Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-14 Thread bob netherton
On 12/14/12 10:07 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: Is that right? You can't use zfs send | zfs receive to send from a newer version and receive on an older version? No. You can, with recv, override any property in the sending stream that can be set from

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Netherton
That is a touch misleading. This has always been the case since S10u2. You have to create the pool AND the file systems at the oldest versions you want to support. I maintain a table of pool and version numbers on my blog (blogs.oracle. com/bobn) for this very purpose. I got lazy the

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Netherton
yesterday :) Bob Sent from my iPhone On Dec 13, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bob Netherton bob.nether...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is correct. The last version of Solaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] S11 vs illumos zfs compatiblity

2012-12-13 Thread Bob Netherton
:54 PM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Bob Netherton bob.nether...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that is correct. The last version of Solaris with source code used zpool version 28. This is the last

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs_arc_max values

2012-05-17 Thread Bob Netherton
I'll agree with Bob on this. A specific use case is a VirtualBox server hosting lots of guests. I even made a point of mentioning this tunable in the Solaris 10 Virtualization Essentials section on vbox :) There are several other use cases as well. Bob Bob Sent from my iPad On May 17,

Re: [zfs-discuss] About ZFS compatibility

2009-05-20 Thread bob netherton
zhihui Chen wrote: I have created a pool on external storage with B114. Then I export this pool and import it on another system with B110.But this import will fail and show error: cannot import 'tpool': pool is formatted using a newer ZFS version. Any big change in ZFS with B114 leads to this

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS/zpool Versions in Solaris 10

2009-04-21 Thread bob netherton
since I am trying to keep my pools at a version that different updates can handle, I personally am glad it did not get rev'ed. I did get into trouble recently that SX-CE 112 created a file system on an old pool with a version newer than Solaris 10 likes :( -o is your best friend ;-)

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to increase rpool size in a VM?

2009-03-26 Thread bob netherton
Bob Doolittle wrote: Blake wrote: You need to use 'installgrub' to get the right boot pits in place on your new disk. I did that, but it didn't help. I ran: installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c4t1d0s0 Is it OK to run this before resilvering has completed? You

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

2009-02-28 Thread Bob Netherton
Multiple pools on one server only makes sense if you are going to have different RAS for each pool for business reasons. It's a lot easier to have a single pool though. I recommend it. A couple of other things to consider to go with that recommendation. - never build a pool larger than you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Virutal zfs server vs hardware zfs server

2009-02-27 Thread Bob Netherton
Bob is right. Less chance of failure perhaps but also less protection. I don't like it when my storage lies to me :) Bob Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, Blake wrote: SinceZFS is trying to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Noob: Best way to replace a disk when you're out of internal connectors?

2008-12-30 Thread Bob Netherton
I am a bit slow today. It seems like a dying drive should be replaced ASAP. Completely agree with Bob on this. I drive an 8.000lb truck and the tires have industrial strength runflats. If I get a puncture or tear in a tire I replace it as soon as I can, not when it is convenient. The

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpol mirror creation after non-mirrored zpool is setup

2008-12-14 Thread Bob Netherton
Jeff Bonwick wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 04:44:10PM -0800, Mark Dornfeld wrote: I have installed Solaris 10 on a ZFS filesystem that is not mirrored. Since I have an identical disk in the machine, I'd like to add that disk to the existing pool as a mirror. Can this be done, and if so,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS fragmentation with MySQL databases

2008-11-23 Thread Bob Netherton
This argument can be proven by basic statistics without need to resort to actual testing. Mathematical proof reality of how things end up getting used. Luckily, most data access is not completely random in nature. Which was my point exactly. I've never seen a purely mathematical model

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS fragmentation with MySQL databases

2008-11-22 Thread Bob Netherton
In other words, for random access across a working set larger (by say X%) than the SSD-backed L2 ARC, the cache is useless. This should asymptotically approach truth as X grows and experience shows that X=200% is where it's about 99% true. Ummm, before we throw around phrases like

Re: [zfs-discuss] copies set to greater than 1

2008-11-06 Thread Bob Netherton
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:54 -0500, Krzys wrote: WHen property value copies is set to value greater than 1 how does it work? Will it store second copy of data on different disk? or does it store it on the same disk? Also when this setting is changed at some point on file system, will it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Shared ZFS in Multi-boot?

2008-08-07 Thread Bob Netherton
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:16 -0700, Daniel Templeton wrote: Is there a way that I can add the disk to a ZFS pool and have the ZFS pool accessible to all of the OS instances? I poked through the docs and searched around a bit, but I couldn't find anything on the topic. Yes. I do that all of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Checksum error: which of my files have failed scrubbing?

2008-08-05 Thread Bob Netherton
soren wrote: ZFS has detected that my root filesystem has a small number of errors. Is there a way to tell which specific files have been corrupted? After a scrub a zpool status -v should give you a list of files with unrecoverable errors. Bob

Re: [zfs-discuss] help me....

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Netherton
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:46 -0700, Rahul wrote: hi can you give some disadvantages of the ZFS file system?? In what context ? Relative to what ? Bob ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I trust ZFS?

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Netherton
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 13:25 -0700, Ross wrote: Hey folks, I guess this is an odd question to be asking here, but I could do with some feedback from anybody who's actually using ZFS in anger. ZFS in anger ? That's an interesting way of putting it :-) but I have some real concerns about

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I trust ZFS?

2008-07-31 Thread Bob Netherton
We haven't had any real life drive failures at work, but at home I took some old flaky IDE drives and put them in a pentium 3 box running Nevada. Similar story here. Some IDE and SATA drive burps under Linux (and please don't tell me how wonderful Reiser4 is - 'cause it's banned in this

Re: [zfs-discuss] SXCE build 90 vs S10U6?

2008-06-13 Thread Bob Netherton
I want to start testing out ZFS boot and zfs allow to minimize the delay between the release of U6 and my production deployment. Good observation. I mention this in every Solaris briefing that I do. Get some stick time with this capability using SXCE or OpenSolaris so that you can reduce

[zfs-discuss] zfs mount fails - directory not empty

2008-03-08 Thread Bob Netherton
Multi-boot system (s10u3, s10u4, and nevada84) having problems mounting ZFS filesystems at boot time. The pool is s10u3 are are most of the filesystems. A few of the filesystems are nevada83. # zfs mount -a cannot mount '/pandora': directory is not empty # zfs list -o name,mountpoint NAME

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: How does ZFS write data to disks?

2007-05-11 Thread Bob Netherton
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 09:00 -0700, lonny wrote: I've noticed a similar behavior in my writes. ZFS seems to write in bursts of around 5 seconds. I assume it's just something to do with caching? Yep - the ZFS equivalent of fsflush. Runs more often so the pipes don't get as clogged. We've had