though the entire process to build and sell a > FCC certified System,.. > > -

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread eje
With current implementation MT can not be DFS/TPC certified since it does meet the FCC requirements. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Randy Cosby Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:18:03 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Do you have

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread ralph
Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:19 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] backhaul choices Hi All, I have to upgrade a couple of backhaul systems and I'm

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Dennis Burgess
http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backh

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Dennis Burgess
http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ba

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Randy Cosby
ginal Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of ralph > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:57 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > Marlon- > You asked, and you probably already kno

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Cameron Kilton
Does this mean we can use 5.4Ghz with MT? -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices A MT distributor

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Randy Cosby
uot; > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:14 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > Anyone you know of worki

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Dennis Burgess
14, 2009 11:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Do you have to go through separate certification for the 5.4 DFS / TPC, or just based on the existing certification of the card? Randy Dennis Burgess wrote: > We have do

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread 3-dB Networks
l List >Subject: [WISPA] backhaul choices > >Hi All, > >I have to upgrade a couple of backhaul systems and I'm wondering what >others >are using. > >I've got Airaya gear in place. I've LOVED it. That's been some of the >most >reliable gear that I&

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread 3-dB Networks
rks >Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:08 AM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > >I like the Radwin 2000 links (especially because of their price) for >unlicensed... although Orthogon still has a warm spot in my heart >(although >they ar

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Randy Cosby
-Mobile > > -Original Message- > From: Randy Cosby > > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:18:03 > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > > Do you have to go through separate certification for the 5.4 DFS / TPC, > or just based on the

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread lakeland
I will second the Radwin. Its a good chooce for the price Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "3-dB Networks" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:07:51 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices I like the Radwin 2000 links

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: > I will second the Radwin. Its a good chooce for the price > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: "3-dB Networks" > > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:07:51 > To: 'WISPA General List' >

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Josh Luthman
BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: "3-dB Networks" > > > > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:07:51 > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > > > > > I like the Radwin 2000 links

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Dennis Burgess
Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 11:38 AM To: e...@wisp-router.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices That's what I thought. Anyone know anything different? Jeffscosoho's site is lacking in detail. e...@wisp-router.com wrote: > With current impl

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Tom DeReggi
sage - From: "Dennis Burgess" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > There is DFS2 information in there. You would need to verify that the N > card is certified in the

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
, September 14, 2009 8:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices To be fair, in backhaul list We should include. Trango Tlink45 - 45mbps $2000 Bridgewave LTE60 - 60Ghz 100mb FDX - $8000 street (not sure MSR) As well... From my understanding SnapLink is priced per

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
DeReggi Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices To be fair, in backhaul list We should include. Trango Tlink45 - 45mbps $2000 Bridgewave LTE60 - 60Ghz 100mb FDX - $8000 street (not sure MSR) As well... From my understanding

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread ralph
Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Sub

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
a.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Pretty broad statement: "MT is FCC Certified :)" Yes, I believe the wireless cards themselves might be- but even if they

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Travis Johnson
t; Thanks > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:00 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > MT is FCC Certified :)

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
, September 14, 2009 9:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices As a MT Distributor, MT contacts us from time to time to have their systems FCC tested with various different antennas. I for one know that we have shipped ARC Wireless 2.4 19dB and ARC 2.4 15dB and ARC 5GHz 23dB

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-14 Thread eje
rity or certify a 19dB panel and substitute for a 19dB grid dish. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: "ralph" Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:00:20 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Pretty broad statement: "

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:00 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Pretty broad statement: "MT is FCC Certified :)" Yes, I believe the wireless cards themselves might be- but even if they are, that does not an FCC certifi

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-15 Thread Chuck Hogg
Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices That's the only way you can get it. It must be built by a MT distributor, along with the FCC stickers put on it etc and sold as a completed FCC Certified System. Can'

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-15 Thread os10rules
rgess > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:00 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > MT is FCC Certified :) > > --- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > WIS

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-15 Thread Jerry Richardson
l.com Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Excuse my ignorance but since the card is the only thing that transmits why does the board and especially why does the enclosure need to be certified? If one puts a two way radio in

