Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches?

2016-03-01 Thread Lee H Badman
Hi Everyone, Not looking for a lot of input on all of the things you CAN do- just asking a focused question for those that are doing it. We're piloting the ability for students to self-register games, TVs, Roku, etc. but am astounded at how hard some devices are to find MAC addresses for from

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2016-03-01 Thread Seward, Bill
IRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Thanks, Bill. How do you deal with Amazon Echo, specifically? For that matter, is that how-to available to share? I've seen other schools' guides, but none that inclu

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2016-03-01 Thread trent . hurt
, March 1, 2016 3:09 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? I’m curious how PPSK scales. What are the limits on the number and span of a PPSK? From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv

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2016-03-01 Thread Forrester, Matthew
: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Not sure how up to date this is… http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XhUW84JOJj4/TdZdX3YbIJI/AAA/BpQ7LDfc5Yo/s1600/comparison%2Bbetween%2BPPSK.jpg From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN

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2016-03-02 Thread Chris Adams (IT)
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 5:18 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? I believe that is a bit out of date! We use Aerohive and their PPSK option extensively. We love the feature. The total numbe

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2016-03-01 Thread Seward, Bill
se notify the sender immediately by email and delete the original message. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:12 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELE

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2016-03-01 Thread Lee H Badman
5.443.3003 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv on behalf of Seward, Bill Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:24:11 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? It takes som

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2016-03-01 Thread Thomas Carter
lege From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:12 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches?

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2016-03-01 Thread Williams, Matthew
eless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? This is something we str

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2016-03-01 Thread Thomas Carter
ustin College From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Williams, Matthew Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:22 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth t

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2016-03-01 Thread Manon Lessard
ESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter Sent: 1 mars 2016 11:04 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Yep, but it feels like we're always playing catch up. Especially in spring after every

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2016-03-01 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
From: Lee H Badman [mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 9:12 AM Subject: Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Hi Everyone, Not looking for a lot of input on all of the things you CAN do- just asking a focused question for those that are doing it. We're pil

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2016-03-01 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
USE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Hi Everyone, Not looking for a lot of input on all of the things you CAN do- just asking a focused question for those that are doing it. We're piloting the ability for students to self-register games,

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2016-03-01 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
D. Sessler [mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu] Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Playing devils advocate, I have to ask the opposite, which is why put up a barrier in the first place to the student on-boarding their device(s

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2016-03-01 Thread Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)
: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 12:02 PM Subject: Re: Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Ruckus supports a PPSK variant, as well. I'm just gonna put this out there. I have this idea in my head for an ideal wifi service. It starts with personal pre-shared key (PPSK), but it's

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2016-03-01 Thread Thomas Carter
M To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Who keeps the original boxes? ​ Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Network Services - Wireless (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since

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2016-03-01 Thread Dale W. Carder
Dale W. Carder > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:06 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the > headaches? > > There are of course lots of vendors selling lots of products to solve > lots of "

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2016-03-01 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
' to dept 'b'. > >Dale > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale W. Carder >> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:06 PM &g

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2016-03-01 Thread Thomas Carter
AUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale W. Carder Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 12:43 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Thus spake Lee H Badman (lhbad...@syr.edu) on Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 06:19:55PM +: > Interestin

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2016-03-01 Thread Chuck Enfield
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Ruckus supports a PPSK variant, as well. I'm just gonna put this out there. I have this idea in my head for an ideal wifi service. It starts with personal pre-shared key (PPSK), but it's somethi

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2016-03-01 Thread Dale W. Carder
> > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > >> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale W. Carder > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:06 PM > >> To: WIRELE

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2016-03-01 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
t; >and none of the few hundred virtual firewalls we run blindly allow much >> >of anything through be it from wireless or from dept 'a' to dept 'b'. >> > >> >Dale >> > >> > >> > >> >> -Original Messag

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2016-03-02 Thread Bruce Curtis
l case. Security is handled >>> at the application layer. Your IP address is not an authorization token, >>> and none of the few hundred virtual firewalls we run blindly allow much >>> of anything through be it from wireless or from dept 'a' to dept 'b'

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2016-03-01 Thread Tim Tyler
Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2016 8:12 AM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Hi Everyone, Not looking for a

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2016-03-01 Thread Jerry Bucklaew
On 03/01/2016 09:11 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: Hi Everyone, Not looking for a lot of input on all of the things you CAN do- just asking a focused question for those that are doing it. We're piloting the ability for students to self-register games, TVs, Roku, etc. but am astounded at how hard

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2016-03-01 Thread Ian McDonald
, Bill<mailto:bill.sew...@pfeiffer.edu> Sent: ‎01/‎03/‎2016 14:25 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? It takes some time and effort on IT’s part each seme

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2016-03-01 Thread Hinojosa,Rafael
Clearpass Guest has the ability to do this. We’ve been working on a move towards CPPM Guest since keeping our own page, scripts, & DB of MAC Registrations is a bit of a pain & is prone to user error. CPPM Guest would still require a MAC Registration page / interface, but its flexible, simple,

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2016-03-01 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
ply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 6:11 AM To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIREL

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2016-03-01 Thread Thomas Carter
stin College From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:03 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth

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2016-03-01 Thread Lee H Badman
-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Hi Everyone, Not looking for a lot of input on all of the things you CAN do- just

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2016-03-01 Thread Frank Sweetser
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2016-03-01 Thread David R. Morton
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? This is something we struggle with, especially being a small school. Keeping up with the latest Chromecast/Roku/Amazon Echo, etc devices is near impossible. A bi

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2016-03-01 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
t;" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 6:11 AM To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC

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2016-03-01 Thread Thomas Carter
-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? I struggle with this all the time, and I have a distinct feeling that we’ve got it wrong. Who made the decision to limit the campus WiFi to the campus community only? That’s really

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2016-03-01 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
splay the instructions for > finding the MAC address, including screen shots, based on the device that > you selected in the drop down. > > Respectfully, > > Matt > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >

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2016-03-01 Thread David R. Morton
selected in the drop down. Respectfully, Matt From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:01 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>

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2016-03-01 Thread Mike Cunningham
-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of David R. Morton Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:21 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? Joel, thanks for the detailed reply. I agree that Personal PSK is an interesting idea,

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2016-03-01 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
serv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 9:31 AM To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN

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2016-03-01 Thread Lee H Badman
ffrey D. Sessler Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 12:37 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? I think your legal needs to revisit their position. There are a number of great articles about the EDU requiremen

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2016-03-01 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? From the perspective of a small school: · Bandwidth; we barely have enough as it is. S

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2016-03-01 Thread Philippe Hanset
Behalf Of David R. Morton > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:21 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the > headaches? > > Joel, thanks for the detailed reply. I agree that Personal PSK is an > i

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2016-03-01 Thread Coehoorn, Joel
71* > > > > *From:* Coehoorn, Joel [mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 1, 2016 12:02 PM > *Subject:* Re: Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? > > > > Ruckus supports a PPSK variant, as well. > > > > I'm just go

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2016-03-01 Thread Thomas Carter
sues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Sessler Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 11:46 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? If you get rid of the cost o

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2016-03-01 Thread Jeffrey D. Sessler
ESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2016 at 9:45 AM To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth

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2016-03-01 Thread Dale W. Carder
o: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the > headaches? > > I think your legal needs to revisit their position. There are a number of > great articles about the EDU requirements of DMCA. A university is every bit >

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2016-03-01 Thread Lee H Badman
Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale W. Carder Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:06 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Self-registered MAC device bypass- worth the headaches? There are of course lots of vendors selling lots of