Re: [WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Because the title attribute is part of Standards, screenreaders have been designed with a knowledge it, it's what they expect and it's what they use. So, no there is no better way. -- Stuart Foulstone. http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk BigEasy Web Design 69 Flockton Court Rockingham Street Sheffield

[WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Hello All - While I know that one should use improve accessibility of form eloements, it is also a common (best practice) to use a title attribute inside a link anchor like this: home If there's a better way, or if I'm completely incorrect regarding making my links more accessible, I'd greatly a

Re: [WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Quoting Cole Kuryakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hello All - While I know that one should use improve accessibility of form eloements, it is also a common (best practice) to use a title attribute inside a link anchor like this: home If there's a better way, or if I'm completely incorrect regarding

Re: [WSG] Accessibility of Nav Links using Title Tag??

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Quoting Stuart Foulstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Because the title attribute is part of Standards, screenreaders have been designed with a knowledge it, it's what they expect and it's what they use. Depending on user settings. Many screenreaders don't actually read title by default. So, no

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Tee G. Peng wrote: I got an impression that setting 100.1% fontsize in body tag is a better approach and have been doing so for many sites. Also, with the 100.1% in the body, I usually declare .85em (.95 for my site as I love big fontsize :) ) for paragraph and lists. I also find that I get a mor

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Fri, August 3, 2007 11:36 am, Rick Lecoat wrote: > At 10:13 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >>Client sent me this link, kind of suggesting that 62.5% is the better >>approach because his client isn't happy that now the heading texts >>are too small and the paragraph texts are t

Re: [WSG] Looking for a Stylesheet Switcher Script

2007-08-03 Thread Ryan Moore
Ya, it's colliding with another script i have but i'll figure it out. Thanks Again. On 8/3/07, Robert O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ryan Moore wrote: > > page cannot be displayed...??? > > > > On 8/2/07, *Robert O'Rourke* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > >

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 12:41 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >Note also that it doesn't actually work .../ snip / >IE ignores fractional components of percentages - or, as another way of >looking at it, only uses the first two decimal places of em based sizes - >which means that any subsequent use

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 10:13 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I got an impression that setting 100.1% fontsize in body tag is a >better approach and have been doing so for many sites. Also, with the >100.1% in the body, I usually declare .85em (.95 for my site as I >love big fontsize :) ) for

[WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi, I got an impression that setting 100.1% fontsize in body tag is a better approach and have been doing so for many sites. Also, with the 100.1% in the body, I usually declare .85em (.95 for my site as I love big fontsize :) ) for paragraph and lists. I also find that I get a more stabl

Re: [WSG] Looking for a Stylesheet Switcher Script

2007-08-03 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Ryan Moore wrote: page cannot be displayed...??? On 8/2/07, *Robert O'Rourke* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: http://webrocket.ulmb.com/ability/ Strange, works for me... The alistapart article someone sent you looks like

[WSG] Julie Watkins-Lyall is away from the office.

2007-08-03 Thread julie . watkins-lyall
I will be out of the office starting 03/08/2007 and will not return until 08/08/2007. I am attending a conference and will respond to your message when I return. If you require an urgent response, please leave a message on my mobile 0422917755. *

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Micky Hulse
Tee G. Peng wrote: What do you think? Save yourself a lot of headache, and use the YUI approach: It works wonders. :) Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: Switch: BCC?:

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 3 Aug 2007, at 16:08:55, Rick Lecoat wrote: At 12:41 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Note also that it doesn't actually work .../ snip / IE ignores fractional components of percentages - or, as another way of looking at it, only uses the first two decimal places of em

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: On 3 Aug 2007, at 16:08:55, Rick Lecoat wrote: When dealing with this the other year, I came up with this solution requiring an additional div, which happened to be there anyway: body { font-size: 125%; /* bump it up to 20px, assuming browser starts at 16px */ }

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/03 21:14 (GMT+0100) Patrick H. Lauke apparently typed: > Nick Fitzsimons wrote: >> On 3 Aug 2007, at 16:08:55, Rick Lecoat wrote: >> When dealing with this the other year, I came up with this solution >> requiring an additional div, which happened to be there anyway: >> body { >>

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Rick Lecoat
At 20:14 (London time), on 3/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >> (Still falls foul of a minimum font-size set in the browser preferences, >> though.) > >I wouldn't say it "falls foul". If a user has set a minimum size, then a >page should heed that. It still *respects* minimum font-size settings.