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-15 Thread Dennis Burgess
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices That's been the ongoing argument. I use the analogy of a PCMCIA or USB card. that's the

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-15 Thread Mike Hammett
; From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >> Behalf Of Dennis Burgess >> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:00 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >> >> MT is FCC Certified :) >&

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-15 Thread Jerry Richardson
a.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices The way I understand it, the routerboard don't matter, the antenna, and radio matters, as its certified as a system, with xx ga

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Brian Webster
: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices MT is FCC Certified :) --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendo

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Gino Villarini
Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:53 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >> >> Excuse my ignorance but since the card is the only thing that >> transmits why does the board and especially w

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Brian Webster To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices I think the point about certification was specifically asked regarding the 5.4 version and having been approve

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Jerry Richardson
, September 16, 2009 5:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices I think the point about certification was specifically asked regarding the 5.4 version and having been approved for DFS. Thank You, Brian Webster Jerry Richardson wrote: That's been the ongoing argument.

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Randy Cosby
terboard) just runs it. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com >> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:53 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread ralph
PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices The way I understand it, the routerboard don't matter, the antenna, and radio matters, as its certified as a system, with xx gain of this type of antenna. You also have to have the FCC information, etc, on the outside that MT o

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Hammett
o: "'WISPA General List'" Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > Don't forget that routerboard is a computer. It does more than enable the > wireless card. > It needs to have a Part 15 computing device certification as well, just > like > your PC. > > So

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Randy Cosby
ads > does, however. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "ralph" > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:22 PM > To: "&#

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Eje Gustafsson
The new RB411R do have a onboard wireless interface. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices An

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
;WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices The new RB411R do have a onboard wireless interface. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:27 PM To: WI

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Eje Gustafsson
lation and fines as well). / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices What does the FCC symbol stamped on

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread ralph
does not have onboard wireless at all, only a mPCI. A crossroads > does, however. > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "ralph" >

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread ralph
. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices An RB411 does not have onboard wireless at all, only a mPCI. A

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Eje Gustafsson
09 12:22 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Don't forget that routerboard is a computer. It does more than enable the wireless card. It needs to have a Part 15 computing device certification as well, just like your PC. So regardless of the radio card

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Eje Gustafsson
WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Are you sure? When I looked at the internal photos of what they had tested, on the FCC site, it looked like there was a pigtail from an N connector plugged onto the mother board. I saw a mini-pci connector too, but it appeared to be emp

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:13 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices I don't see anything like that on the pdf you referred to. I have in my hand a 433AH in a case that came from a well known supplier of pre-cased RBs There are no markings on

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Chuck Hogg
:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices An RB411 does not have onboard wireless at all, only a mPCI. A crossroads does, however. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Randy Cosby
just which equipment was > and was not. Some folks would care I think. > Of course from what I have read and seen over the years, many of you do not > care whether or not you are operating legally. > > I'm not trying to start anything- just stating the facts as I see 'em.

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread ralph
sday, September 16, 2009 2:23 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Time to stop this thread since your just spreading FUD.. Read my other posts. All MikroTik products do have the appropriate FCC certification and/or testing done on them. / Eje -O

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread ralph
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices The FCC logo on the RB433AH is right next to the "CE" logo just to the left of the two (ram?) chips a

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
the board in a 433AH board marked as such or do they all say 433? > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:22 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: R

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread 3-dB Networks
me to do the same Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com >-Original Message- >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >Behalf Of ralph >Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:27 PM >To: 'WISPA General List' >Subj

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Chuck Hogg
4:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Sorry Eje- No need for personal criticism. If you don't like the discussion, then press delete- but don't try to silence me. What I would like to see happen is for MT to show us the testing. They should

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Gino Villarini
un...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Randy Cosby >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:22 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >> >> The FCC logo on the RB433AH is right next to the &qu

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread ralph
g] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:48 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Don't confuse the FCC aproval of the routerboard emmisions as a CPU with the actual FCC certification of a rf system with radio pig

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread ralph
. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices The test results are available on the FCC website. Regards, Chuck Hogg

