Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
[no one speaking? want my spam?] Ok, folks, I don't know how open is this now. I turned on some public music, the songs are very healthy today. I guess whatever I say now would be misleading, so, here is a joke. Zhou will always end something with happy - I told some bullshit, not

[zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from zfs send -v snapshot

2009-01-16 Thread Nick Smith
What 'verbose information' is reported by the zfs send -v snapshot contain? Also on Solaris 10u6 I don't get any output at all - is this a bug? Regards, Nick -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create ZPOOL with missing disks?

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Rock
Jim Klimov schrieb: Is it possible to create a (degraded) zpool with placeholders specified instead of actual disks (parity or mirrors)? This is possible in linux mdadm (missing keyword), so I kinda hoped this can be done in Solaris, but didn't manage to. Create sparse files with the size

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from zfs send -v snapshot

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
meh - Original Message - From: Nick Smith nick.sm...@techop.ch To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:28 AM Subject: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from zfs send -v snapshot What 'verbose information' is reported by the zfs send -v snapshot contain?

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Matt Harrison
JZ wrote: Beloved Jonny, I am just like you. There was a day, I was hungry, and went for a job interview for sysadmin. They asked me - what is a protocol? I could not give a definition, and they said, no, not qualified. But they did not ask me about CICS and mainframe. Too bad.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from zfs send -v snapshot

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Kirby
On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Nick Smith wrote: When I use the command 'zfs send -v snapshot-name' I expect to see as the manpage states, some verbose information printed to stderr (probably) but I don't see anything on either Solaris 10u6 or OpenSolaris 2008.11. I am doing something

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
This seems to have worked. But is showing an abnormal amount of data. r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list NAMESIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT ambry 3.62T 132K 3.62T 0% ONLINE - r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry This

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris better Than Solaris10u6 with requards to ARECA Raid Card

2009-01-16 Thread Charles Wright
I tested with zfs_vdev_max_pending=8 I hoped this should make the error messages arcmsr0: too many outstanding commands (257 256) go away but it did not. zfs_vdev_max_pending=8 this should have only allowed 128 commands total to be outstanding I would think (16 Drives * 8 = 128). However

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote: Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant ramblings, need I go on? The ZFS discussion list has produced its first candidate for the rubber room that I

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Volker A. Brandt
JZ wrote: [...] Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant ramblings, need I go on? He probably has nothing better to do. Just ignore him; that's what they dislike most. He will go away eventually.

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list NAMESIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Matt Harrison
Jonny Gerold wrote: Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list NAMESIZE USED

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com wrote: Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
BTW, is there any difference between raidz raidz1 (is the one for one disk parity) or does raidz have a parity disk too? Thanks, Jonny Tim wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com mailto:j...@thermeon.com wrote: Meh this is retarted. It looks like

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com wrote: BTW, is there any difference between raidz raidz1 (is the one for one disk parity) or does raidz have a parity disk too? Thanks, Jonny It depends on who you're talking to I suppose. I would expect generally raidz is

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
That's what I figured. That raidz raidz1 are the same thing. The one is just put there to collect confusion ;) Thanks, Jonny Tim wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com mailto:j...@thermeon.com wrote: BTW, is there any difference between raidz raidz1

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lackluster ZFS performance trials using various ZIL and L2ARC configurations...

2009-01-16 Thread Neil Perrin
I don't believe that iozone does any synchronous calls (fsync/O_DSYNC/O_SYNC), so the ZIL and separate logs (slogs) would be unused. I'd recommend performance testing by configuring filebench to do synchronous writes: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/filebench/ Neil. On 01/15/09

[zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread amy.rich
I've installed an s10u6 machine with no UFS partitions at all. I've created a dataset for zones and one for a zone named default. I then do an lucreate and luactivate and a subsequent boot off the new BE. All of that appears to go just fine (though I've found that I MUST call the zone dataset

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Mark J Musante
Hi Amy, This is a known problem with ZFS and live upgrade. I believe the docs for s10u6 discourage the config you show here. A patch should be ready some time next month with a fix for this. On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, amy.r...@tufts.edu wrote: I've installed an s10u6 machine with no UFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread amy.rich
mmusante This is a known problem with ZFS and live upgrade. I believe the mmusante docs for s10u6 discourage the config you show here. A patch should mmusante be ready some time next month with a fix for this. Do you happen to have a bugid handy? I had done various searches to try and

