Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

Dean Jackson wrote: Yeah! Wouldn't it have been fantastic to have a real multi-column, grid-like layout mechanism? (It probably *still* would be fantastic to have one :). Yeah, although I'm glad tables are gone the one thing I miss is the width or height of one cell affecting the next. Grids were

Re: [WSG] [ADMIN] Site review requests and new Brisbane organiser

Can I add one more thing to the site review thing? I often see people asking for their site to be checked on "on a Mac", which doesn't really make much sense if you think about it. I can test it for you in the very latest build of FireFox, but that probably isn't what you mean... There are: * b

Re: [WSG] variations on @import syntax?

browser filters chart: http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/index.php Very useful, thanks a lot Russ. I'm a bit disturbed to see that this particular syntax will "Destroy" (i.e. hang) some Windows Netscape 4 versions: http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/css_only/import_single_quotes_no_u

Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

On 23 Feb 2005, at 09:49, John Allsopp wrote: John, What I want is the ability to align the content of a DIV, for instance, or any block element, vertically, and I'm asking why it wasn't included in CSS-1. I can't think of any policy-type reason why it wasn't, that's all, and I don't see vertic

[WSG] [ADMIN] Site review requests and new Brisbane organiser

Hi all, When asking for site reviews please A) put at least the client name or domain name (not the full path if it's deeper, and no need for http:// or www.) in the title so that the subject lines are a little easier to separate and B) put your email address in the message for those that don't

Re: [WSG] Site review

Pat Boens wrote: Can you have a review of the following site, which I derived from http://www.alistapart.com. The work is a bit special though because I am using pure XML, somehow turned to XHTML via XSL. Of course, doing this makes it automatically inaccessible to any user who doesn't have clie

Re: [WSG] FW: Site review

Excellent choice of colours and a well planned layout, make a near perfect website. I love that strong orange background, it really brings out the website's character. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstan

Re: [WSG] Site review

> The work is a bit special though because I am using pure XML, somehow turned > to XHTML via XSL. I'm not sure that using XML for a complete website is very wise, considering we already have the same sort of features in XHTML coupled with CSS.

Re: [WSG] Site Critique

Debra Reese wrote: Hi List Members! Could anyone spare a moment to give some general comments about a site I am working on? The site is: http://marketstreetgrill.net I'd like to hear from willing Mac users. I am working on a PC. This is my first public critique ever, so please don't lambaste me f

Re: [WSG] variations on @import syntax?

There are a wide range of variations. Each variation will allow you to target different browsers. Here are some: @import url(styles.css) not all; @import url(styles.css) all; @import url(styles.css) All; @import "null?\"\{"; @import "styles.css"; @import "null?\"\}"; @import'styles.css'; @import"s

[WSG] variations on @import syntax?

I just noticed that on Zeldman's website his CSS is imported like this: @import "/c/c04.css"; which I don't think I've ever seen before. I normally see @import url(/c/c04.css) is there some hack being invoked here, or is it just a matter of style? ---

[WSG] colour contrast analyser 1.0

the colour contrast analyser 1.0 a free tool for checking foreground & background colour combinations to determine if they provide good colour visibility. Determining "colour visibility" is based on algorithms suggested by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C): is now available in english: http://w

Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

John Horner wrote: You have a point, but that's CSS version *two*, isn't it? What I want is the ability to align the content of a DIV, for instance, or any block element, vertically, and I'm asking why it wasn't included in CSS-1. I can't think of any policy-type reason why it wasn't, that's all

Re: [WSG] Web counters

On Tuesday 22 February 2005 18:33, Kornel Lesinski wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:16:17 -0800, InfoForce Services > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope this is not off topic. If it is, reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > What is a good web standards web counter to add to a web site to monitor > > w

Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

John, What I want is the ability to align the content of a DIV, for instance, or any block element, vertically, and I'm asking why it wasn't included in CSS-1. I can't think of any policy-type reason why it wasn't, that's all, and I don't see vertical alignment as being directly related to tabl

Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

centered The word "centered" is nicely centered (at least in FF). Internet Explorer does not support table-cell, or table-row for display, but this is not the fault of CSS. You have a point, but that's CSS version *two*, isn't it? What I want is the ability to align the content of a DIV, for insta

