[Zope] Zope MailTemplates

2006-01-17 Thread Erik Myllymaki
I haven't delved too deeply here, but I think Zope MailTemplates are wrapping any subject longer than 70 characters. Is there any way to turn this feature off? ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope **

[Zope] zope unresponsive

2006-04-24 Thread Andy Altepeter
Hey All, I'm experiencing hanging issues with my Zope-2.8.6+zeo setup/ RHEL 4. The hanging isn't categorized by 100% cpu usage. Actually, I had the same issues using 2.8.5, but I've upgraded since then. Here's the situation: I have one zeo client connected to a zeo se

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.8.9, Zope 2.9.7, Zope 2.10.3 released

2007-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 26. März 2007 20:29:21 + Maurits van Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung, on 2007-03-26: I uploaded corrected versions of the Zope 2.9.7 and 2.10.3 tar-balls. The tar-balls released yesterday contained a bug that caused a startup failure when using "zo

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.8.9, Zope 2.9.7, Zope 2.10.3 released

2007-03-26 Thread Martijn Pieters
coratorName(methodName) That's how the postonly decorator is applied in 2.8 and in the Hotfix, and the REQUEST parameter is still required. I fixed this in the 2.8 branch as well last night. -- Martijn Pieters ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope 2.8.9, Zope 2.9.7, Zope 2.10.3 released

2007-03-26 Thread Andreas Jung
ight. I did not notice that the decorator emulation moved *of course* after the method...blame it on the summer time or the late night :-) Andreas pgpy9ZmWdMQXE.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/ma

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] [Zope-Annce] Announcing: Zope 4.0 project

2009-04-01 Thread Chris Withers
*looks at the date* *sigh* I'll go back to my cave now... Chris Chris Withers wrote: > Tres Seaver wrote: >> On behalf of the Zope community, I am pleased to announce the creation >> of the "Zope 4.0" project. After extensive discussion with the Zope >> wi

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Wolfgang Strobl
it from: www.zope.org. -- Wolfgang Strobl ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Michel Pelletier
t; > But what is the meaning of This is the one to print out and give to > your friends as christmas gifts, folks, so get crackin and start > reading at." in the announcement? That was a joke. Sorry. -Michel ___ Zope maillist - [EMAI

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Wolfgang Strobl
ing your book. To the contrary; I tend to beleive that having a properly indexed and tightly integrated online format might even might help selling the book. For example; I have HTML help versions _and_ printed copies of the - outdated - Zope docs, and one of each from the actual howto-collect

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Phil Harris
l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Amos Latteier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta | On 31 Oct 2000, at 12

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Dennis Nichols
At 10/31/00 11:08 PM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: >For example; I have HTML help versions _and_ printed copies of >the - outdated - Zope docs, and one of each from the actual >howto-collection, and I'm using them both. Wolfgang - How about putting up your HTML help version of the ho

Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-book] Re: [Zope] Zope Book Beta

2000-10-31 Thread Jeff Hoffman
704.849.0731 x108 Chief Technology Officer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Going Virtual, L.L.C. http://www.goingv.com/ ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cro

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 and Zope 3

2007-02-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14 Feb 2007, at 22:18, Geoff Gerrietts wrote: 1. Last time I talked to anyone from Zope Corp, the plan was to quiesce Zope 2 in favor of Zope 3. At that time, I think I remember people saying 2.9 would be the last in the Zope 2 series. Now

[Zope] Re: Zope 2 and Zope 3

2007-02-14 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Geoff Gerrietts wrote: I have a couple questions about the current game plan for Zope development that I was unable to answer for myself by searching through mailing list archives and the zope.org <http://zope.org> website. I hope my inability to answer them is not merely a symptom o

[Zope] Re: Zope 2 and Zope 3

2007-02-14 Thread Geoff Gerrietts
On 2/14/07, Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There will definitely be a Zope 2.11 and at this point I see no reason why there shouldn't be a Zope 2.12. We (the Zope Community, not necessarily Zope Corporation) will maintain Zope 2 as long as it's necessary.

