On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:01:39PM +0100, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
> On 02/26/2013 05:57 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 06:51:08AM -0800, Gary Driggs wrote:
> >> On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:44 AM, "Sašo Kiselkov" wrote:
> >>
> >> I&#
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On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 06:57:44PM -, Robert Milkowski wrote:
>
> > Personally, I'd recommend putting a standard Solaris fdisk
> > partition on the drive and creating the two slices under that.
>
> Why? In most cases giving zfs an entire disk is the best option.
> I wouldn't bother with a
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:21:33PM -0600, Phillip Wagstrom wrote:
> Eugen,
Thanks Phillip and others, most illuminating (pun intended).
> Be aware that p0 corresponds to the entire disk, regardless of how it
> is partitioned with fdisk. The fdisk partitions are 1 - 4. By using p0 for
>
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:44:54PM -0600, Phillip Wagstrom wrote:
>
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:21:33PM -0600, Phillip Wagstrom wrote:
> >> Eugen,
> >>
> >>Be aware that p0 corresponds to the
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 03:21:33PM -0600, Phillip Wagstrom wrote:
> Eugen,
>
> Be aware that p0 corresponds to the entire disk, regardless of how it
> is partitioned with fdisk. The fdisk partitions are 1 - 4. By using p0 for
> log and p1 for cache, you could very well be writing to same
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 12:44:26PM -0800, Richard Elling wrote:
>
> On Jan 3, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 06:02:40PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> >>
> >> Happy $holidays,
> >>
> >> I have a
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 06:02:40PM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> Happy $holidays,
>
> I have a pool of 8x ST31000340AS on an LSI 8-port adapter as
Just a little update on the home NAS project.
I've set the pool sync to disabled, and added a couple
of
8. c4t1d0
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 10:40:39AM -0800, Richard Elling wrote:
> On Dec 30, 2012, at 9:02 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > The system is a MSI E350DM-E33 with 8 GByte PC1333 DDR3
> > memory, no ECC. All the systems have Intel NICs with mtu 9000
> > enabled, including all
Happy $holidays,
I have a pool of 8x ST31000340AS on an LSI 8-port adapter as
a raidz3 (no compression nor dedup) with reasonable bonnie++
1.03 values, e.g. 145 MByte/s Seq-Write @ 48% CPU and 291 MByte/s
Seq-Read @ 53% CPU. It scrubs with 230+ MByte/s with reasonable
system load. No hybrid po
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:07:17AM +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 06:28:17PM -0500, Peter Tripp wrote:
> > HI Eugen,
> >
> > Whether it's compatible entirely depends on the chipset of the SATA
> > controller.
>
> This is what I was tryi
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 03:38:07AM -0800, Gary Driggs wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2012, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> > Either way I'll know the hardware support situation soon
> > enough.
>
> Have you tried contacting Sonnet?
No, but I did some digging. It *might* be a Marvell
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 06:28:17PM -0500, Peter Tripp wrote:
> HI Eugen,
>
> Whether it's compatible entirely depends on the chipset of the SATA
> controller.
This is what I was trying to find out. I guess I just have to
test it empirically.
> Basically that card is just a dual port 6gbps PCI
Anyone here using http://www.sonnettech.com/product/tempossd.html
with a zfs-capable OS? Is e.g. OpenIndiana supported?
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On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:12:43PM +, Edward Ned Harvey
(opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote:
> > From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Eugen Leitl
> >
> > can I make e.g. LSI SAS3442E
> &g
Dear internets,
I've got an old SunFire X2100M2 with 6-8 GBytes ECC RAM, which
I wanted to put into use with Linux, using the Linux
VServer patch (an analogon to zones), and 2x 2 TByte
nearline (WD RE4) drives. It occured to me that the
1U case had enough space to add some SSDs (e.g.
2-4 80 GByt
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 08:31:23AM -0700, Jan Owoc wrote:
> HI Eugen,
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > Secondly, has anyone managed to run OpenIndiana on an AMD E-350
> > (MSI E350DM-E33)? If it doesn't work, my only options woul
Hi,
after a flaky 8-drive Linux RAID10 just shredded about 2 TByte worth
of my data at home (conveniently just before I could make
a backup) I've decided to both go full redundancy as well as
all zfs at home.
