Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
It is reasons like this that I am a firm believer in contracts! -B- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting close and reports are it could be available in 2006 - check out this pricing - the 15Mbps for $49.95 a month seems like a really goo

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Bob Moldashel > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:15 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing > > It is reasons like this that I am a firm believer in contr

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
Don't try and beat it, because you can't, based on bandwdith. The saviour is nobody needs 15mbps when they are only using 15kbps now. Offer things that are more useful to the clients than jsut bandwdith, that has zero value since its never going to be used any way. You may want to compete on

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah but what about the new customer who is comparing FIOS to what I offer? FIOS will have tv and voip ( we do voip now but no tv ) Times are a changing and verizon is putting flyers on everything around boston, ma to promote FIOS, like pizza box's, dry cleaning slips et

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-27 Thread John Thomas
tting flyers on everything around boston, ma to promote FIOS, like pizza box's, dry cleaning slips etc Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-28 Thread Peter R.
Bob Moldashel wrote: Unfortunately...this is an uphill battle. You need to sell customers on services. DO NOT get into a pricing war with them. You WILL loose Yes..you will wind up with fewer customers. -B- It is not the number of subs, it is the number of PROFITABLE subs that coun

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-28 Thread danlist
No, we don't use WIFI, it is strictly a fixed wireless network at this point > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of John Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:37 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISP

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-28 Thread Matt Liotta
e WIFI, it is strictly a fixed wireless network at this point -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing Is your wireless network

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
& Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing FYI, when I visited the FCC, they

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-28 Thread Bob Moldashel
Peter R. wrote: Bob Moldashel wrote: Unfortunately...this is an uphill battle. You need to sell customers on services. DO NOT get into a pricing war with them. You WILL loose Yes..you will wind up with fewer customers. -B- It is not the number of subs, it is the number of PROFITA

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing

2005-12-29 Thread John Thomas
FI, it is strictly a fixed wireless network at this point -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing Is your wireless net

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-28 Thread Peter R.
If you are going to be Resi, then get a DISH or DTV distributorship and sell them Your VoIP and your Internet and the DBS service. Won't be one bill, but it can be one call. Tom DeReggi wrote: Verizon has been advertising FIOS hard in our markets to, but its been over 6 month for some, since

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
TED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play If you are going to be Resi, then get a DISH or DTV distributorship and sell them Your VoIP and your Internet and the DBS service. Won't be one bil

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-28 Thread Paul Hendry
Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play If you are going to be Resi, then get a DISH or DTV distributorship and sell them Your VoIP and your Internet and the DBS service. Won't be one bill, but it can be one call. Tom DeReggi wrote: > Verizon has been advertising FIOS har

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-28 Thread dustin jurman
ginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play One bill has a bigger impact than people think. In our residential MTUs, I've l

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-28 Thread Bob Moldashel
dustin jurman wrote: Well Tom, it sounds like you should focus on business customers or lower your residential prices so there is no savings when the cable company comes after your customers. You would have to apply your reduced rates across the board to your residential customers. Coming back t

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
"dustin jurman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:58 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play Well Tom, it sounds like you should focus on business customers or lower your residential prices so there

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-28 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play Anyone got a way to offer triple play via wireless yet? I heard of someone working on a product but no idea if anything has been released yet. -Original Message- Fr

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-29 Thread dustin jurman
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play dustin jurman wrote: >Well Tom, it sounds like you should focus on business customers or >lower your residential price

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play

2005-12-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
quot;Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play Is there a company that you can buy VoIP service from and then resell it to your customers? Kurt Fan

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - VOIP / CommPartners

2005-12-30 Thread Peter R.
We deal with a couple of VOIP Providers that know Wireless is the way to go. The ILEC needs to be cut out of ever newly development network for sustainability. On a separate note, I rep CommPartners (CP), Primus and many others. I even have a CP Reseller WISPs can work with. CP's new plan is p

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play - Consumers

2005-12-28 Thread Peter R.
One bill. Yeah, some people like it. But if the combined services are less money, you can make a case for 2 bills. How can you make it easier for them to pay the bill??? Have you seen how hard VZ makes e-bill You need to market to your own customers. Stay in front of them. Let them know w

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (mobility and roaming)

2005-12-28 Thread Haudy Kazemi
tt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "WISPA General List" >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:52 AM >Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing > > >> FYI, when I visited the FCC, they were very specific that Wi-Fi cannot >> roam. Wi-Fi users can be nomadic

VoIP (was Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play)

2005-12-30 Thread Matt Liotta
come soon, we will build ourselves. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Seriously, how much does a sub use anyway? If you keep control over p2p, how much are they really going to take anyway? Anyone got numbers? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although the service is not available yet in my area, it is getting close and reports are it could be available in 2006 - check

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
only XX from you > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Brian Rohrbacher > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:15 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) &

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Smith
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:21 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) I agree, most sub's use about 1Mbps to 2Mbps if they very active downloading content (ftp, streaming, and

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, most sub's use about 1Mbps to 2Mbps if they very active downloading content (ftp, streaming, and some p2p) (I limit p2p on my system but allow some bursts) other traffic is not limited But when trying to sell a customer will go and say hey I can get 15Mbps from

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread danlist
ent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:28 PM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) > > > And that's why having them sealed into a contract like Bob believes in > protects you :) > > Won't

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Smith
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:43 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) I can get a 100Mbps or 200Mbps feed t

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Tom DeReggi
e its available. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ve

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Travis Johnson
e goal is to scoop up the clients before its available. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tuesday, December 27,

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Tom DeReggi wrote: Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them today, to your advantage, and lock them in. Charge install fees because you can, so yoour gear is paid for by the time FIOS does come, and you are in the position to be your most competitive. My view is

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Bob Moldashel
Travis Johnson wrote: I have been saying for YEARS on these lists that you can NOT compete on price... you have to compete on service and customer support. Period. We currently charge $10 per month more than CableOne. They are selling an "up to 3meg connection" for $29.95. I currently sell a

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Travis Johnson
LOL. Because I still enjoy coming to work each day and I'm making a good living... and I get to do what I want from replacing bad radios on top of 9,000ft mountains to changing out light bulbs (literally)... ;) Of course, there are days that aren't so good Christmas Eve I had to

RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread G.Villarini
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread John Scrivner
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them toda

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread John Thomas
y, December 27, 2005 4:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) Seriously, how much does a sub use anyway? If you keep control over p2p, how much are they really going to take anyway? Anyone got numbers? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread Travis Johnson
f Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them today, to your advantage, and lock them in. Charge install fees because

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-27 Thread John Scrivner
5 6:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) Bob made a good point regarding contracts. Use the you can serve them today, to your advantage, and lock them in. Charge install fees because you can, so yoour gear is paid for by the

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
effectively than digging up the streets and getting the permits to do so. . Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "G.Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Tu

Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need)

2005-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing (how much speed do they really need) I am not going to debate what the u