Re: [Zope] Zope 2 and Zope 3

2007-02-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. Februar 2007 13:18:10 -0800 Geoff Gerrietts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1. Last time I talked to anyone from Zope Corp, the plan was to quiesce Zope Zope is a community project, not a Zope Corp. project. The influence of ZC on the Zope development process is limited. 2 in

[Zope] Re: Zope 2 and Zope 3

2007-02-15 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
I suspect that any dependency on the ZODB at all is likely to be considered an impediment, and my quick eyeballing says it's not gone or even really optional under Zope 3 (but I'm sure we could work something out.) The ZODB is still there in Zope 3, but Zope 3 is much less dependent on

Re: [Zope] Frequent Zope crashes (Zope 2.9.8)

2008-02-11 Thread Chris Withers
Hi Paul, It's certainly worth filing a bug over in launchpad about this. I wonder if this is 64-bit related? cheers, Chris Paul Brettschneider wrote: Hello, my Zope 2.9.8 instance crashes up to 6 times per hour. This is very unfortunate since the constant restarting brings performan

[Zope] Re: Frequent Zope crashes (Zope 2.9.8)

2008-02-11 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Brettschneider wrote: > Hello, > > my Zope 2.9.8 instance crashes up to 6 times per hour. > This is very unfortunate since the constant restarting > brings performance to its knees. > > It runs under Linux in 64 bit m

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-01-31 Thread Benji York
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: > Zope 3.4 requires Python 2.4 or 3.5 to run. /me goes to download Python 3.5. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-02-02 Thread Sebastien Douche
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 15:04, Benji York wrote: > wrote: >> >> - Zope 3.4 Versions: >> http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/3.4.0/versions.cfg > > I had been using http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions.cfg, but that > has gone away. Was I using the wrong thin

Re: [Zope] [Zope-dev] Zope 3.4.0 Released!

2009-02-02 Thread Benji York
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Stephan Richter wrote: > > - Zope 3.4 Versions: > http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/3.4.0/versions.cfg I had been using http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions.cfg, but that has gone away. Was I using the wrong thing? Was the removal of the

Re: [Zope] [Zope-Annce] Zope 2.12.0 released

2009-10-01 Thread Baiju M
Hi Andreas, On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Andreas Jung wrote: > On behalf of the Zope 2 developers community I am pleased to announce > the official release of Zope 2.12.0. Thanks for making the great release and thanks to all contributors. Regards, B

Re: [Zope] [Zope-Annce] Zope 2.12.0 released

2009-10-01 Thread Tres Seaver
Baiju M wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Andreas Jung wrote: >> On behalf of the Zope 2 developers community I am pleased to announce >> the official release of Zope 2.12.0. > > Thanks for making the great release and thanks to all contributors. Amen, here, as wel

[Zope] [Zope-Annce] Announcement: Zope 4.0b6 released

2018-10-11 Thread Michael Howitz
On behalf of Zope developer community I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 4.0b6. This release has a slightly changed installation procedure when using zc.buildout, as bootstrap.py is no longer used. It contains some new features, e.g.: * the ZMI is now styled via Bootstrap * Python 3.7

[Zope] SSL,Zope and Users in Zope

2000-07-07 Thread Michael Arndt
a) what do i have to to to use SSL and Zope ? normaly i use Apache and Zope. Has anyone Apache SSL or mod_ssl and Zope as Platform ? b) User Admin: if i define users i two disjunct Contexts of Zope, can i somehow merge this accounts or does that mean they have to be defined at root context

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with Zope

2000-07-11 Thread R. David Murray
On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Tina Goyne (TT) wrote: > I am a novice Zope user--my web master left my company and I have been > pegged with the responsibility of maintaining our internal website. I am > having a problem adding a new folder and then adding a file to the folder. > The file i

[Zope] RE: [Zope-dev] Problem with Zope

2000-07-12 Thread R. David Murray
hat it opens Adobe Reader indicates that Zope returned some data and indicated the correct mime-type for a PDF file. That makes it sound like the data did indeed get uploaded, otherwise Zope wouldn't have been able to figure out its type (I think). > blank. If I go to the file on the netwo

[Zope] RE: [Zope-dev] Problem with Zope

2000-07-12 Thread R. David Murray
n't heard about problems viewing PDF files from IE. Anyone else seen this? I suppose we should know what version of Zope you are running. --RDM ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross po

[Zope] product docs Re: [Zope] Zope docs ??