Re: [WSG] Cool css box idea

Yeah, round corners is something. I did it this way (http://siter.com.au/dmitry) -- Best regards, Dmitry Baranovskiy ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

I'm not including it as a link, so people are going to have to copy and paste it anyways.  I'm including a form on the page so that those who want to contact me directly, can. And Mike, just email me at this address, thanks :-) Patrick Lauke wrote: Alan Trick The numb

[WSG] Site review

I am new to Web Standards and I would like to know whether what I have done so far seems correct for the gurus.   Can you have a review of the following site, which I derived from http://www.alistapart.com. The work is a bit special though because I am using pure XML, somehow turned to XH

RE: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

Alan, I'll mail you the ASP source off-list. PHP is almost a sibling to ASP and most of the routines are array storage and iteration. You should be able to translate it easily. I presume you're using the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Mike > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailt

Re: [WSG] Web counters

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:16:17 -0800, InfoForce Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hope this is not off topic. If it is, reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is a good web standards web counter to add to a web site to monitor web site hits. Some counters will say that hitting the back button to

[WSG] Web counters

I hope this is not off topic. If it is, reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is a good web standards web counter to add to a web site to monitor web site hits. Some counters will say that hitting the back button to go back as a web site hit. A client would like to see how many times the web site I bu

RE: [WSG] code formatting

Hope Stewart on Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:38 PM said: > By some fluke, however, I discovered (though I'm sure I'm not the > first!) that if I moved the tag to the end of the previous > line -- instead of it being on a line by itself -- that the unwanted > margin i

RE: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

> Alan Trick > The number of people who will ever see the invisible text is pretty > small and I think it's pretty self explanitory how to get the address > out of there if their UA doesn't support 'display:none'. The problem is not UA (browser, in this case) support for display:none; it's the

Re: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

Thanks for the replies. I've desided to just go with something like this: m{remove this text for email address, it is inserted to avoid spam}[EMAIL PROTECTED] The number of people who will ever see the invisible text is pretty small and I think it's pretty self explanitory how to get the addres

RE: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

Alan, I've looked at this for a while and there is no guaranteed way of throttling spambots; however, you can confuse the simpler efforts and certainly slow the more determined scrapers. I wrote a server side app to encode email and mailto: addresses in ISO, Hex or mixed obfuscation. It's at: ht

RE: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

> Kornel Lesinski > You can encode mail with URLencode and then with decimal and > hexadecimal > HTML entities, example implementation: > http://wiki.pornel.ldreams.net/encje The problem with this type of method: once a method gets popular (because it temporarily works), bot writers are more t

RE: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

> Alan Trick > I'm wondering if any of you have any tips on creative ways to keep > spambots from harvesting email addresses on you page, and still keep > then accessable to diabled people and text-browsers. Interestingly, there were similar discussions this month on two other lists:

Re: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:33:51 -0500, Alan Trick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm wondering if any of you have any tips on creative ways to keep spambots from harvesting email addresses on you page, and still keep then accessable to diabled people and text-browsers. Anyone else have any good so

Re: [WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

Hi Alan I prefer to use the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" method, as it's pretty self-explanatory and easier to understand that me[-at-]foo[-dot-]bar. There are other options, such as using a simple (ie: plaintext, no image-generation) CAPTCHA that then directs the site visitor to a page with the email

RE: [WSG] table background images with CSS

John Wrote: > I'm having a bit of a mind lapse, I think, because I can't get the > background image to span the table rows. Take a look at this demo from the master: http://stopdesign.com/present/2004/sydney/beauty/?no=64 Click on 'playing with backgrounds' HTH aj

[WSG] accessible ways to avoid spam

I'm wondering if any of you have any tips on creative ways to keep spambots from harvesting email addresses on you page, and still keep then accessable to diabled people and text-browsers. Here's my thoughts * You could do something like me[AT]foo[DOT]bar but the problem with this is th

Re: [WSG] table background images with CSS

Do you have a link to a live example of this behavior? Are your XHTML and CSS valid? Are there other styles inadvertently tied to other s that are blocking out the #layout background styles? On Feb 22, 2005, at 6:05 AM, john wrote: First off, let me say that yes, I'm using a single table for the

RE: [WSG] WSG thoghts on XUL

> Dean Jackson > XUL is a much smaller technology than XAML. [...] > I doubt you'll be using the fact that both are XML to > transform between one and the other. Fair enough. I'll admit to not really knowing too much about XAML, hence my naive generalistation (or wishful thinking really). Thanks

