Re: [WSG] entities

2004-01-12 Thread Universal Head
Thanks very much for that - now I get it! Peter ’ is an alternate (easier to remember) code than the official unicode definition of ’. All possible characters have a specific number assigned to them in Unicode. The lettered helpers came out after unicode was out to ease the pain of having to re

Re: [WSG] entities

2004-01-12 Thread James Ellis
I added some links a while back about kangxi radicals etc etc to the WSG site http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat18 Interestingly you can do a quick script to test compatibility in browsers for the various unicode characters.. $i=0; while print "&#".$i.";"; i++; For most of the chrs

[WSG] Percentages

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Message I started using percentages for font-size after they were recommended on this list.   However, I see a few issues, which might be easily corrected??   For example when I set the following properties in the style sheet   li {     font-size: 90% }   now consider the following  

RE: [WSG] Percentages

2004-01-12 Thread Mark Stanton
ul ul { font-size: 100%; } so everytime you hit a nested you reset your size to 100%. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * Th

Re: [WSG] Percentages

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
Hi Taco, There are two issues here. 1. The html sample is invalid as the nested list must be inside an li element, not between them. Blah 2. a simple rule will fix this, as it is simply applying the percentage size to nested elements: li { font-size: 90%; } li li { font-siz

Re: [WSG] Percentages

2004-01-12 Thread James Ellis
How about setting the ul to 100% and the li to 90%.. so you are setting li's to 90% of the ul.. Possibly could do this as well... ul li {  font-size : 90%; } HTH James Taco Fleur wrote: Message I started using percentages for font-size after they were recommended on this list.

RE: [WSG] Percentages

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
And that 100% is then actually the 90% I actually wanted in the first place? ;-)) Taco Fleur Blog http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/ Methodology http://www.tacofleur.com/index/methodology/ 0421 851 786 Tell me and I will forget Show me and I will remember Teach me and I will learn > -Ori

RE: [WSG] Percentages

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
The sample was invalid, wasn't thinking, but its not how I had it on my site. (just did a double check, and it is too! Fixed now) li li { font-size: 100%; } Did the trick, cheers guys. Taco Fleur Blog http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/ Methodology http://www.tacofleur.com/index/methodology/

[WSG] ?

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Message I am having a bit of a blond day, so blond I can't even think of a subject for this email.   The problem should be apparent on the following link http://development.tacofleur.com/index/global/comment/?id=9&action=""> I played around with it a bit, but can't figure it out...  

Re: [WSG] Subject headings (was: ?)

2004-01-12 Thread Ben Bishop
Taco Fleur wrote: I am having a bit of a blond day, so blond I can't even think of a subject for this email. Hi Taco, If you're stuck for a subject header, this great resource, found by following links from a recently posted link by Mark Stanton, has a good section on writing effective, mean

RE: [WSG] Subject headings (was: ?)

2004-01-12 Thread Miles Tillinger
oh man, I'm such a luser! Good stuff though, at least now I understand why I get ignored a lot... mt. -Original Message- From: Ben Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Subject headings (was: ?) Taco Fleur w

[WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
I have a DIV on my page that runs through the Navigation menu, I'd like it not to run through the navigation menu. Although I would like it to be 100% in width, thus taking up all the space it is allowed to take up. I have been trying several thing with it, but to no avail. I also validated my pa

Re: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
Taco, While text will stop at the edge of a floated item, borders and background colours will extend under a floated item - this is normal float behaviour. You can see this in operation here: http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/introduction18.htm http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/intro

[WSG] [OT] Just an opinion - no offense intended

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Message It has nothing to do with today, I felt like this for a while now, just decided to write about it today.   http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/archive/2004/01/?131410   Any flames can be send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Taco Fleur Blog http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/Methodo

RE: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
Hmm, it's a global include so if I'd tweak it for one page then it would be tweaked for all, which is not what I want.. I guess the only way around it will be to remove the border and background. It's normal behavior you say, is it also correct behavior? i.e. is it working like that for a reason,

RE: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread Mark Stanton
Hey Taco Have you thought about using a class on the body tag to identify that specific page & write custom rules for it. I have found that this is often useful in solving similar problems. Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410

Re: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
Yes, this is correct behaviour. The background of your comments div should slide under the floated item - the right nav. The foreground (the text) should not slide under, instead it should stop against the edge of the floated item. There is a good reason for it. The reason for this is to do with a

RE: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
Hi Mark, Nope, I did not think about that, sounds interesting how would that work? However again, there is an issue, i.e. when you see the site there is only ONE page that contains this layout - all the other page are just dsp pages and contain nothing but text and get included in the layout pag

