Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
[no one speaking? want my spam?] Ok, folks, I don't know how open is this now. I turned on some public music, the songs are very healthy today. I guess whatever I say now would be misleading, so, here is a joke. Zhou will always end something with happy - I told some bullshit, not lie,

[zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from "zfs send -v "

2009-01-16 Thread Nick Smith
What 'verbose information' is reported by the "zfs send -v " contain? Also on Solaris 10u6 I don't get any output at all - is this a bug? Regards, Nick -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.or

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create ZPOOL with missing disks?

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel Rock
Jim Klimov schrieb: > Is it possible to create a (degraded) zpool with placeholders specified > instead > of actual disks (parity or mirrors)? This is possible in linux mdadm > ("missing" > keyword), so I kinda hoped this can be done in Solaris, but didn't manage to. Create sparse files with th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from "zfs send -v "

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
meh - Original Message - From: "Nick Smith" To: Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:28 AM Subject: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from "zfs send -v " > What 'verbose information' is reported by the "zfs send -v " > contain? > > Also on Solaris 10u6 I don't get any output at all -

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from "zfs send -v "

2009-01-16 Thread Nick Smith
> meh > meh Anyway I assume that my original post was unclear, so I'll try an correct that. When I use the command 'zfs send -v snapshot-name' I expect to see as the manpage states, some "verbose information" printed to stderr (probably) but I don't see anything on either Solaris 10u6 or O

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Matt Harrison
JZ wrote: > Beloved Jonny, > > I am just like you. > > > There was a day, I was hungry, and went for a job interview for sysadmin. > They asked me - what is a "protocol"? > I could not give a definition, and they said, no, not qualified. > > But they did not ask me about CICS and mainframe. Too

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from "zfs send -v "

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Kirby
On Jan 16, 2009, at 4:47 AM, Nick Smith wrote: > > When I use the command 'zfs send -v snapshot-name' I expect to see > as the manpage states, some "verbose information" printed to stderr > (probably) but I don't see anything on either Solaris 10u6 or > OpenSolaris 2008.11. I am doing somethi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I create ZPOOL with missing disks?

2009-01-16 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: > Usecase scenario: > > I have a single server (or home workstation) with 4 HDD bays, sold with 2 > drives. > Initially the system was set up with a ZFS mirror for data slices. Now we > got 2 > more drives and want to replace the mirror with a la

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
This seems to have worked. But is showing an abnormal amount of data. r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list NAMESIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT ambry 3.62T 132K 3.62T 0% ONLINE - r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry This happen

Re: [zfs-discuss] OpenSolaris better Than Solaris10u6 with requards to ARECA Raid Card

2009-01-16 Thread Charles Wright
I tested with zfs_vdev_max_pending=8 I hoped this should make the error messages arcmsr0: too many outstanding commands (257 > 256) go away but it did not. zfs_vdev_max_pending=8 this should have only allowed 128 commands total to be outstanding I would think (16 Drives * 8 = 128). However

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote: > > Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list > with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant > ramblings, need I go on? The ZFS discussion list has produced its first candidate for the rubber room that I menti

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Volker A. Brandt
> JZ wrote: [...] > Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list > with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant > ramblings, need I go on? He probably has nothing better to do. Just ignore him; that's what they dislike most. He will go away eventually.

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote: > > > > Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list > > with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant > > ramblings, need I

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list NAMESIZE USED AVAILCAP HEALTH ALTROOT am

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Matt Harrison
Jonny Gerold wrote: > Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect > calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? > > r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry > ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry > > r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list > NAMESIZE US

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold wrote: > Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect > calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? > > r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry > ambry 2.7T 27K 2.7T 1% /ambry > > r...@fsk-backup:

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
BTW, is there any difference between raidz & raidz1 (is the one for one disk parity) or does raidz have a parity disk too? Thanks, Jonny Tim wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold > wrote: > > Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list show

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Jonny Gerold wrote: > BTW, is there any difference between raidz & raidz1 (is the one for one > disk parity) or does raidz have a parity disk too? > > Thanks, Jonny > It depends on who you're talking to I suppose. I would expect generally "raidz" is describing

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
That's what I figured. That raidz & raidz1 are the same thing. The one is just put there to collect confusion ;) Thanks, Jonny Tim wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Jonny Gerold > wrote: > > BTW, is there any difference between raidz & raidz1 (is the o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lackluster ZFS performance trials using various ZIL and L2ARC configurations...