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/08/03 16:16 (GMT-0400) Rick Lecoat apparently typed: > So, in calculating your 'readable' text size as a proportion of the > (admittedly overlarge) default size, you make yourself vulnerable should > the user have already made their own compensation for the overly large > default size. Th

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Tee G. Peng
Hi Thanks for all the insightful feedback. I have a very limited freedom on this particular project. A previous version was done quite messy and it seemed time were waste quite a lot, so I was brought in to fix, clean up the code, but the end- client wanted the fontsize stays the same. The p

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Felix Miata wrote: (Still falls foul of a minimum font-size set in the browser preferences, though.) I wouldn't say it "falls foul". If a user has set a minimum size, then a page should heed that. It still *respects* minimum font-size settings. http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/Clagnut/eonsSS.htm

[WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
Good morning http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. Thanks Lyn www.westernwebdesign.com.au **

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Ah, a misunderstanding of terminology. I thought "minimum font-size settings" referred to things like Firefox's preference setting for disallowing fonts, even when resized by the user, to fall below a certain fixed size...while in this case y'all seem to mean the defaul

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Aug 4, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Back to Tee's problem with 'body {font-size: 62.5%}' etc in Opera/ Mac. It may be caused by the preset value for 'minimum font size' in that browser/OS. If someone can check the preset value for 'minimum font size' in an unaltered Opera/Mac

Re: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Scott Swabey
Lyn Patterson wrote: Good morning http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. Hi Lyn You have a typo in your clearfooter div:

[WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Hello All - After tearing my hair out for over 4 hours I come to you guys/gals for a fresh eye and perhaps a solution. I've got a simple class name (.active) attached to an "a" tag. This class is programmatically activated when a link is chosen and the page loads. When the chosen page loads, the

Re: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
Scott Swabey wrote: Lyn Patterson wrote: http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. You have a typo in your clearfooter div:

Re: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread James Gollan
FWIW seems to work in IE7 - dont have IE6 setup at the moment. On 8/4/07, Cole Kuryakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello All - > > After tearing my hair out for over 4 hours I come to you guys/gals for a > fresh eye and perhaps a solution. > > I've got a simple class name (.active) attached to

Re: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread James Gollan
you could try adding !IMPORTANT after the colour declaration just to see if it is an inheritance issue On 8/4/07, James Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FWIW seems to work in IE7 - dont have IE6 setup at the moment. > > On 8/4/07, Cole Kuryakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello All - >

RE: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> Good morning > > http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html > > On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its > width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but > cannot find the problem. Hi Lyn You have a typo in your clearfooter div: See if

RE: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread Kepler Gelotte
When the chosen page loads, the chosen link turns deep red. The declaration for this is as follows: /*ACTIVE LINKS ONLY*/ ul#navTopSimpleUL li a.active { color: #CC0033; cursor: default; text-decoration: none; } Hi Cole,, You may want to also set focus on the element an

Re: [WSG] Footer taking width from form

2007-08-03 Thread Lyn Patterson
http://www.colouru.com.au/contactus.html On this particular page in IE only, the #footer seems to be taking its width from the form. I have cleared everything I can think of but cannot find the problem. Another thing I find odd is that you are using an empty tag for your form inste

Re: [WSG] Please help! CSS/IE Link Color Problem

2007-08-03 Thread James Gollan
the given rule is not using a pseudo selector (:) - it is a simple class definition. This should be consistent across browsers. On 8/4/07, Kepler Gelotte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When the chosen page loads, the chosen link turns deep red. > > The declaration for this is as follows: > > /*ACT

[WSG] CSS/IE Link Color Problem - SOLVED

2007-08-03 Thread Cole Kuryakin
James and Kepler - Thank you both for your input; I tried suffixing the color and text declaration with !important and that solves the problem. So this, I guess, is an issue of IE's built-in proprietary styles over-riding user styles??? I've never run into that one before. Irritating. Aside from

Re: [WSG] setting fontsize in body

2007-08-03 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 3, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Aug 4, 2007, at 10:45 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Back to Tee's problem with 'body {font-size: 62.5%}' etc in Opera/ Mac. It may be caused by the preset value for 'minimum font size' in that browser/OS. If someone can check the preset

Re: [WSG] CSS/IE Link Color Problem - SOLVED

2007-08-03 Thread Tony Crockford
On 4 Aug 2007, at 05:46, Cole Kuryakin wrote: er-riding user styles??? I've never run into that one before. Irritating. Aside from the !important solution or the (as yet untried) focus solution that Kepler suggested, does anyone else have an even more elegant option or ... for my issue

RE: [WSG] CSS/IE Link Color Problem - SOLVED

2007-08-03 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> now I replace the link with the navigation text wrapped in a span > (programatically) and style the span to match my active/hover needs. > e.g. > ul#navTopSimpleUL li a:focus, > ul#navTopSimpleUL li a:hover, > ul#navTopSimpleUL li.active span > { > color: #CC0033; > cursor: defau