Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits

2007-07-11 Thread Paul Collins
Funny you should send that one Kevin, I am literally just scoping around for a similar solution to the site I have just built. I was recommended these two aparrently free CMS solutions by another client. http://www.dotnetnuke.com/ http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/ I am only just taking a look now

Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits

2007-07-11 Thread Ryan Moore
dotnetnuke has some nice functionality, but out of the box is an accessibility nightmare. On 7/11/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny you should send that one Kevin, I am literally just scoping around for a similar solution to the site I have just built. I was recommended these two

[WSG] RE: WSG Digest

2007-07-11 Thread Greg Hacke
I would avoid CMSMadeSimple It's not a bad CMS but _everything_ is after-market and it is very difficult to maintain as standards compliant. I use WebGUI (www.webgui.org) right now for CMS work. It maintains compliance quite well - although its server requirements are a bit higher. Greg Hacke

Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits

2007-07-11 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 11-Jul-07, at 4:09 AM, Kevin Ross wrote: Now that I have a realization that I need to incorporate some sort of a CMS solution, can anyone lead me to resources that may help to teach me the ropes? I am leaning towards PHP, as I am somewhat familiar with the language. Thanks. Hi Kevin,

Re: [WSG] RE: WSG Digest

2007-07-11 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks Greg, just taking a look at WebGUI, looks really good. On 11/07/07, Greg Hacke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would avoid CMSMadeSimple It's not a bad CMS but _everything_ is after-market and it is very difficult to maintain as standards compliant. I use WebGUI (www.webgui.org) right now

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Susan Grossman
Here are some helpful links: Color Design: http://www.sessions.edu/career_center/design_tools/color_calculator/index.asp and Color Theory: http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html Sample CSS Page Design Layouts for understanding how templates layout

RE: [WSG] Client - Site Edits

2007-07-11 Thread Michael Perrett
I would suggest taking a look at ModX (www.modxcms.com). It has less features than some of the others, but creates accessible sites and is PHP based. Mike Perrett --- 123 Interactive Brighton Media Centre 68 Middle Street Brighton BN1 1AL 07843497356

[WSG] Paul Gibson is out of the office. [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2007-07-11 Thread Paul . Gibson
I will be out of the office starting 12/07/2007 and will not return until 16/07/2007. I will respond to your message when I return. Contact my mobile if urgent. Important Notice: If you have received this email by mistake, please advise the sender and delete the message and attachments

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread James Jeffery
Hi Marvin, It sounds like your trying to do to much to soon. First, lets understand the different aspects of web development. 1) Web Design - This involves understanding colors, extensive knowledge in graphics applications such as photoshop, illustrator or fireworks. 2) Front End - This is

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Not that this will necessarily address Marvin's issues, but I just couldn't let it go by :-) First, lets understand the different aspects of web development. 1) Web Design - This involves understanding colors, extensive knowledge in graphics applications such as photoshop, illustrator or

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread James Jeffery
Yep and i would totally agree, but try telling that to marvin and youll confuse the poor guy, i was keeping things very simple for him/her. From past knowledge, if your to add jargon (which it is to marvin here) you would do more damage then good at this stage. But yep Hassan is right. This

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Seona Bellamy
On 12/07/07, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep and i would totally agree, but try telling that to marvin and youll confuse the poor guy, i was keeping things very simple for him/her. From past knowledge, if your to add jargon (which it is to marvin here) you would do more damage then

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Breton Slivka
On 7/12/07, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that this will necessarily address Marvin's issues, but I just couldn't let it go by :-) First, lets understand the different aspects of web development. 1) Web Design - This involves understanding colors, extensive knowledge in

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Adeline Yaw
I'm currently doing the same course as Marvin (different stage and campus) and I don't think its a hinderance to be exposed to all sides of web development. I don't think they want us (students) to become all-rounders but to at least develop fundamental basics so if we are interested (eg.

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread James Ellis
Hi This is true, the C4 course in Web Technology or whatever it is called now at TAFE NSW aims to give everyone a grounding knowledge in the fundementals of well, web technology. This includes graphic design, database design, server side coding, project management and many others. Some people

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Breton Slivka wrote: Argghh no! the ignorance! Just stop going about thinking you know what you're talking about when it comes to Graphic Design! Graphic Design isn't Make it Purdy, Graphic design isn't Learn how to use photoshop. It's exactly that perception that leads to awful website

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2007-07-11 Thread Marvin Hunkin
Hi. yes, i know how to do html, css, javascript, and use notepad, but had to use dream weaver for one subjects, which was to improve a site, and have a flashy macromedia flash splash page, which i got a distinction for that, importing a flash control, a audio track, and putting together images

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread James Gollan
James Ellis wrote: Hi This is true, the C4 course in Web Technology or whatever it is called now at TAFE NSW aims to give everyone a grounding knowledge in the fundementals of well, web technology. This includes graphic design, database design, server side coding, project management and many

Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits

2007-07-11 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
On 11-Jul-07, at 4:09 AM, Kevin Ross wrote: Now that I have a realization that I need to incorporate some sort of a CMS solution, can anyone lead me to resources that may help to teach me the ropes? I am leaning towards PHP, as I am somewhat familiar with the language. Thanks. Hi Kevin,

Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits

2007-07-11 Thread James Gollan
It has been mentioned before, but I find Drupal has been great. It has modules for most things, has a fabulous extensible content system where you can define custom content types, a very powerful theming engine, and an incredibly modular approach to core functionality. When you learn how to use

Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Breton Slivka
On 7/12/07, Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: , you are wrong about graphic design. ..but seriously, I have *never* seen an ad for a Graphic Designer (or worse, mislabeled Web Designer) that looked for anything but Photoshop/Illustrator, possibly Flash, proficiency. Nothing about

[WSG] RE: WSG Digest

2007-07-11 Thread Chris Skene
Is this the Web Standards Group or the We Spam Group? Christopher Skene E-Business Officer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Land Water Australia knowledge for managing Australian landscapes Land Water Australia graphic Level 1, 86 Northbourne Ave, Braddon ACT GPO Box 2182, Canberra ACT 2601 phone +61

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2007-07-11 Thread Marc Wolfgram
On Jul 11, 2007, at 8:46 PM, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: Due to an upgrade of SmarterMail, digests seem to have had a problem. We are working on it. Question on digests... any sign of a light at the end of the tunnel? -- Marc

Re: [WSG] Client - Site Edits

2007-07-11 Thread Karl Lurman
I would also consider Contribute, but only if the site information architecture is relatively small and unlikely to change. You can create areas within your perfectly crafted html that the customer can edit and update with a desktop application. For the most part, it seems to function well from

[WSG] Making Accessible Flash

2007-07-11 Thread Robby Jennings
I'm trying to find some good information about making Flash accessible. When the developer is creating the flash animation they can add alt text and other elements to make them accessible. I'm in a situation where we're hosting externally created flash files on our page. When embedding these