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anynoe recommend any documentation on Zope; esp. extending it with Python > methods; besides the ZOpe.org stuff? Beehive has a zclasses tutorial availiable for DM25 at http://www.beehive.de .

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Problem with Zope

2000-07-17 Thread ethan mindlace fremen
"Tina Goyne (TT)" wrote: > > Hi: > > I am a novice Zope user--my web master left my company and I have been > pegged with the responsibility of maintaining our internal website. I am > having a problem adding a new folder and then adding a file to the folder.

RE: [Zope] Zope Sybase DA & Zope 2.2

2000-07-26 Thread Chris McDonough
What's the problem? Does it not work? > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Nosal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:00 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Zope] Zope Sybase DA & Zope 2.2 > > > Folks - > > Anyon

RE: [Zope] Zope Sybase DA & Zope 2.2

2000-07-26 Thread Stephen Nosal
this one. - Steve On Wed, 26 July 2000, Chris McDonough wrote: > > What's the problem? Does it not work? > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Nosal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:00 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTE

[Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] [Zope] App isolation

2000-08-01 Thread Phil Harris
tell you nothing unless you are using an xmlrpcclient to do the looking.hthPhil Harris[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original Message -From: Steve Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Phil Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:45 PMSubject: Re: [Zop

[Zope] AW: [Zope] newbie inquiry about zope

2000-10-24 Thread Patrick Koetter
Phew Aharon, many questions... Did you take a closer look at zope.org? I think many questions are answered within the site. But let's get going... >1) Could Zope help me keep track of who is reading what and match people up for discussion? You could track down people with cookie

[Zope] From Zope 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6

2005-06-22 Thread Tim Suter
I am upgrading our current Zope from 2.5.1 to Zope 2.7.6. I have the new version installed as a different instance on a different server. The Zope 2.5.1 is in tact and what I am wondering is, how do you migrate everything from the older to the newer? I thought exporting the .zexp out of Zope

[Zope] Zope 2.7.8 or Zope 2.8.X

2005-10-13 Thread Dennis Allison
We have been running on Zope 2.7.6 with a few patches. I am now planning to migrate to Zope 2.7.8 but am pondering the move to Zope 2.8. We are in a production situation and cannot accept any downtime, so I am very concerned about stability and compatibility. Can the list provide words of

[Zope] upgraded zope 2.8.1 to zope 2.9.3

2006-06-21 Thread gus
Dear I need upgrade zope 2.8.1 to 2.9.3 ... Could someone help me..? Thanks gustavo ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org

[Zope] Zope at universities?

2006-09-17 Thread Andreas R. Johnsen
Hei, I'm looking for information about the use of Zope at universities. Most large universities have a very heterogeneous infrastructure and I guess many of them utilize Zope in a way or another. I'm looking for references to universities where Zope is part of a central strategi o

[Zope] Zope sat universities?

2006-09-18 Thread Rob Porter
upgrades now). http://help.pop.psu.edu/ To name a few ** Robert Porter Programmer/Analyst email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 814-865-2363 website: http://www.robzone.net/ AIM: robzonenet Andreas R. Johnsen wrote: > Hei, > > I'm looking for information about t

[Zope] Unicode in zope ?

2006-09-21 Thread Luc Van Tien
Anyone know show me tutorial how to user unicode in zope ?Thank you very much . Hãy ghé qua trang chủ Yahoo! Việt Nam!___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope] zope hosting

2006-09-22 Thread Philip Kilner
Hi David, David H wrote: > My understanding is that Zettai is closing down. Bummer cause I have > been using them. > > Just looking for Zope Host recommendations > I've moved to HSR from Zettai, and am very happy. I did the migration myself, as I wanted to do it step b

[Zope] Re: zope hosting

2006-09-23 Thread George Lee
a Zettai account.) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )

[Zope] Zope 2.10.0 released

2006-10-03 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi all, on behalf of Zope developer community I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 2.10.0. You can download Zope 2.10.0 from: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.0/ Some new features of Zope 2.10: - ZPT implementation based on Zope 3 - experimental WSGI and Twisted

Re: [Zope] Upgrading Zope

2006-10-18 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 18. Oktober 2006 14:55:33 +0200 Nightflyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi All, I've been asked to migrate an ancient Zope server from 2.1.x to the latest 2.x or 3.x version. This server only have a couple of applications, both using Z SQL Methods, DHTML methods an

