Yikes!
I know that feeling all too well!
It's like learning to fly on your way down feeling.
The worst part is giving up.
It is a nightmare...
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM, James Jeffery <
jamesjeffery@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Indeed. My only problem is I have lost future work from the gu
Sorry—got carried away. (:
On 30/01/2009, at 4:43 PM, William Donovan wrote:
Hang on,
did I miss something or is this completely OT (off topic).
Bible's, Gutenberg, print type faces...
Web Standards...?
William Donovan
mobile: 0403 263 284
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Simon Pascal Klein
Graphic & Web Designer
: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :(
On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:43 AM, William Donovan wrote:
Hang on,
did I miss something or is this completely OT (off topic).
Bible's, Gutenberg, print type faces...
Web Standards...?
Nahhh It's all a
On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:43 AM, William Donovan wrote:
Hang on,
did I miss something or is this completely OT (off topic).
Bible's, Gutenberg, print type faces...
Web Standards...?
Nahhh It's all about type faces that are easier to read on the
web and understanding why some are better t
meone who can stick a few words and pics up and not
>> much else.
>>
>> Wel, I for one, relish at the idea of getting my hands on a Gutenburg
>> Bible and reading it… well analysing the lettering and type rather, but hey.
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> From
group.org
[mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of James Jeffery
Sent: 29 January 2009 14:13
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :(
[...]
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Simon Pascal Klein
Graphic & Web Designer
Web: http://klepas.org
E-mai: kle...@klepas.or
The ultimate failure is being offered to do a job initially, only to
inform the customer their plan as written is unworkable from the get go.
They find someone else to build it according to their plan, only to be
approached months down the road to "fix something." It turns out that
others in b
On 30/01/2009, at 2:36 AM, Simon Pascal Klein wrote:
I’d expect clean, accessible, and semantic code from a front-end
developer. Bah—sorry to hear you had such a negative experience. I
think we all end up taking a bite from the sour end of the pie at
some point in our profession, and, in
lse.
>>>
>>
>> Wel, I for one, relish at the idea of getting my hands on a Gutenburg
>> Bible and reading it… well analysing the lettering and type rather, but hey.
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgro
)
>
>
> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
>> Behalf Of James Jeffery
>> Sent: 29 January 2009 14:13
>> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
>> Subject: Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :(
>>
else.
>>
>
> Wel, I for one, relish at the idea of getting my hands on a Gutenburg Bible
> and reading it… well analysing the lettering and type rather, but hey. :-)
>
>
> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
>> Behalf Of James Jeffery
>&g
org] On Behalf Of James Jeffery
Sent: 29 January 2009 14:13
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :(
[...]
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Simon Pascal Klein
Graphic & Web Designer
Web: http://klepas.org
E-mai: kle...@klepas.org
Twitter: @klepas; http://twitter.com/klepas
Kaffee und
for someone who can stick a few words and pics up and not
> much else.
>
>
>
> *From:* li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] *On
> Behalf Of *James Jeffery
> *Sent:* 29 January 2009 14:13
> *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> *Subject:* Re: [WSG] Failed A Job
few words and pics up and not
much else.
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of James Jeffery
Sent: 29 January 2009 14:13
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :(
Indeed. My only problem is I have lost future work from the guy
Indeed. My only problem is I have lost future work from the guy that feeds
me these jobs because I failed it, he isn't even understanding my situation
and he's a front-end developer aswell. I mean 10 hours to do a whole lot of
bug fixing and a near rewite is stupid. Also there was no SV so when I
e
I remember when through GAF I got a on-page SEO job for a website, I
was stupid enough to accept it without first looking at the code, it
came out that it's a table based design with images in the markup used
for layouts etc.
I've done as much as I could, but it was a nightmare.
Like Simon posted
On 29/01/2009, at 11:39 PM, James Jeffery wrote:
Guys thanks for the response. I hit the sac last night at nearly 6am
and was very pissed off, with myself for failing the job. I'm all
good now though because at the end of the day it wasn't really my
doing. The guy that passed me the work d
Guys thanks for the response. I hit the sac last night at nearly 6am and was
very pissed off, with myself for failing the job. I'm all good now though
because at the end of the day it wasn't really my doing. The guy that passed
me the work does front-end development all day, I thought it was strang
The only way out of that was to rewrite the whole lot. I mean the guys
who were on this project were creating empty spans with classes to push
elements along a page (like spacers). They had an empty with a
inside it for the logo they placed in using CSS ... that was only
a part of the issue.
Good point Dennis, plug away.
It's all part of the challenge and there needss to be people leading the
path for others to follow.
Well done for atleast trying for them James.
William Donovan
mobile: 0403 263 284
2009/1/29 Eyemax Studios
> Unfortunate, you as a developer, and the rest of worl
Unfortunate, you as a developer, and the rest of world to have to view
it, and for those original developers as they won't be able to learn
from your wisdom.
I've had similar cases myself, and refused to put my name to those
projects for the same reasons.
It's just the way things are unfortu
Which site?
James Jeffery wrote:
Big company, worldwide infact. A great one for the resume but I failed it.
I was brought in at the end of the project to fix some bugs. Let me
just say that from viewing the source it was majorly flawed! I spent 6
hours on it before handing in the towel right
Big company, worldwide infact. A great one for the resume but I failed it.
I was brought in at the end of the project to fix some bugs. Let me just say
that from viewing the source it was majorly flawed! I spent 6 hours on it
before handing in the towel right near their deadline. The CSS was
unstr
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