Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Mac OS X 10.5 read-only support for ZFS

2007-06-17 Thread Richard Elling
Anton B. Rang wrote: Here's one possible reason that a read-only ZFS would be useful: DVD-ROM distribution. built-in compression works for DVDs, too. Sector errors on DVD are not uncommon. Writing a DVD in ZFS format with duplicated data blocks would help protect against that problem, at th

[zfs-discuss] Re: Mac OS X 10.5 read-only support for ZFS

2007-06-17 Thread Anton B. Rang
Here's one possible reason that a read-only ZFS would be useful: DVD-ROM distribution. Sector errors on DVD are not uncommon. Writing a DVD in ZFS format with duplicated data blocks would help protect against that problem, at the cost of 50% or so disk space. That sounds like a lot, but with Bl

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: LZO compression?

2007-06-17 Thread Adam Leventhal
Those are interesting results. Does this mean you've already written lzo support into ZFS? If not, that would be a great next step -- licensing issues can be sorted out later... Adam On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 04:40:48AM -0700, roland wrote: > btw - is there some way to directly compare lzjb vs lzo

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: ZFS Apple WWDC Keynote Absence

2007-06-17 Thread Anton B. Rang
>And the posts related to leopard handed out at wwdc 07 seems to >indicate that zfs is not yet fully implemented, which might be the >real reason that zfs isn't the default fs. I suspect there are two other strong reasons why it's not the default. 1. ZFS is a new and immature file system. HFS+ h

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 01:22:34PM -0700, Darren Dunham wrote: > > The configuration of any vdev that you create does not constrain you > with any vdevs you want to add to the pool in the future. You can start > with any of your three choices above and then add any of the other three > to the sam

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: LZO compression?

2007-06-17 Thread roland
last number (2.99x) is compression ratio and was much better than lzjb. not sure if there is some mistake here, i was quite surprised that it was so much better than lzjb This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Darren Dunham
> After getting a few replies on this, I've realized the following: > > If I have 3 disks in a raidz vdev and I want to add more storage in the > future, I would need add another 3 disk raidz vdev. This is not a constraint that ZFS forces on you. > If I have 4 disks in a raidz2 vdev and I want t

[zfs-discuss] Re: zpool mirror faulted

2007-06-17 Thread Michael Hase
Hi Victor, the kernel panic in bug 6424466 resulted from overwriting some areas of the disks, in this case I would expect at least strange things - ok, not exactly a panic. In my case there was no messsing around with the underlying disks. The fix only seems to avoid the panic and mentions no

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Joe S
I'm going to try 5 disks in raidz2 with 1 hot spare. I read about this here: http://prefetch.net/blog/index.php/2007/02/09/using-raidz2-and-hot-spares-on-older-sun-storage-arrays/ I don't have older disks, but they are consumer grade disks, and I've been bitten by disks going dead before, thus

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Joe S
Ah, so you are the Richard behind those articles I've been mulling over! :-) You blog posts helped me to realize there was much more forethought required when setting up my ZFS pool(s). I'm glad I'm not the only person with this question. Whatever I decide, I will include in this thread. On 6

[zfs-discuss] Re: 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Joe S
After getting a few replies on this, I've realized the following: If I have 3 disks in a raidz vdev and I want to add more storage in the future, I would need add another 3 disk raidz vdev. If I have 4 disks in a raidz2 vdev and I want to add more storage in the future, I would need add another 4

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Richard Elling
Joe S wrote: I'm playing around with ZFS and want to figure out the best use of my 6x 300GB SATA drives. The purpose of the drives is to store all of my data at home (video, photos, music, etc). I'm debating between: 6x 300GB disks in a single raidz2 pool --or-- 2x (3x 300GB disks in a pool)

[zfs-discuss] Re: file server performance - slow 64 bit sparc or fast 32 bit intel