A couple questions: is there a way to make WD20EFRX (2 TByte, 4k
sectors) and WD200FYPS
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 04:57:21AM +, Edward Ned Harvey
(opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote:
> Yes you can, with the help of Dell, install OMSA to get the web interface
> to manage the PERC. But it's a pain, and there is no equivalent option for
> most HBA's. Specifcally, on my syst
On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 01:33:41PM +0100, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
> On 11/07/2012 01:16 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > I'm very interested, as I'm currently working on an all-in-one with
> > ESXi (using N40L for prototype and zfs send target, and a Supermicro
> > ESXi box
On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 12:58:04PM +0100, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
> On 11/07/2012 12:39 PM, Tiernan OToole wrote:
> > Morning all...
> >
> > I have a Dedicated server in a data center in Germany, and it has 2 3TB
> > drives, but only software RAID. I have got them to install VMWare ESXi and
> > so fa
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Hi,
I would like to give a short talk at my organisation in order
to sell them on zfs in general, and on zfs-all-in-one and
zfs as remote backup (zfs send).
Does anyone have a short set of presentation slides or maybe
a short video I could pillage for that purpose? Thanks.
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2x mirror for L2ARC and 2x mirror for ZIL? Some other configuration?
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I'm currently thinking about rolling a variant of
http://www.napp-it.org/napp-it/all-in-one/index_en.html
with remote backup (via snapshot and send) to 2-3
other (HP N40L-based) zfs boxes for production in
our organisation. The systems themselves would
be either Dell or Supermicro (latter with Z
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 08:39:55PM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
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> unwritten data on power failure. In Intel-speak, this is called
> "Enhanced Power Loss Data Protection". I am not running across any
> Intel SSDs which cl
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> charge the SW/socket and not change by storage capacity
> Nexenta Enterprise platform charge U $$ for raw capacity
I'm currently using NexentaCore which is EOL. It seems
my choices are either OpenIndiana or Illumian, which seem
to be very closely related.
> On 7/11/2012 7:51 A
As a napp-it user who recently needs to upgrade from NexentaCore I recently saw
"preferred for OpenIndiana live but running under Illumian, NexentaCore and
Solaris 11 (Express)"
as a system recommendation for napp-it.
I wonder about the future of OpenIndiana and Illumian, which
fork is likely t
Sorry for an off-topic question, but anyone knows how to make
network configuration (done with ifconfig/route add) sticky in
nexenta core/napp-it?
After reboot system reverts to 0.0.0.0 and doesn't listen
to /etc/defaultrouter
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the 320.
Works fine over here (Nexenta Core 3.1).
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On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 07:19:56PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> Upgrading to hacked N36L BIOS seems to have done the trick:
>
> eugen@nexenta:~$ zpool status tank
> pool: tank
> state: ONLINE
> scan: none requested
> config:
>
> NAMESTATE R
; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18)
Gecko/20110621 Red Hat/3.1.11-2.el6_1 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11
On 08/06/2011 09:30 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 21:40 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> I've recently figured out how to make low-end hardware (e.g. HP N36L)
>&
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On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 21:40 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> I've recently figured out how to make low-end hardware (e.g. HP N36L)
> work well as zfs hybrid pools. The system (Nexenta Core + napp-it)
> exports the zfs pools as CIFS, NFS or iSCSI (Comstar).
>
>
0 0
errors: No known data errors
Anecdotally, the drive noise and system load have gone
down as well. It seems even with small SSDs hybrid pools
are definitely worthwhile.
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 10:43:02AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
> I think I've found the source of my problem
good results. The main one being no emails from
Nexenta informing you that the syspool has moved to a degraded state when it
actually hasn’t :)
...
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:05:07AM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:58:47PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 04,
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:58:47PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 02:43:30PM -0700, Larry Liu wrote:
> >
> >> root@nexenta:/export/home/eugen# zpool add tank log /dev/dsk/c3d1p0
> >
> > You should use c3d1s0 here.
> >
> >> Th
&g
c3d1s1ONLINE 0 0 0
errors: No known data errors
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ices/pci@0,0/pci-ide@14,1/ide@0/cmdk@1,0:g
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 51 Aug 5 00:45 /dev/dsk/c3d1s8 ->
../../devices/pci@0,0/pci-ide@14,1/ide@0/cmdk@1,0:i
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 51 Aug 5 00:45 /dev/dsk/c3d1s9 ->
../../devices/pci@0,0/pci-ide@14,1/ide@0/cmdk@1,0:j
It's probably someth
or a dedicated machine
or virtual guest.