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:22 -0400, ralph wrote: > As far as I can tell from the FCC info, only 2 routerboards have any FCC > Part 15 Class A or B computing device approval. > They are the Crossroads and the RB411- both of which already have on board > wireless. You are half correct. The Crossroa

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
client setup. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: "Butch Evans" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:22 -0400, ralph wrote: >> As far as I can tell f

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 14:47 -0600, 3-dB Networks wrote: > I really haven't followed this thread that closely... but with this much > confusion... Mikrotik should probably explain how and why they are FCC > legal. Most manufacturers put at the end of their user manuals a detailed > explanation of

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread 3-dB Networks
st >Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > >On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 14:47 -0600, 3-dB Networks wrote: >> I really haven't followed this thread that closely... but with this >much >> confusion... Mikrotik should probably explain how and why they are FCC >> legal. Most ma

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
ew gear. Or something too cheap > like an 802.11a ap and client setup. > > thanks, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Butch Evans" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:53 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhau

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Chuck Bartosch
I don't want any unproven brand new gear. Or something > too cheap > like an 802.11a ap and client setup. > > thanks, > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: "Butch Evans" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, September

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Chuck Bartosch
at people are >> using and >> liking. I don't want any unproven brand new gear. Or something >> too cheap >> like an 802.11a ap and client setup. >> >> thanks, >> marlon >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Butch

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Chuck Hogg
ogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] backha

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Scott Carullo
ptember 16, 2009 6:57 PM > To: "WISPA General List" > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > Uh, guys, this is interesting. But it doesn't answer the original question! > > I don't have a need for a 100meg full duplex backhaul solution. 20 megs >

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Josh Luthman
gt; an external trango Atlas link coming down in about a week I can part with > ;) > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > -------- Original Message >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:57 PM >> To

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Bret Clark
Original Message From: "Marlon K. Schafer" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:57 PM To: "WISPA General List" Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Uh, guys, this is interesting. But it doesn't answer the original

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Jerry Richardson
WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Assuming you can get 40mhz of 5ghz spectrum and not need it anymore, MT is great and it's cheap. Finding that 40mhz is your major concern. I am running two backhauls, each with two pairs of radios (that's 40mhz of spectrum) and they

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread jp
t; From: "Butch Evans" > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:53 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > > > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:22 -0400, ralph wrote: > >> As far as I can tell from the FCC info, only 2 routerboa

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
Believe this is in the documentation MT provides. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices On Wed, 2009-09-16

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
lon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 5:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Uh, guys, this is interesting. But it doesn't answer the original question! I don't have a need for a 100meg full duplex backhaul solution. 20 megs both ways will d

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices As I linked to previously, there is a search feature on the FCC site. It lists 20+ certifications for RouterBoard product, as I

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-16 Thread Dennis Burgess
-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:39 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices Assuming you can get 40mhz of 5ghz spectrum and not need it anymore, MT is great and it's cheap. Finding that 40m

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman
> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > Assuming you can get 40mhz of 5ghz spectrum and not need it anymore, > MT is great and it's cheap. Finding that 40mhz is your major concern. > > I am running two backhauls, each with

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices So the three lock ups on my links while using dual nstreme were just a

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman
g > Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:12 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
ehalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices I am suggesting don't use dual nstreme as it causes lock ups. Use OSPF to create a pseudo FDX bridge between two links. Personally done with 1 RB and 2 radios on each

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman
although I never tried it for myself. > > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:26 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
ist Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices >It tends to fall on its face at times although I never tried it for myself. What is "it"? Referring to dual nstreme? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated t

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:03 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > > >It tends to fall on its face at times a

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:23 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > Have Butch set it up in a few minutes or read the documentation and get it > going yourself. Well worth it. http://blog.butchevans.com/2008/10/using-ospf-to-create-full-duplex-behaviour-for-wireless-links/ I believe it is still on my ot

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-17 Thread Robert West
Looks nice. Thanks Butch! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:23 -0400, Josh

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I can't use 3650 out here. We're in an exclusion zone. marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices > Marlon - looked into Redline an80i

Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices

2009-09-22 Thread Jerry Richardson
General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] backhaul choices I can't use 3650 out here. We're in an exclusion zone. marlon - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] backha