Re: [Zope] Upgrading Zope

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 02:55:33PM +0200, Nightflyer wrote: > Hi All, > I've been asked to migrate an ancient Zope server from 2.1.x to the > latest 2.x or 3.x version. http://zopewiki.org/Upgrading -- Paul Winkler http://

Re: [Zope] Upgrading Zope

2006-10-18 Thread Philip Kilner
Hi, Nightflyer wrote: > I'd like to know if you think that such migration is feasible or if I'll > encounter some problems. > > Do you think it is better to migrate to the latest version of the 2.x or 3.x > branch? > >From 2.1.x to the latest 2.x should be feasib

R: [Zope] Upgrading Zope

2006-10-18 Thread Nightflyer
> Which RDBMS are you using your ZSQL Methods against? MySQL 4.1. Bye, Andrew. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mail

Re: [Zope] Upgrading Zope

2006-10-18 Thread Allen Schmidt Sr.
dtml-in throw a weird error. The patch works fine but since it sounds like no one who maintains core Zope uses DTML, that bug probably won't get really fixed. There is an outstanding ticket open on it. Those are the things I have found so far. We are on 2.7.5 and now that those issue

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 12. November 2006 08:47:25 -0800 Hafeliel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I realize that this post might cause a bit of anxiety, and so I apologize for that in advance. However, despite all the blood, sweat, and tears that we've all poured into Zope over the years, Zope has ye

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Hafeliel ]-- | I realize that this post might cause a bit of anxiety, | and so I apologize for that in advance. However, | despite all the blood, sweat, and tears that we've all | poured into Zope over the years, Zope has yet to make | a signifigant m

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Perry Smith
On Nov 12, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Hafeliel wrote:I realize that this post might cause a bit of anxiety,and so I apologize for that in advance.  However,despite all the blood, sweat, and tears that we've allpoured into Zope over the years, Zope has yet to makea signifigant market penetration.I

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Hafeliel
--- Andrew Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm having a hard time working out what your problem > is. > > "If anything, the Zope developers have given us too > much. In an attempt to protect us from ourselves, > they have severly limited what we can d

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Hafeliel ]-- | --- Andrew Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I'm having a hard time working out what your problem | > is. | > | > "If anything, the Zope developers have given us too | > much. In an attempt to protect us from o

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Hafeliel ]-- | | Exactly. The whole point of a tool is to make it easy | to get from point A to point B. PHP presumes that the | code is to be trusted and doesn't stand in the way. | Zope presumes that the code is suspect and is | desperate to keep me from ge

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Hafeliel
k you for your input. Does anyone else in the community have an opinion? Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com _____

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Andrew Milton
hods. | > | > This is *well* documented. | | Thank you for your input. Does anyone else in the | community have an opinion? Sorry, I'm the designated troll hitter for today. -- Andrew Milton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zop

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Perry Smith
measuring up.I use the exact same logic.  "I've a smart guy; I've been swinging in the wind forever; If I can't make it work, its the tools fault."But, that logic is simply wrong.In my case, I have not done web development "forever".  If I had, I would not have as many

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-12 Thread Paul Winkler
h often isn't granular enough for apps that care about things like mod time. If you want something else, CMF has examples of doing the DublinCore date stuff. IIRC Philip's book has examples of doing dublin core in the zope 3 style. Happy to prove this particular po

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
odified time I bet you are getting the last modified date from the image. The image has attributes inside of it. There is no code inside Zope that would look at file or image data to read modification date from it. The method is bobobase_modification_time for simple Zope Images, and o

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Raphael Pesche
u for your input. Does anyone else in the community have an opinion? Yes (sort of...). First of all I must say I have almost no developer experience under zope 2 (only did one or 2 products for Plone) and no experience at all under zope 3. I followed this thread so far with interest though

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Chris Withers
you take a good long hard look at Zope 3, read the 2 books, and then come back... Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Bengtsson
I walk away frustrated and angry. Not a good thing. [5] I have a neat idea for a Zope product so I start coding it up. I find some bits and pieces on the web and try installing them, only to find that parts of my product have a name collision with parts of their product. Products aren&#

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Andrew Milton
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Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
.php?term=numpty > > Try doing a bit more digging before wasting your time writing this rubbish. > > I suggest you take a good long hard look at Zope 3, read the 2 books, > and then come back... yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new followe

