Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Mattias, Saturday, November 15, 2008, 12:24:05 AM, you wrote: MP On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 00:46, Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Leventhal wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:48:25PM +0100, Mattias Pantzare wrote: That is _not_ active-active, that is active-passive. If

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-16 Thread Mertol Özyöney
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mattias Pantzare Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:48 PM To: David Pacheco Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication I think you're confusing our clustering feature with the remote replication feature. With active

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-14 Thread David Pacheco
Brent Jones wrote: *snip* a 'zfs send' on the sending host monitors the pool/filesystem for changes, and immediately sends them to the receiving host, which applies the change to the remote pool. This is asynchronous, and isn't really different from running zfs send/recv in a loop. Whether

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-14 Thread Mattias Pantzare
I think you're confusing our clustering feature with the remote replication feature. With active-active clustering, you have two closely linked head nodes serving files from different zpools using JBODs connected to both head nodes. When one fails, the other imports the failed node's pool and

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-14 Thread Adam Leventhal
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:48:25PM +0100, Mattias Pantzare wrote: That is _not_ active-active, that is active-passive. If you have a active-active system I can access the same data via both controllers at the same time. I can't if it works like you just described. You can't call it

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-14 Thread Richard Elling
Adam Leventhal wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:48:25PM +0100, Mattias Pantzare wrote: That is _not_ active-active, that is active-passive. If you have a active-active system I can access the same data via both controllers at the same time. I can't if it works like you just described.

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-14 Thread Mattias Pantzare
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 00:46, Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Leventhal wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:48:25PM +0100, Mattias Pantzare wrote: That is _not_ active-active, that is active-passive. If you have a active-active system I can access the same data via both

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-13 Thread Miles Nordin
rt == River Tarnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: rt currently i crontab zfs send | zfs recv for this doesn't it also fall over if the stream falls behind? I mean, what if it takes longer than ten minutes? What if the backup node goes away and then comes back? What if the master node panics

[zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-12 Thread River Tarnell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, are there any RFEs or plans to create a 'continuous' replication mode for ZFS? i envisage it working something like this: a 'zfs send' on the sending host monitors the pool/filesystem for changes, and immediately sends them to the receiving host,

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-12 Thread Ian Collins
On Thu 13/11/08 12:04 , River Tarnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: are there any RFEs or plans to create a 'continuous' replication mode for ZFS?i envisage it working something like this: a 'zfs send' on the sending hostmonitors the pool/filesystem for changes, and immediately sends them to

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-12 Thread Daryl Doami
of the specifics of how, but it might provide ideas of how it can be accomplished. Regards. Original Message Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication From: Brent Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED], zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Date: Wed Nov 12 16:46:37 2008

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-12 Thread River Tarnell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brent Jones: It sounds like you need either a true clustering file system or to draw back your plans to see changes read-only instantly on the secondary node. well, the idea is to have two separate copies of the data, for backup / DR. being able to

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-12 Thread River Tarnell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daryl Doami: As an aside, replication has been implemented as part of the new Storage 7000 family. Here's a link to a blog discussing using the 7000 Simulator running in two separate VMs and replicating w/ each other: that's interesting,

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-12 Thread Brent Jones
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:58 PM, River Tarnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daryl Doami: As an aside, replication has been implemented as part of the new Storage 7000 family. Here's a link to a blog discussing using the 7000 Simulator running in