[NOTE: Not intended to flame this poster, or anyone else for that
matter.  Just stopping this before it starts again.]

This has nothing to do with responsibility, legality, etc.  The original
post requested information about IDS active/intrusive response.  In
response, several of us outlined products with these types of
capabilities, as well as outlining some of the reasoning behind the
support (or lack thereof )for active and/or intrusive response.  Period.

No one cares who we all *think* should be held responsible.  We all
*know* who should be held responsible, but it is irrelevant to this
discussion.

Please take these arguments offline.

Many thanks,

Keith



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I see your point.  However, that is like saying the innocent is not
innocent
until proven guilty.  Do we not have to abide by our constitution when
it
comes to these matters as well?

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From: Royer, Cedric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: IDS that retaliates.


Is a network which doesn't protect itself to be a platform for for
example
DDoS not at fault?  We all know the solutions exist.
I think it is lack of taking responsibility.

C�dric

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