The appliance will host some 600+ k small (few MBytes) files.
Does zfs need any special tuning for this case?
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them, of course, but that's what the internal
USB and external eSATA ports are good for.
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On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:56:38PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
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> apt-get update
> apt-clone upgrade
>
> Any first impressions?
I finally came around installing NexentaCore 3.1 along with
napp-it and AMP on a HP N36L with 8 GBytes RAM. I'm testing
it with 4x 1 and 1.5 TByte
apt-get update
apt-clone upgrade
Any first impressions?
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Seem to be real 512 Byte sectors, too.
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> stripped) but writes top out at about 10 and drop a lot lower... If I where
> to add a couple usb keys for zil, would it make a difference?
Speaking of which, is there a point in using an eSATA flash stick?
If yes, which?
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Anyone running a Crucial CT064M4SSD2? Any good, or should
I try getting a RealSSD C300, as long as these are still
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l have to try the HP N36L
setup to see what the CPU load with either raidz2 or mirrored
pools will be.
> This is purely my speculation, but now that I thought about it, can't get
> rid of the idea ;) ...
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once a week, that'd probably suck on raidz2, too?
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AMD Neo, should I do the same? Or should I even not bother with compression?
The data set is a lot of scanned documents, already compressed (TIF and PDF).
I presume the incidence of identical blocks will be very low under such
circumstances.
Oh, and with 4x 3 TByte SATA mirrored pool is pretty mu
al USB or the 4x SATA).
Known problem? Should I go to stable, or try NexentaStor instead?
(I'd rather keep options open with Nexenta Core and napp-it).
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screwed up the support site from Sun. I figured someone
here would know how to obtain
Sun Fire X2100 M2 Server Software 1.8.0 Image contents:
* BIOS is version 3A21
* SP is updated to version 3.24 (ELOM)
* Chipset driver is updat
nd throw
> away the desktop dock than it is to buy a WD EARS drive. Consider it a
> fancy anti-shock packaging.
What about Hitachi HDS723030ALA640 (aka Deskstar 7K3000, claimed
24/7)?
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people want to have scalable in ~30 TByte increments solution,
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> attach ZFS storage to vmware.
>
>
>
> What are people using, as interconnect, to use ZFS storage on ESX(i)?
Why do you think 10 GBit Ethernet is expensive? An Intel NIC is 200 EUR,
and a crossover cable is enough. No need f
l this is an excellent platform to build a NAS on.
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> 1 Mangy-Cours CPU
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> close to its competitors.
Yeah, no more Sun hardware for us, either. Mostly Supermicro,
Dell, HP.
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>> is a half-height PCIe x16 and a x1 slot as well.
>
> Somebody has already bought this microserver? :)
Not yet, though I'm thinking about putting those new 4x 3 TByte SATA
disks into it. Resilver times in raidz3 will be a nightmare,
though.
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Anyone had any look getting either OpenSolaris or FreeBSD with
zfs working on
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF06b/15351-15351-4237916-4237917-4237917-4248009-4248034.html
?
The Neo has a lot more oomph than the Atoms, and the box can
handle up to 8 GByte ECC memory.
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FreeBSD 8.1 arrives
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ly do. What sort of traffic do you
> expect?
Thanks for the thumbs-up. Just local GBit LAN. If it does
~20-40 MByte/s it should be quite enough.
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How badly would a dual-core 1.6 GHz Atom with 4 GBytes RAM
be underpowered for serving 4-6 SATA drives? What kind of
transfer speed (GBit Ethernet, Intel NICs) can I expect with
raidz2 or raidz3?
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re out out to lunch if
it hits it ;p
However, in a whole series of anecdotes I've done quite well ditching
Dells and Suns and HPs for Supermicro, and sourcing disks (and sometimes
memory) from the likes of TechData and IngramMicro. No doubt, others have
very different stories to tell.
-
umber of disks into it, and
can't source the diskless caddies elsewhere?
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suddenly die out me, out of a sample size of maybe 20.
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on my hands) I'm quite leery. Maybe the SAS Seagates are better.
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s to be addressed, but it already is
labeled as production ready.