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Perry Smith
/define.php?term=numptyTry doing a bit more digging before wasting your time writing this rubbish.I suggest you take a good long hard look at Zope 3, read the 2 books,and then come back... yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of newfollowers to zope.Sure, the man might be mistaken

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
o http://zopereplacement.wikidot.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=numpty Try doing a bit more digging before wasting your time writing this rubbish. I suggest you take a good long hard look at Zope 3, read the 2 books, and then come back... yeah, I c

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread michael nt milne
"yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of newfollowers to zope." Quite right. It's an ignorant attitude and one that itself deserves the label that it is prescribing. It's been prevalent for a long time on this list. The whole attitude here is one of sn

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Hafeliel wrote: If you could, please take a moment to surf on over to http://zopereplacement.wikidot.com/ to understand the design choices made in zope, one could summarize its evolution as: - a genuinely great idea that allowed to publish python objects on the web in a completely

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Garito
Peter Bengtsson escribió: I walk away frustrated and angry. Not a good thing. [5] I have a neat idea for a Zope product so I start coding it up. I find some bits and pieces on the web and try installing them, only to find that parts of my product have a name collision with parts of their

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Chris Withers
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new followers to zope. This guy doesn't want Zope, he wants something lighter like Django or Pylons. He might find what he's looking for in Zope 3... I am sure that treating him like dirt

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ michael nt milne ]-- | "yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new | followers to zope." | | Quite right. It's an ignorant attitude and one that itself deserves the label | that it is prescribing. It's been prevalent for

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Chris Withers
Andrew Milton wrote: +---[ michael nt milne ]-- | "yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new | followers to zope." Oh, he's still alive, how unfortunate... Thanks, Andrew, for helping him avoid my procmail rule :-( | whole a

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread michael nt milne
The Wiki doesn't completely slag off Zope. There are sections which talk about how powerful it is etc. This guy seems to be genuinely trying to get his head round Zope and it is a very steep learning curve. Ok, he should be more advanced in the subject than he is due to his experience bu

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread michael nt milne
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominemOn 11/13/06, Chris Withers < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Andrew Milton wrote:> +---[ michael nt milne ]-- > | "yeah, I can see how this kind of attitude draws lots and lots of new> | followers to zope."

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
You should post only if you have something to say. You did not and you can't comment on the content of the wiki. Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings that the Zope list gets? Because people use Plone and not Zope. Many Plone users identify Plone with

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread michael nt milne
authority that many people on this list have with regard to Zope it doesn't mean I can't comment. By the way there's lots of people who are bored of the attitude of certain developers towards answering queries on lists. And if those developers then decide not to post then maybe it i

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
7;t start a new thread for every reply. Learn to use your mail application properly. -aj pgp8FWv3stqh6.pgp Description: PGP signature _______ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding!

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread michael nt milne
to the topic and the Zope list. If a separate thread is being started it's nothing to do with me.On 11/13/06, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --On 13. November 2006 16:43:01 + michael nt milne<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> "You should post only if you have something t

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Andreas Jung
me out anyway? Please put the rule back in place...:-) I'm using Gmail and simply replying to the topic and the Zope list. If a separate thread is being started it's nothing to do with me. Sometimes we need some entertainment. You're back on the blacklist :-) -aj pgp99TjH

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread michael nt milne
gt; your mail application properly.">> So did you. I thought you had filtered me out anyway? Please put the rule> back in place...:-) >> I'm using Gmail and simply replying to the topic and the Zope list. If a> separate thread is being started it's nothing to

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-13 Thread Ricardo L. A. Banffy
The problem is the original poster (Hafeliel) did not make a credible effort to learn Zope in his "years of experience" with the tool (as taking more than two years not to figure out bobobase_modification_time makes painfully clear) before complaining about it with a public si

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-14 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
s like dirt, Dario. Rather than spending time > helping to document Zope, he's gone off and built a wiki slating it. > Thanks, but no thanks... hm... ok, point taken. However: he is not treating us like dirt. Not all zope-users have the historical baggage where zope gets treated like a s

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-14 Thread robert rottermann
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Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-14 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 14. November 2006 09:35:18 +0100 Dario Lopez-Kästen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If he publishes a wiki with some misconceptions, so what? Will it have more impact than all the other sites that don't grok zope and therefore dismisses it? No, probably not. The wiki is full