Re: [WSG] WSG thoghts on XUL

On 22 Feb 2005, at 21:07, Patrick Lauke wrote: Dean Jackson [snip] I don't think it's beyond the scope of the W3C. We're constantly looking at technologies like XUL. Do people see the need for standardisation in this area? I'd welcome some standardisation, but as John Allsopp already mentioned, MS

Re: [WSG] WSG thoghts on XUL

John, On 22 Feb 2005, at 15:42, John Allsopp wrote: I don't think it's beyond the scope of the W3C. We're constantly looking at technologies like XUL. Do people see the need for standardisation in this area? Sure. I think the real benefit of standardisation and standards bodies is not necessarily

Re: [WSG] FW: Site review

I like the color choices. Gives it a strong individual identity. Rosemary Norwood Blackwork Web Intelligence ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posti

Re: [WSG] table background images with CSS

Thanks for the reply, Bert. Yes, the image is tall enough to do what I want, and I don't want to tile it. It seems that no matter what I try, the image isn't showing in the "navbar" or "header" (even though the CSS is in the "layout" ID, which is attached to the table itself. ~john __

Re: [WSG] table background images with CSS

Hi John background: #CC url('images/bass.png') no-repeat right top; in the "layout" ID so that it can span vertically through the table rows, but all I'm getting is a bit of it shown in the "sidebar" ID. I want it see it shown through the "navbar" and "header" ID's as well. With the above CS

RE: [WSG] FW: Site review

Thanks for all the feedback. I will get to work removing the pop-up windows - moving the content into the main page template makes sense and the accessibility advantages make it the obvious choice (easier than going back to HTML strict too!). I do care about mac users (being a part-time mac user m

[WSG] table background images with CSS

First off, let me say that yes, I'm using a single table for the layout of this project (my client insists upon it, since he doesn't trust CSS layout yet...go figure). I'm having a bit of a mind lapse, I think, because I can't get the background image to span the table rows. Here's the XHTML:

RE: [WSG] Other character sets/languages

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:31:09 -, Richard Ishida wrote: > I note that you used incorrect syntax for your CSS declarations - ending > declarations with ':' rather than ';'. I assume this is just a typo in this > message, rather than the potential source of the problems you had, since in > a CSS f

Re: [WSG] Centre DIV Vertically? Any compliant methods?

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:41:39 +1100, John Horner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Slightly off-[this]topic, but does anyone have an explanation for how > vertical alignment got "missed" in the creation of CSS? This topic > comes up again and again. I mean, forgive me for being crass, but did > they just

RE: [WSG] WSG thoghts on XUL

> Dean Jackson [snip] > I don't think it's beyond the scope of the W3C. We're > constantly looking > at technologies like XUL. Do people see the need for standardisation > in this area? I'd welcome some standardisation, but as John Allsopp already mentioned, MS went the XAML route...so once again

RE: [WSG] Standards and site structuring

Title: RE: [WSG] Standards and site structuring   This is already in development with WebML, as far as I know the project has re started. -Original Message- From: Rick Faaberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 February 2005 04:12 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Stan

RE: [WSG] Table content displayed as a list

Title: RE: [WSG] Table content displayed as a list I'd say that if it's a list, then format it as a list as using CSS to bastardise your document seems to defeat the object. If it's dynamic, can you not just output the data into a list instead? -Original Message- From: RMW Web Publi

RE: [WSG] Site Critique

Hi Debra Overall, a nice design, just one point. In IE6 win xp, the background image/floorplan in the content area moves when switching between high contrast/low contrast. I haven't looked into why, no time right now, but when this has happened to me it's been a background positioning issue. Good

Re: [WSG] Standards and site structuring

Well, for the URL design bit, I wrote a page about it a while ago, and this is the condensed version. Aside from URLs I think there's a convention that clicking on the logo of a site goes to the homepage. And it's popular to use an accesskey of "?" to go to the search engine. Nothing else comes to

RE: [WSG] Other character sets/languages

Hello Lea, I note that you used incorrect syntax for your CSS declarations - ending declarations with ':' rather than ';'. I assume this is just a typo in this message, rather than the potential source of the problems you had, since in a CSS file it would generally cause the declaration to fail.