Dtrace on FreeBSD also works great. I believe it doesn’t have all the probes
Solaris has yet, but it performs great anyways.
Personally, I would recommend you to test both systems. Maybe you will find
some comparative benchmarks in Phor
ave never seen the source
nor am I a developer), such crucial features are nontrivial to backport because
FreeBSD doesn't practice layer separation. Inasmuch this is still true
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> that have either battery backup or external power.
>
> But this seems like a good solution if someone has the space.
It doesn't do ECC memory though, which is a real pity.
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multiple
cores? How much disks (assuming 100 MByte/s throughput for each)
would be considered pushing it for a current single-socket quadcore?
> Are compression, sha256 checksums, or deduplication enabled for the
> filesystem you are using?
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scenario, what would be the best candidate for a fork? Nexenta?
Debian already included FreeBSD as a kernel flavor into its
fold, it seems Nexenta could be also a good candidate.
Maybe anyone in the know could provide a short blurb on what
the state is, and what the options are.
It's pretty
> reasonable priced (~230 EUR) and stacked with 4GB or 8GB DDR2-ECC should
> be more than sufficient.
Wouldn't it be better investing these 300-350 EUR into 16 GByte or more of
system memory, and a cheap UPS?
> http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/07042003/hardware.htm
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pmp,
> you could use a similar chassis for a zfs pool.
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robable,
and leaves me with with just the options of NexentaStor, OpenSolaris or
FreeBSD at command line level, or a random Linux NAS with btrfs
(when it will go production eventually, if ever).
Not a happy day.
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oping FreeBSD 8.0 which is just out and claims zfs ready for
production will do better.
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working
again (BR 2782729).
* Editing existing config items in WebGUI will display incorrect data (e.g.
'System|Advanced|rc.conf' or 'System|Advanced|sysctl.conf') (BR 2792956).
* Fix bug in WebGUI which is caused by unhandled special HTML characters
used in
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> There's also FreeBSD, which also has ZFS and has been scaling up its
FreeNAS 0.7 final with zfs will be out Any Day Now. It may lag behind
OpenSolaris, but it is usable.
> support for embedded platforms (MIPS, ARM, PowerPC) recently. Not sure of
> the porting progress of OpenSol
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 01:40:12PM +0800, "C. Bergström" wrote:
> >So use Nexenta?
> Got data you care about?
>
> Verify extensively before you jump to that ship.. :)
So you're saying Nexenta have been known to drop bits on
the floor, unprovoked? Inquiring m
the big problem - how to do the expansion in stages, while keeping the
> pool active. At this point, the only way I can get it to work is to
> offline (ie export) the whole pool, and then pray that nothing
> interrupts the expansion process.
Anyone knows how Drobo does it
such a bay rack for years, and it survived one big tower,
and is now dwelling in a cheap Sharkoon case. The fan is a bit noisy,
but then, the server is behind a couple of doors, and serves the
house LAN. It's currently running Linux, but has already a FreeNAS
on an IDE DOM preinstalled.
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Somewhat hairy, but interesting. FYI.
https://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/freenas/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=1902
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server room, where such
systems belongs.
The only way to deal with that is watercooling, or operating the thing
out of your earshot (cellar, etc).
There are large enclosures with large, slow-moving fans which are
suitable for the living room, but I doubt you can miss 16-24 drives
in action.
, where a downtime of days or weeks is not critical.
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-community-recommended configuration to use.
>
> Any takers?
I'm willing to contribute (zfs on Opensolaris, mostly Supermicro
boxes and FreeNAS (FreeBSD 7.2, next 8.x probably)). Is there a
wiki for that somewhere?
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is very helpful, but it doesn't offer concrete layout examples for
odd number of disks (understandable, since Sun has to sell the
Thumper), and is pretty mum on raidz3.
Thank you. This list is fun, and he
y a Thumper), and maybe
include raidz3 into the number crunch?
Thanks!
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out the pools for above workload, assuming 24 SATA
drives/chassis (24-48 TBytes raw storage), and 80 GByte SSD each for ZIL/L2ARC
(is that too little? Would 160 GByte work better?)
Thanks lots.
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is a hybrid application (application in
Solaris containers accessing zfs pool on the same machine)
I realize ECC is very important.
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f, but even the AMD boards work well.
Yes, dual-socket quadcore Xeon.
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