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Mark J Musante
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, amy.r...@tufts.edu wrote: mmusante This is a known problem with ZFS and live upgrade. I believe the mmusante docs for s10u6 discourage the config you show here. A patch should mmusante be ready some time next month with a fix for this. Do you happen to have a bugid

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Amy, You can review the ZFS/LU/zones issues here: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Troubleshooting_Guide#Live_Upgrade_with_Zones The entire Solaris 10 10/08 UFS to ZFS with zones migration is described here: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5461/zfsboot-1?a=view Let

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread amy.rich
cindy.swearingen http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Troubleshooting_Guide#Live_Upgrade_with_Zones Thanks, Cindy, that was in fact the page I had been originally referencing when I set up my datasets, and it was very helpful. I found it by reading a comp.unix.solaris post in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from zfs send -v snapshot

2009-01-16 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Nick Smith nick.sm...@techop.ch wrote: meh meh You should ignore JZ, he seems to just be trolling the list. -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Pickford
This what I discovered Yo cant have sub directories of the zone root file system that is part of the BE filesystem tree with zfs and lu (no spearate /var etc) zone roots must be on the root pool for lu to work extra file system must be from a none BE zfs file system tree ( I use datasets)

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Elling
Tim wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com mailto:j...@thermeon.com wrote: Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Wes Morgan
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote: Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant ramblings, need I go on? The ZFS discussion list has produced its first

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Wes, I now have a real question. How do you define silly, and artificial intelligence, and script? And halfway inclined to believe to me means 25%. (believe is 100%, inclined is 50%, and halfway is 25% in crystal math, and maybe even less in storage math, including the RAID and HA and DR and

[zfs-discuss] Problem setting quotas on a zfs pool

2009-01-16 Thread Gregory Edwards - Software Support
Solaris 10 5/08 Customer migrated to a new emc array with a snap shot and did a send and receive. He is now trying to set quotas on the zfs file system and getting the following error. [r...@osprey /] # zfs set quota=800g target/u05 cannot set property for 'target/u05': size is less

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem setting quotas on a zfs pool

2009-01-16 Thread Carson Gaspar
Gregory Edwards - Software Support wrote: [r...@osprey /] # zfs set quota=800g target/u05 cannot set property for 'target/u05': size is less than current used or reserved space ... target/u05 1.06T 206G target/u...@1 671G - ... He was able to set them all all

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Rich, This is the best summary I have seen. [china folks say, older ginger more satisfying, true] Just one thing I would like to add - It also depends on the encryption technique and algorism. Today we are doing private key encryption that without the key, you cannot read the data.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem setting quotas on a zfs pool

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Elling
Carson Gaspar wrote: Gregory Edwards - Software Support wrote: [r...@osprey /] # zfs set quota=800g target/u05 cannot set property for 'target/u05': size is less than current used or reserved space ... target/u05 1.06T 206G target/u...@1 671G - ... He was able

[zfs-discuss] Comparison between the S-TEC Zeus and the Intel X25-E ??

2009-01-16 Thread Erik Trimble
I'm looking at the newly-orderable (via Sun) STEC Zeus SSDs, and they're outrageously priced. http://www.stec-inc.com/product/zeusssd.php I just looked at the Intel X25-E series, and they look comparable in performance. At about 20% of the cost.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comparison between the S-TEC Zeus and the Intel X25-E ??

2009-01-16 Thread Adam Leventhal
The Intel part does about a fourth as many synchronous write IOPS at best. Adam On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: I'm looking at the newly-orderable (via Sun) STEC Zeus SSDs, and they're outrageously priced. http://www.stec-inc.com/product/zeusssd.php I just looked at

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
¡Gracias muy, mucho! para amor Respetuoso Best, z ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
BTW, ASANTE MAPENZI :-) Best, z - Original Message - From: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com To: ZFS Discussions zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject) ¡Gracias muy, mucho! para amor Respetuoso Best, z