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-14 Thread michael nt milne
just that your mail triggered the whole thing. I apologizefor making you the target (and for feeding some trolls :).Chris Withers said the following on 11/13/2006 04:38 PM: >> Well, he's treating us like dirt, Dario. Rather than spending time> helping to document Zope, he's gone o

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-14 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
sorts :-) /dario -- -- --- Dario Lopez-Kästen, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley ___ Z

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-14 Thread Philip Kilner
Michael, michael nt milne wrote: > Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings > that the Zope list gets? Yes. because it is a more mature and > constructive support environment which actually helps promote the product. > Bollocks. :-) -- Regards,

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-15 Thread Chris Withers
a few people will let him know ;-) Will it have more impact than all the other sites that don't grok zope and therefore dismisses it? No, probably not. Yeah, but they got their fair share of trouble too... But us going on like "you obviously don't get it, do you? In fact, you dont

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-15 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
not nice and we behave like them if we do? :-) >> either: instead of getting an enlightened zope user, we get yet another >> "zope sucks"-person with a bunch of misconceptions about zope out in the >> wild. > > Some people can't be helped... well, we don't need

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-15 Thread Hafeliel
My thanks to everyone who took the time to reply. Here's what I'm hearing: [1] Many of you agree that the Zope Book is woefully incomplete. Paul, for example, was kind enough to point out that the Image class is a descendent of the Persistent class. I opened my Zope Book back up to

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-15 Thread Andreas Jung
--On 15. November 2006 07:35:48 -0800 Hafeliel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My thanks to everyone who took the time to reply. Here's what I'm hearing: [1] Many of you agree that the Zope Book is woefully incomplete. Paul, for example, was kind enough to point out that the

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-15 Thread michael nt milne
Philip Kilner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael,michael nt milne wrote:> Is there a reason that the Plone list gets 3 times the level of postings> that the Zope list gets? Yes. because it is a more mature and> constructive support environment which actually helps promote the pro

Re: [Zope] Zope Alternative

2006-11-15 Thread Paul Winkler
On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 07:35:48AM -0800, Hafeliel wrote: > My thanks to everyone who took the time to reply. > > Here's what I'm hearing: > > [1] Many of you agree that the Zope Book is woefully > incomplete. Paul, for example, was kind enough to > poin

[Zope] New to zope

2006-11-17 Thread Philippe Fremy
Hi, I am new to Zope and I plan to develop a small web site. I am developing at the moment on windows although the final site will go under Linux. I am almost finished reading the zope book. First thing, it was difficult to download Zope. The website lists two versions of zope 2.9.x

[Zope] Link download zope ?

2006-11-19 Thread Luc Van Tien
My server is under Sun Solaris 10 sparc. I want to install Zope version 2 newest.(version binary not source code ). Anyone show me link to download. PS : when i install source code zope 2 on sun solaris,always found bugs. But when i install it on redhat ,its works fine

[Zope] Zope/Cache/Memory

2006-12-06 Thread kevin7kal
zope eventually crashes with an out of memory error. There are 4GB of ram on the server. The same issue arises when I catalog the objects. I am trying maintain as much speed as possible, so I do not want to catalog until the end of the import. Is there a way to programmatically clear the cache

[Zope] zope sql_delimiter windows

2006-12-23 Thread garry saddington
I have a Zope application that runs perfectly on Linux. However, my target audience is likely to use Windows so I am trying to port my app. to that platform. Whenever I use a multiple insert Zsql method that includes sql_delimiter, python.exe crashes. eg. insert into attendance (absent

[Zope] zope document management

2006-12-30 Thread pol
Hi all, I would like to share my user view about zope, I would like zope to strive to embody into Data.fs the best trimmed down objects as possible, leaving on the file system most of the content. Text files and pictures should be accessible by external editors, mail should be accessible by

[Zope] Zope Specific Example

2007-01-12 Thread Meitham Jamaa
Hi, I am trying to give a specific example of Zope server to demonstrate the power of Zope access control. I need a site that has lots of roles and permissions. I had a look at the Zope Powered sites in the http://www.zope.org/Resources/ZopePowered/ page but it does not really say much about the

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