2007-06-17 Thread John-Paul Drawneek
The Pentium 4 D have 64bit in them (ok not the bottom one) So you can have your Pentium 4D running in 64bit mode. Are you buying both kit or do you already have one of these boxes? Also how many users are going to be using this file server? This message posted from opensolaris.org __

[zfs-discuss] Re: 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread John-Paul Drawneek
ok if its just storing stuff raidz2 is probably the best use of space. raidz2 on 5 disk and one spare - this can take 3 disk failing before you lose your data. The three strip mirror will give you nice performance but from the sounds of it you don't need it. This message posted from opensola

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Joe S
My understanding is that if I create a 6 disk raidz2, # zpool create tank raidz2 disk0 disk1 disk2 disk3 disk4 disk5 I cannot add more disks to this set. I cannot expand this. I have to destroy the raidz2 it and recreate it if I want to increase capacity. Whereas with 2 way mirrors, i can just k

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs compression - scale to multiple cpu ?

2007-06-17 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 16 June, 2007 - George sent me these 1,1K bytes: > Where can you find the timeframe on that Tomas? http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6460622 /Tomas -- Tomas Ögren, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.acc.umu.se/~stric/ |- Student at Computing Science, University of Umeå `-

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-17 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Will Murnane wrote: On 6/15/07, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alec Muffett wrote: > 2) I've considered pivot-root solutions based around a USB stick or > drive; cute, but I want a single tower box and no "dongles" You could buy a laptop disk, or mount one of these

[zfs-discuss] Re: 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Marc Bevand
Joe S gmail.com> writes: > > I'm going to create 3x 2-way mirrors. I guess I don't really *need* the > raidz at this point. My biggest concern with raidz is getting locked into > a configuration i can't grow out of. I like the idea of adding more > 2 way mirrors to a pool. The raidz2 option will

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Casper . Dik
>Ok. That helps. I'm trying to wrap my brain around the best way to do this. >I'm going to try to duplicate what you are doing and see how that works out. >I'm going to create 3x 2-way mirrors. I guess I don't really *need* the >raidz at this point. My biggest concern with raidz is getting locked

Re: [zfs-discuss] file server performance - slow 64 bit sparc or fast 32 bit intel

2007-06-17 Thread Daniel Rock
Joe S schrieb: I've read that ZFS runs best on 64 bit solaris. Which box would make the best (fastest) fileserver: Sun v120 650 MHz UltraSPARC IIi 2GB RAM --or-- Intel D875PBZ Intel Pentium D 3.0 GHz (32-bit) 2GB RAM I'd go with the Intel server. If you want to build a pure file server just

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Joe S
Ok. That helps. I'm trying to wrap my brain around the best way to do this. I'm going to try to duplicate what you are doing and see how that works out. I'm going to create 3x 2-way mirrors. I guess I don't really *need* the raidz at this point. My biggest concern with raidz is getting locked into

Re: [zfs-discuss] 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Ian Collins
Joe S wrote: > I'm playing around with ZFS and want to figure out the best use of my > 6x 300GB SATA drives. The purpose of the drives is to store all of my > data at home (video, photos, music, etc). I'm debating between: > > 6x 300GB disks in a single raidz2 pool > > --or-- > > 2x (3x 300GB disks

[zfs-discuss] file server performance - slow 64 bit sparc or fast 32 bit intel

2007-06-17 Thread Joe S
I've read that ZFS runs best on 64 bit solaris. Which box would make the best (fastest) fileserver: Sun v120 650 MHz UltraSPARC IIi 2GB RAM --or-- Intel D875PBZ Intel Pentium D 3.0 GHz (32-bit) 2GB RAM ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensol

[zfs-discuss] 6 disk raidz2 or 3 stripe 2 way mirror

2007-06-17 Thread Joe S
I'm playing around with ZFS and want to figure out the best use of my 6x 300GB SATA drives. The purpose of the drives is to store all of my data at home (video, photos, music, etc). I'm debating between: 6x 300GB disks in a single raidz2 pool --or-- 2x (3x 300GB disks in a pool) mirrored I've