Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-14 Thread James Michael Keller
On 08/13/2015 05:15 PM, Chuck Enfield wrote: I suspect you're that ARM can be made to work, but the question is how to do it. Aruba doesn't tell you what the various indices should be, they just say that they vary with deployment density. Ask the question on Airheads and you get: 95%

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-14 Thread Chuck Enfield
Enfield chu...@psu.edu; WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs On 08/13/2015 05:15 PM, Chuck Enfield wrote: I suspect you're that ARM can be made to work, but the question is how to do it. Aruba doesn't tell you what the various indices

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-14 Thread James Michael Keller
On 08/13/2015 05:28 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: I've heard good things about this specific Aruba solution, which at least aims to give a set of environment specific tuning settings: https://ase.arubanetworks.com/solutions/id/75 (I believe an Aruba support login is required to view)

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
@listserv.educause.edumailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu on behalf of Chuck Enfield Reply-To: Chuck Enfield Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 8:43 PM To: wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edumailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs 2, Turn down power on 2.4

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Chuck Enfield
- From: Frank Sweetser [mailto:f...@wpi.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:28 PM To: Chuck Enfield chu...@psu.edu; WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs I've heard good things about this specific Aruba solution, which at least aims

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Chuck Enfield
PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs On the Cisco, you also have a choice between TPCv1 coverage optimal mode or TPCv2 Interference Optimal. For dense deployments, you really want to be using TPCv2. Jeff On 8/13/15, 1:05 PM

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Chuck Enfield
, August 13, 2015 4:05 PM To: Chuck Enfield chu...@psu.edu; WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs On 08/13/2015 03:40 PM, Chuck Enfield wrote: Just to be clear, we don’t have to do these things to make wireless work. It makes it work

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Chuck Enfield
: wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu on behalf of Chuck Enfield Reply-To: Chuck Enfield Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 8:43 PM To: wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread James Michael Keller
On 08/13/2015 03:40 PM, Chuck Enfield wrote: Just to be clear, we don’t have to do these things to make wireless work. It makes it work better. But it is sometimes necessary to make wireless work acceptably in the most challenging environments. That said, left to defaults Aruba’s ARM also

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
, August 12, 2015 at 4:39 PM To: wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edumailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Does anyone employ band-steering? When we enabled it, we saw a massive jump of users connecting at 5ghz. Obviously if the client

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Paul Sedy
: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:49 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Single SSID – anything else just

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-13 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
On the Cisco, you also have a choice between TPCv1 coverage optimal mode or TPCv2 Interference Optimal. For dense deployments, you really want to be using TPCv2. Jeff On 8/13/15, 1:05 PM, The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of James Michael Keller

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Philippe Hanset
Paul, Dorm design is an animal of itself and each school has its own set of challenges based on locations and policies. As much as I agree that 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz shouldn’t be on separate SSIDs for main campus, I have really changed my mind for dormitories. Those buildings are really micro

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jeremy Gibbs
@listserv.educause.edu'); Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Paul, We're an Aruba shop and, as Bruce of Liberty mentioned, for dense deployments we turn 2.4 ghz radios off on every other AP (typically edge of building APs). Our main performance issues were due to interference

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Hunter Fuller
To: wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Paul, We're an Aruba shop and, as Bruce of Liberty mentioned, for dense deployments we turn 2.4 ghz radios off on every other AP (typically edge of building APs). Our main performance issues were due

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
@listserv.educause.edumailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Paul, We're an Aruba shop and, as Bruce of Liberty mentioned, for dense deployments we turn 2.4 ghz radios off on every other AP (typically edge of building APs). Our main performance issues were due

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Chuck Enfield
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:39:29 PM Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Does anyone employ band-steering? When we enabled it, we saw a massive jump of users connecting at 5ghz. Obviously if the client doesn't support 5ghz or it just

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Frans Panken
Paul, I am not a supporter of this. Mainly because I think Wi-Fi knowledge for the end-user should be minimised. Users should just see the SSID and connect; options to choose from should be minimized. The most important thing users must learn is checking the correctness of the Radius server to

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jason Cook
: +61 8 8313 4800 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mathieu Sturm Sent: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 6:36 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs I agree

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Latchezar Filtchev
Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Frans Panken Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 9:31 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Paul, I am not a supporter of this. Mainly because I think Wi-Fi

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Mathieu Sturm
Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Namens Frans Panken Verzonden: woensdag 12 augustus 2015 8:31 Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs Paul, I am not a supporter of this. Mainly because I think Wi-Fi knowledge

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Stephen Oglesby
Paul, We're an Aruba shop and, as Bruce of Liberty mentioned, for dense deployments we turn 2.4 ghz radios off on every other AP (typically edge of building APs). Our main performance issues were due to interference and channel utilization on the 2.4 ghz spectrum. We attempted reducing 2.4 ghz

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Tevlin, Dave
Paul, Similar to the concept that Jason mentioned earlier, I heard of a wireless setup at an Educause conference a while back with separate SSIDs for 2.4 and 5. What helped them, unfortunately can't remember who it was, was adding 'FAST' to the 5Ghz SSID name to help steer users to the 5Ghz band.

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Jake Snyder
The challenge for FAST networks is when you don't have 5ghz dense enough to cover everywhere. What will happen is users will be walking and run into places where they drop from 5Ghz. And they will manually connect to the 2.4Ghz SSID. Without having the ability to tune which network is

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Exclusive 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz SSIDs

2015-08-12 Thread Christopher Stave
At Drew we very recently moved away from multiple SSIDs for this purpose, but we had 'drew' on both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz and '5drew' on just the 5GHz range. I don't remember exactly, but when we initially set it up some devices would connect in alphabetical order and preferred the 5drew network for