Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Possible with b80 and newest ZFS?

2008-08-21 Thread Orvar Korvar
Thanx for your suggestions. Maybe we can come to a satisfactory conclusion together? I have a freshly installed b95. With new install of b90 or so, everything worked fine. If I wait for OpenSolaris in october, then maybe I can access my ZFS raid? Or should I sell my computer and get an old

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Possible with b80 and newest ZFS?

2008-08-21 Thread Ross
Without more specifics it's hard to suggest more. You say it's a P45 motherboard, which one? Is it on the Solaris HCL? What exact problems are you having when you login with a clean install of b95? You say everything becomes completely unstable, but what exactly do you mean by everything?

[zfs-discuss] filter disk names from a ZPool

2008-08-21 Thread adel gacem
Hi, Is there any easiest way to display only names of disks taking part from a Zpool : zpool status |awk '/c.t./{print $1}' I am wondering if it's enought while disks can be named differently as cXtY ! Thank's for your help. @del. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ARCSTAT Kstat Definitions

2008-08-21 Thread Ben Rockwood
Thanks, not as much as I was hoping for but still extremely helpful. Can you, or others have a look at this: http://cuddletech.com/arc_summary.html This is a PERL script that uses kstats to drum up a report such as the following: System Memory: Physical RAM: 32759 MB Free

Re: [zfs-discuss] CF to SATA adapters for boot device

2008-08-21 Thread Darren J Moffat
Ian Collins wrote: Al Hopper writes: Interesting thread - thanks to all the contributors. I've seen, on several different forums, that many CF users lean towards Sandisk for reliability and longevity. Does anyone else see consensus in terms of CF brands? The people to ask are probably

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Aaron, Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:11:01 PM, you wrote: All, I'm currently working out details on an upgrade from UFS/SDS on DAS to ZFS on a SAN fabric. I'm interested in hearing how ZFS has behaved in more traditional SAN environments using gear that scales vertically like EMC

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Possible with b80 and newest ZFS?

2008-08-21 Thread Orvar Korvar
I dont think the mother board is on the HCL. But everything worked fine in b90. I realize I havent provided all necessary info. Here is more info. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=69654tstart=0 The thing is, Ive upgraded ZFS to the newest version with b95. And b95 is very

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Brian Wilson
- Original Message - From: Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:47 am Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN To: Aaron Blew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Hello Aaron, Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:11:01 PM, you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Possible with b80 and newest ZFS?

2008-08-21 Thread Uwe Dippel
Orvar Korvar wrote: I dont think the mother board is on the HCL. But everything worked fine in b90. I realize I havent provided all necessary info. Here is more info. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=69654tstart=0 The thing is, Ive upgraded ZFS to the newest version

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Possible with b80 and newest ZFS?

2008-08-21 Thread Ross
Yes, I read that thread. The problem is nothing you're describing sounds like a problem with ZFS. You say internet dies suddenly, but what do you mean? Is firefox crashing, are pages just not loading any more? Also, you're still saying Wine dies on startup. That's not a standard part of

Re: [zfs-discuss] ARCSTAT Kstat Definitions

2008-08-21 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 21 August, 2008 - Ben Rockwood sent me these 2,2K bytes: Thanks, not as much as I was hoping for but still extremely helpful. Can you, or others have a look at this: http://cuddletech.com/arc_summary.html This is a PERL script that uses kstats to drum up a report such as the

Re: [zfs-discuss] shrinking a zpool - roadmap

2008-08-21 Thread Mertol Ozyoney
Can ADM ease the pain by migrating data only from one pool to the other. I know it's not what most of you want but... Mertol Ozyoney Storage Practice - Sales Manager Sun Microsystems, TR Istanbul TR Phone +902123352200 Mobile +905339310752 Fax +90212335 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Richard Elling
Brian Wilson wrote: - Original Message - From: Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:47 am Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN To: Aaron Blew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Hello Aaron, Wednesday, August 20,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Gary Mills
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:46:47AM +0100, Robert Milkowski wrote: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 7:11:01 PM, you wrote: I'm currently working out details on an upgrade from UFS/SDS on DAS to ZFS on a SAN fabric. I'm interested in hearing how ZFS has behaved in more

[zfs-discuss] error found while scubbing, how to fix it?

2008-08-21 Thread Luca Morettoni
Hi, this is mi first post in this list! I have OpenSolaris (snv_95) installed into my laptop (single sata disk) and tomorrow I updated my pool with: # zpool -V 11 -a and after I start a scrub into the pool with: # zpool scrub rpool it found this (after 80% of scrubbing done): # zpool status

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Ed Saipetch
That's the one that's been an issue for me and my customers - they get billed back for GB allocated to their servers by the back end arrays. To be more explicit about the 'self-healing properties' - To deal with any fs corruption situation that would traditionally require an fsck on

Re: [zfs-discuss] error found while scubbing, how to fix it?

2008-08-21 Thread Luca Morettoni
On 08/21/08 14:55, Luca Morettoni wrote: Hi, this is mi first post in this list! I have OpenSolaris (snv_95) installed into my laptop (single sata disk) and tomorrow I updated my pool with: # zpool -V 11 -a sorry, the command was: # zpool upgrade -V 11 -a I read that upgrade 11 is about

Re: [zfs-discuss] error found while scubbing, how to fix it?