2009-01-16 Thread Neil Perrin
I don't believe that iozone does any synchronous calls (fsync/O_DSYNC/O_SYNC), so the ZIL and separate logs (slogs) would be unused. I'd recommend performance testing by configuring filebench to do synchronous writes: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/performance/filebench/ Neil. On 01/15/09

[zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread amy.rich
I've installed an s10u6 machine with no UFS partitions at all. I've created a dataset for zones and one for a zone named "default." I then do an lucreate and luactivate and a subsequent boot off the new BE. All of that appears to go just fine (though I've found that I MUST call the zone dataset

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Mark J Musante
Hi Amy, This is a known problem with ZFS and live upgrade. I believe the docs for s10u6 discourage the config you show here. A patch should be ready some time next month with a fix for this. On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, amy.r...@tufts.edu wrote: > I've installed an s10u6 machine with no UFS partit

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread amy.rich
mmusante> This is a known problem with ZFS and live upgrade. I believe the mmusante> docs for s10u6 discourage the config you show here. A patch should mmusante> be ready some time next month with a fix for this. Do you happen to have a bugid handy? I had done various searches to try and determ

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Mark J Musante
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, amy.r...@tufts.edu wrote: > mmusante> This is a known problem with ZFS and live upgrade. I believe the > mmusante> docs for s10u6 discourage the config you show here. A patch should > mmusante> be ready some time next month with a fix for this. > > Do you happen to have a bu

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Amy, You can review the ZFS/LU/zones issues here: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Troubleshooting_Guide#Live_Upgrade_with_Zones The entire Solaris 10 10/08 UFS to ZFS with zones migration is described here: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-5461/zfsboot-1?a=view Let u

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread amy.rich
cindy.swearingen> http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Troubleshooting_Guide#Live_Upgrade_with_Zones Thanks, Cindy, that was in fact the page I had been originally referencing when I set up my datasets, and it was very helpful. I found it by reading a comp.unix.solaris post in whic

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verbose Information from "zfs send -v "

2009-01-16 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Nick Smith wrote: >> meh >> > meh You should ignore "JZ", he seems to just be trolling the list. -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolar

Re: [zfs-discuss] s10u6 ludelete issues with zones on zfs root

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Pickford
This what I discovered Yo cant have sub directories of the zone root file system that is part of the BE filesystem tree with zfs and lu (no spearate /var etc) zone roots must be on the root pool for lu to work extra file system must be from a none BE zfs file system tree ( I use datasets) [r...@b

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Elling
Tim wrote: > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold > wrote: > > Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect > calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug? > > r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry > ambry

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Wes Morgan
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote: >> >> Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list >> with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant >> ramblings, need I go on? > > The ZFS discussion list has produced

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Wes, I now have a real question. How do you define "silly", and "artificial intelligence", and "script"? And "halfway inclined to believe" to me means 25%. (believe is 100%, inclined is 50%, and halfway is 25% in crystal math, and maybe even less in storage math, including the RAID and HA and

[zfs-discuss] Problem setting quotas on a zfs pool

2009-01-16 Thread Gregory Edwards - Software Support
Solaris 10 5/08 Customer migrated to a new emc array with a snap shot and did a send and receive. He is now trying to set quotas on the zfs file system and getting the following error. [r...@osprey /] # zfs set quota=800g target/u05 cannot set property for 'target/u05': size is less than

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem setting quotas on a zfs pool

2009-01-16 Thread Carson Gaspar
Gregory Edwards - Software Support wrote: > [r...@osprey /] # zfs set quota=800g target/u05 > > cannot set property for 'target/u05': size is less than current used or > reserved space ... > target/u05 1.06T 206G > > target/u...@1 671G - ... > He was able to set them all

Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Rich, This is the best summary I have seen. [china folks say, older ginger more satisfying, true] Just one thing I would like to add - It also depends on the encryption technique and algorism. Today we are doing private key encryption that without the key, you cannot read the data. Som

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem setting quotas on a zfs pool

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Elling
Carson Gaspar wrote: > Gregory Edwards - Software Support wrote: > >> [r...@osprey /] # zfs set quota=800g target/u05 >> >> cannot set property for 'target/u05': size is less than current used or >> reserved space > ... >> target/u05 1.06T 206G >> >> target/u...@1 671G - >

[zfs-discuss] Comparison between the S-TEC Zeus and the Intel X25-E ??

2009-01-16 Thread Erik Trimble
I'm looking at the newly-orderable (via Sun) STEC Zeus SSDs, and they're outrageously priced. http://www.stec-inc.com/product/zeusssd.php I just looked at the Intel X25-E series, and they look comparable in performance. At about 20% of the cost. http://www.intel.com/design/flash/nand/extreme/

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comparison between the S-TEC Zeus and the Intel X25-E ??

2009-01-16 Thread Adam Leventhal
The Intel part does about a fourth as many synchronous write IOPS at best. Adam On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: > I'm looking at the newly-orderable (via Sun) STEC Zeus SSDs, and > they're > outrageously priced. > > http://www.stec-inc.com/product/zeusssd.php > > I just look

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
¡Gracias muy, mucho! para amor Respetuoso Best, z ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject)

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
BTW, ASANTE MAPENZI :-) Best, z - Original Message - From: "JZ" To: "ZFS Discussions" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] (no subject) ¡Gracias muy, mucho! para amor Respetuoso Best, z ___ zfs-discu