I would suggest that "cater to" isn't the most positive terminology
to use with respect to those with disabilities.
it implies some sort of not-really-necessary bending over backwards
and engaging in some huge hassle and great imposition.
if you think of "doing business" as offering a produ
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote:
Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I
design the site as it comes and if some people can't access it -
tough luck. There is no point in spending any additional time or
money in buying specialist tools for people w
On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote:
>
> Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the
> site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is
> no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools
> for peop
On 26.08.2011 17:55, Tedd Sperling wrote:
Accessibility is similar to designing sites for different browsers --
it doesn't take extraordinary effort/cost to consider and implement,
it only takes knowledge and commitment.
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On 26/08/11 5:15 PM, Jay Tanna wrote:
Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the site
as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is no point
in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools for people
who are challenge
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we have a n
we have a new super-hero in our midst, keeping the city safe from people
with disabilities and their nonsense. You'll see him in a costume
pushing in front of disabled people trying to get on a bus and yelling
his catch phrase 'tough luck' as the the door closes. Thanks No Nonsense
Man!
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Ch
On Aug 26, 2011, at 1:15 AM, Jay Tanna wrote:
> Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the
> site as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is
> no point in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools
> for people who
Personally I don't go out of my way to do anything special. I design the site
as it comes and if some people can't access it - tough luck. There is no point
in spending any additional time or money in buying specialist tools for people
who are challenged in some form! Some people on certain
I work with the Yahoo Accessibility Lab. We push our engineers to go beyond
making sure images have alt attributes and truly consider accessibility
usability. This includes making sure sites are keyboard accessible, zoom
friendly, and screen-reader accessible.
ARIA is becoming a larger part of our
RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with
disabilities?
On 8/23/11 10:32 PM, tee wrote:
Then this will do...
body { font-family: sans-serif; }
If you ever do this, I strongly suggest you test it on older Windows System.
tee
Each and everyone of you win. I give-up. I have taken a coil of rope to
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> Then this will do...
> body { font-family: sans-serif; }
>
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If you ever do this, I strongly suggest you test it on older Windows System.
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How to the rest of you a/b people (i.e. able bodied) cater to users with
various forms of disability?
Up until recently, I've tended to rely on kee
On 8/23/11 7:32 PM, Tom Ditmars wrote:
On 2011-08-23 19:12, David Laakso wrote:
It is relevant only if you are one of the few on the planet who are
concerned with typography and see Verdana for what it is at default:
pug-ugly.
While that might be your opinion, it's not necessarily relevant to
On 2011-08-23 19:12, David Laakso wrote:
It is relevant only if you are one of the few on the planet who are
concerned with typography and see Verdana for what it is at default:
pug-ugly.
While that might be your opinion, it's not necessarily relevant to the
topic of this discussion: Usability
On 8/23/11 2:07 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, David Laakso wrote:
On 8/23/11 3:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote:
Mike Kear
http://afpwebworks.com
Setting the fonts at user default
Absolutely!
and ditching Verdana is the first place to start...
Totally irrelevant. The
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, David Laakso wrote:
On 8/23/11 3:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote:
Mike Kear
http://afpwebworks.com
Setting the fonts at user default
Absolutely!
and ditching Verdana is the first place to start...
Totally irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with Verdana; it is only
accessible to people with
> disabilities.
>
>
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On 2011/08/23 16:35 (GMT) Julie Romanowski composed:
Sad, but true, Felix. We know State Farm Bank (among other
sites/applications) has accessibility issues and are working with the
support area to resolve them. Unfortunately, changes like this take time.
Unfortunately, there are people in ev
On 8/23/11 12:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote:
I guess it's going to take another law suit like that one against the
Olympics2000 site to get anyone to take users with special needs seriously
and actually lift a finger to cater to their needs.
What would that "lift a finger" actually consist of?
I'm s
On 8/23/11 3:53 AM, Mike Kear wrote:
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Setting the fonts at user default and ditching Verdana is the first
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Mike, maybe you should have worded your question a little d
On 2011/08/23 15:11 (GMT) Julie Romanowski
composed:
To answer your question - Sticking to standards is not enough.
Accessibility and usability testing are critical. At my company, we have
both an accessibility lab and a usability lab. We have accessibility and
assistive technology (AT) expert
ke applications accessible to people with disabilities.
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How to the rest of you a/b people (i.e. able bodied) cater to users with
various forms of disability?
Up until recently, I've tended to rely on keeping my co
On Aug 18, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Josh Street wrote:
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>
> "Many dyslexics have difficulty with certain fonts or with small print;
> others would prefer to have a colored background to reduce contrast.
Stumbled on this article:
Dyslexie, A Typeface Designed To Help Dyslexics Read
Comment from Pa
Hi Mike,
It's probably worth looking into ARIA [1] and WCAG [2] as two standardised ways
of building and assessing how websites can cater to a broader range of users. I
know that some members of this list also follow the W3C's Web Accessibility
Initiative [3] mailing list, which, between flame
RE: "But now I'm wondering if simply sticking to standards is enough?"
Hi Mike,
Here's what W3C WAI has to say on Involving Users in Web Projects for Better,
Easier Accessibility: http://www.w3.org/WAI/users/involving.html
It is an introduction and links to some More Information and Guidance u
How to the rest of you a/b people (i.e. able bodied) cater to users with
various forms of disability?
Up until recently, I've tended to rely on keeping my code to standards,
eliminating tables except for their proper purpose of tabulating data, and
hoping that will give the accessibility level
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