2008-08-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
I have OpenSolaris (snv_95) installed into my laptop (single sata disk) and tomorrow I updated my pool with: # zpool -V 11 -a and after I start a scrub into the pool with: # zpool scrub rpool # zpool status -vx NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] error found while scubbing, how to fix it?

2008-08-21 Thread Luca Morettoni
On 08/21/08 17:26, Jürgen Keil wrote: Looks like bug 6727872, which is fixed in build 96. http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6727872 that pool contains normal OpenSolaris mountpoints, what do you meen abount umounting and remounting it? I need to do this with a live cd? Thanks and

Re: [zfs-discuss] error found while scubbing, how to fix it?

2008-08-21 Thread Jürgen Keil
On 08/21/08 17:26, Jürgen Keil wrote: Looks like bug 6727872, which is fixed in build 96. http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6727872 that pool contains normal OpenSolaris mountpoints, Did you upgrade the opensolaris installation in the past? AFAIK the opensolaris upgrade

Re: [zfs-discuss] error found while scubbing, how to fix it?

2008-08-21 Thread Luca Morettoni
On 08/21/08 17:45, Jürgen Keil wrote: Did you upgrade the opensolaris installation in the past? sure :) The bug happens with unmounted filesystems, so you need to mount them first, then umount. ok, now all is clear, after I try to make this and scrubbing again... Thanks for the help! --

Re: [zfs-discuss] Help! Possible with b80 and newest ZFS?

2008-08-21 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Orvar Korvar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I dont think the mother board is on the HCL. But everything worked fine in b90. I realize I havent provided all necessary info. Here is more info. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=69654tstart=0 The thing is, Ive upgraded ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] shrinking a zpool - roadmap

2008-08-21 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| The errant command which accidentally adds a vdev could just as easily | be a command which scrambles up or erases all of the data. The difference between a mistaken command that accidentally adds a vdev and the other ways to loose your data with ZFS is that the 'add a vdev' accident is only

[zfs-discuss] ZFS handling of many files

2008-08-21 Thread Brent Jones
Hello, I have been experimenting with ZFS on a test box, preparing to present it to management. One thing I cannot test right now is our real-world application load. We write to CIFS shares currently in small files. We write about 250,000 files a day, in various sizes (1KB to 500MB). Some

Re: [zfs-discuss] ARCSTAT Kstat Definitions

2008-08-21 Thread Ben Rockwood
Its a starting point anyway. The key is to try and draw useful conclusions from the info to answer the torrent of why is my ARC 30GB??? There are several things I'm unclear on whether or not I'm properly interpreting such as: * As you state, the anon pages. Even the comment in code is, to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS handling of many files

2008-08-21 Thread eric kustarz
On Aug 21, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Brent Jones wrote: Hello, I have been experimenting with ZFS on a test box, preparing to present it to management. One thing I cannot test right now is our real-world application load. We write to CIFS shares currently in small files. We write about 250,000

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Vincent Fox
Why would the customer need to use raidz or zfs mirroring if the array is doing it for them? As someone else posted, metadata is already redundant by default and doesn't consume a ton of space. Because arrays drives can suffer silent errors in the data that are not found until too

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS handling of many files

2008-08-21 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, Brent Jones wrote: I have been experimenting with ZFS on a test box, preparing to present it to management. One thing I cannot test right now is our real-world application load. We write to CIFS shares currently in small files. We write about 250,000 files a day, in

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS handling of many files

2008-08-21 Thread Ross
You're the second person to ask a question like this, but I can't for the life of me find the post of the first person who asked. I'm sure somebody was asking about either hundreds of thousands or millions of files in a single directory. It was quite an interesting thread to read. While

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Miles Nordin
vf == Vincent Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vf Because arrays drives can suffer silent errors in the data vf that are not found until too late. My zpool scrubs vf occasionally find FIX errors that none of the array or vf RAID-5 stuff caught. well, just to make it clear again:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ARCSTAT Kstat Definitions

2008-08-21 Thread Ben Rockwood
New version is available (v0.2) : * Fixes divide by zero, * includes tuning from /etc/system in output * if prefetch is disabled I explicitly say so. * Accounts for jacked anon count. Still need improvement here. * Added friendly explanations for MRU/MFU Ghost lists counts. Page and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs, raidz, spare and jbod

2008-08-21 Thread Brian Couper
Hi, One of the thing you could have done to continue the resilver is zpool clear This would have let you continue to replace the drive you pulled out. Once that was done you could have them figured out what was wrong with the second faulty drive. The second drive only had check sum errors, ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Traditional SAN

2008-08-21 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That's the one that's been an issue for me and my customers - they get billed back for GB allocated to their servers by the back end arrays. To be more explicit about the 'self-healing properties' - To deal with any fs corruption situation that would traditionally

[zfs-discuss] Best layout for 15 disks?

2008-08-21 Thread mike
Question #1: I've seen 5-6 disk zpools are the most recommended setup. In traditional RAID terms, I would like to do RAID5 + hot spare (13 disks usable) out of the 15 disks (like raidz2 I suppose). What would make the most sense to setup 15 disks with ~ 13 disks of usable space? This is for a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best layout for 15 disks?

2008-08-21 Thread Will Murnane
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 00:15, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question #1: I've seen 5-6 disk zpools are the most recommended setup. In traditional RAID terms, I would like to do RAID5 + hot spare (13 disks usable) out of the 15 disks (like raidz2 I suppose). What would make the most sense