Re: [WSG] [OT] Just an opinion - no offense intended

2004-01-12 Thread Chris Blown
I understand where you are coming from Taco. This sort of feeling is not uncommon for mailing lists and forums that cover potentially complex subject matter. The fear of being flamed is usually unwarranted though. People are subscribed to this list to learn, help out and generally promote web sta

RE: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread Mark Stanton
Image I have a picture that appears once on lots of pages so I give it: with the style: img#galah { border:0; } But on one page I want to give it more emphasis - I decide that a big pink border will be perfect - how do I do this? Well on the page in question I put a class or id on the body:

[WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread stuart
Can someone with a PC and IE check this site/page for me, http://www.weddingphotography.com.au/prices/index.htm It has been behaving badly from day 1 my client is very old school and the best trouble shooting message I can get out them is "it doesn't work". They are unable to tell me what versio

Re: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
Mark, That is an excellent example! I'd use ID whenever the item is unique on a page - as it would have to be here. ID's have more specificity than classes and that may be needed at some point when/if there is a conflict. 2cents Russ > > Image I have a picture that appears once on lots of page

RE: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread Lindsay Evans
stuart wrote: > Can someone with a PC and IE check this site/page for me, > http://www.weddingphotography.com.au/prices/index.htm Crashes IE 6 & 5.5 on Windows XP here, no idea why though, sorry. (I just saved the HTML locally & had a look - everything was okay, so I'd say it's something in the C

RE: [WSG] DIV not displaying as I want, browser IE6

2004-01-12 Thread Taco Fleur
Cheers for that mate, it looks like a brilliant solution.. Taco Fleur Blog http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/ Methodology http://www.tacofleur.com/index/methodology/ 0421 851 786 Tell me and I will forget Show me and I will remember Teach me and I will learn > -Original Message- > F

Re: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread David McDonald
The client's description of: "text initially" and "then changed back to what it should look like complete with pics" sounds like the infamous FUSC , or Flash of Unstyled Content. More info can be found here: http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp as well as a google search: http://www.go

RE: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread Gary Menzel
> Crashes IE 6 & 5.5 on Windows XP here, no idea why though, sorry. (I just > saved the HTML locally & had a look - everything was okay, so I'd say it's > something in the CSS) Yes - same story here. IE 6 on XP crashes with a "Send this error to MS" type dialog. Something is very evil on that

RE: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread stuart
At 15:58 +1000 13/1/04, Gary Menzel wrote: Yes - same story here. IE 6 on XP crashes with a "Send this error to MS" type dialog. Something is very evil on that page (at least that would be Bill's story if you asked him). Works fine in Mozilla Firebird though. While I have become partial to Firebi

Re: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread Alastair Weakley
HI It crashes safari for me, except when I comment out this bit: #content p:first-letter { font-size: 1.5em; vertical-align: -5px; text-indent: 2px; } Alastair On 13 Jan 2004, at 16:29, stuart wrote: Can someone with a PC and IE check this site/page for me, http://www.we

RE: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread Miles Tillinger
yes, that's the culprit for IE6 for me as well... works fine without that definition. -Original Message- From: Alastair Weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Alastair Weakley Subject: Re: [WSG] Big trouble! HI It crashes s

Re: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread stuart
At 17:26 +1100 13/1/04, Alastair Weakley wrote: HI It crashes safari for me, except when I comment out this bit: #content p:first-letter { font-size: 1.5em; vertical-align: -5px; text-indent: 2px; } Thanks Alastair, do you simply adding a comment before that statement su

Re: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread Alastair Weakley
I use BBedit, which has a comment function, it gives something like this: /* #content p:first-letter */ /* { */ /* font-size: 1.5em; */ /* vertical-align: -5px; */ /* text-indent: 2px; */ /* } */ AW On 13 Jan 2004, at 17:41, stuart wrote: At 17:26 +1100 13/1/04, Alastair Weakley wr

RE: [WSG] Big trouble!

2004-01-12 Thread stuart
At 17:07 +1030 13/1/04, Miles Tillinger wrote: yes, that's the culprit for IE6 for me as well... works fine without that definition. So now that Alastair suggestion fixed the problem ( I owe you a beer/scotch/pizza, whatever) is there someplace that this can be noted for prosperity/future refe

[WSG] Colored boxes - one method of building full CSS layouts

2004-01-12 Thread russ weakley
How do you go about building a full CSS layout? Is there an overall method that can be used for any layout? Colored boxes - one method of building full CSS layouts: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/process/index.cfm This article explains one method of building a full CSS layout from start